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Originally Posted by DonkeyOnTilt
News flash, 9 high doesn't hit a lot. I'd rather take control and knock those people out to potentially win unimproved.
And I'd rather be dealt aces every hand than the garbage I normally get. In a typical live 5/10 loose passive game, you're just not going to be successful.
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Just because you raise pre doesn't mean you need to put in another chip. You could potentially see 4 cards for that 1 small bet.
And you could potentially flop a straight flush. You're not really making a good argument for raising in these game conditions. Also, if most flops are only going for at most one bet anyway, you'll probably see the turn for the same price as raising preflop. And sometimes, you'll even get to the turn for free in a limped pot.
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9 high is not a good multiway hand.
A random 9-high, sure. But 97s is a great multiway hand.
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Full disclosure, 97s is my favorite hand and I tend to play it like aces.
Full disclosure, I honestly can't tell how serious you are about the argument for raising instead of calling. Because the argument is pretty craptacular.