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01-03-2008 , 01:27 AM
4/8 @ Commerce.

Reads:
UTG is tight preflop and so so post flop. He overplays marg hands
MP is fair but he also overplays hands at times.

Hand: UTG Limps, UTG1 calls, MP calls, Hero is HJ with K K and raises, BTn calls, BB calls, limpers all call. 6 ways

(11 Sbs) Flop comes 9 T 4 BB checks, UTG bets, folds to MP who calls, Hero raises, BTN calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls. 4 ways

(9.5 BBs) Turn comes the J UTG bets, MP raises, Hero calls, BTn folds, UTG calls. 3 ways

(15.5 BBs) Rivers comes the 9 UTG checks, MP bets, Hero calls, UTG calls. (18.5 BBs)

Anything different to do here?
Q- If it had been checked through to me on this river bet or call?
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01-03-2008 , 04:06 AM
I would probably bet the river if checked to. We just pulled ahead of JT. I see no other way to play here, nh.

Buzz
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01-03-2008 , 11:59 AM
Kind of boring and standard I guess, but just a checkup.
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01-03-2008 , 12:01 PM
I think you can bet the river for value if checked to.

To me the interesting part of this hand is the turn. With a bet and a raise in front of you, the button still to act, and possibly further raises from utg and mp, on this draw heavy board I could fold depending on my reads.You maybe drawing slim to a split pot, or you may be still ahead. I would probably play it the same as you, unless I suspected a 3 bet from button or utg.
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01-03-2008 , 12:41 PM
Agree with you Tugg.

With my reads on those two in the hand that I mentioned, I was calling down. Q's are outs for me but not all clean and a Q would give me the 2nd nut str8. I called down getting like 16:1 or so in a big pot where my hand might be good. And the winner is???
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01-03-2008 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Frond
Agree with you Tugg.

With my reads on those two in the hand that I mentioned, I was calling down. Q's are outs for me but not all clean and a Q would give me the 2nd nut str8. I called down getting like 16:1 or so in a big pot where my hand might be good. And the winner is???
how are you getting 16:1 on the turn when you have to call two BB cold?

the turn is a lot closer than people think
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01-03-2008 , 12:50 PM
Looks fine to me.

I think I check the river if checked to...but I don't value bet enough : )
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01-03-2008 , 01:00 PM
Whoops, River I was referring to getting those odds. Turn is an ugly card 4 sure and close, I opted to call with these two. With different players I could fold a lot easier here.

Plus it is Commerce
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01-03-2008 , 03:28 PM
This is fine. Folding turn is also fine.
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01-04-2008 , 04:02 PM
Pretty much standard.

Could easily ditch the turn as you have 4 clean outs (maybe), but you have to call one on the river after you stuck in two cold on the turn.

If check to on riv easy value bet as you just counterfitted JT.

NH sir!
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