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Originally Posted by DougL
If you know/like a given game, someone playing a game that you don't like may seem silly. That's my guess about NL players hating the idea of you playing LHE.
The 5/10 guy (who is not a buddy, just a guy I was sitting by on a plane and noticed me reading SSHE on the plane) said a new one for me - "LHE takes the poker out of it. You can't bet enough to put someone to a decision." I asked him, "But surely, even at 5/10 you find villains who will call pot bets on the flop and turn with a gutshot, no? And don't you WANT that?" He said absolutely on both counts. I conceded that river decisions are more difficult in NLHE. The point is, yes, I got the feeling he felt like LHE was "a silly math game".
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Originally Posted by DougL
It might be if your 5/10NL playing buddy is a super strong player, he thinks half stacking with like a 5BI roll it is almost impossible to lose --
This, I think, was the point of my post. If you're a super-strong NL player, why would you ever even CONSIDER buying in for anything less than 100bb? Don't you maximize your edge the more chips you have on the table?
And even more to the point, if he's a strong player, why would he ADVISE someone to buy in as short as 40bb??? I mean 3 limpers and you raise to 10bb on the button with QQ, either there's an A or K on the flop and you have to fold after putting in 25% of your stack, or there ISN'T one and your SPR is already 1 and you have no other play than all in! Isn't the whole point that if you're a better postflop player than the other villains you want as many decisions as possible postflop because you'll make the RIGHT one more often than they will?
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Originally Posted by DougL
If BR weren't an issue, which game would you play?
This question really made me think. The short answer, after giving it due thought, is I believe I would still play LHE for the simple reason that it's far more fun and a far better fit for my skillset (I'm much better at math than I am at reading people and hiding my emotions). The only reason I'd even CONSIDER going back to NL is the possibility of actually making money at it, but I make a six-figure salary so I don't need the $8 to $10 per hour supplement to my income. I'd rather play and have fun than play and fold for 6 hours.
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Originally Posted by DougL
If you prefer LHE, maybe work on your replies.
Pointless, as I'm sure you know better than I do. Trying to tell an NL player that LHE is real poker is like trying to get a republican to agree with a democrat.
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
The response is that if you're playing comparable stakes (in terms of $/hour or $/100 potential win rate), your swings are going to be far worse in FL because your edge relative to risk is so much lower. Playing $0.50/$1 NL is likely far less swingy than, like $3/$6 FL.
Perhaps I'm just paranoid, but it makes me nervous when people make blanket statements like this because it leaves out consideration for one thing: MISTAKES. A mistake in an LHE hand costs you no more than a big bet or two in most cases. In NL, a mistake can EASILY cost you a whole stack. Factor that into the overall variance and tell me if you still think, for example, $1/$2NL is less swingy than $4/$8LHE.
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