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10-21-2009 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by threeducks
I then know he has 66 ... I felt like an idoit for putting in that last raise.
Why? Because you flopped top set and took a bad beat? After the turn came out, barring the miracle T on the river, you were destined to lose 7 BB, either by calling down the turn 6-bet or by playing as you did.

"If you're not winning or losing a ton of money with your sets, you're doing something wrong." (That's a quote from someone famous but I can't find it to attribute.)

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Originally Posted by threeducks
Quads are so rare.
Exactly. That's why you re-raise it, because 99 times out of 100 it's exactly someone with 65 being an idiot and he's the one rightly thinking he shouldn't have made the last raise.
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10-21-2009 , 02:37 PM
Thanks

I was having emotional issues that I was working though at that time - reading Tommy's book helped for a bit but I think that I still tilt.

Now my tilt response is to become a tight nit.

This was an example of where I do sometimes raise the river w/o the nuts but as stated elsewhere it is normally 1 raise and then call w/o the nuts.
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10-21-2009 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
"If you're not winning or losing a ton of money with your sets, you're doing something wrong." (That's a quote from someone famous but I can't find it to attribute.)
Lee Jones, imo.
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10-21-2009 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Lee Jones, imo.
I hit one set in my last session and I won a tiny pot.

Hero BTN with 7 7

the flop was something like

(4sb) 4 7 3 (5 players).

checked to me and I bet. Everyone folded. I wonder why?

Could be I was being a tight ass nit?
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10-21-2009 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by threeducks
I hit one set in my last session and I won a tiny pot.

Hero BTN with 7 7

the flop was something like

(4sb) 4 7 3 (5 players).

checked to me and I bet. Everyone folded. I wonder why?

Could be I was being a tight ass nit?
They all folded because no one flopped anything. No one had a 7. No one had a 4. No one had a 3. No one had a club draw. No one had a straight draw. It happens.

Our lucky days are days where we flop top set and everyone else flops huge and our hand holds up and we drag a monster pot. And our draws come in during the big pots.

Our unlucky days are days where we flop top set and no one has anything else worth continuing past the flop. Or our draws only come in HU in small pots and the villain doesn't even bother calling the river with their second pair.

Thems the breaks; so long as you played the hand find you can't sweat stuff like this.

GleadingJJ7flopswithJ7andgetting3callersG
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10-21-2009 , 03:42 PM
I understand that no one had anything. I was willing to play my set hard.

But, I did not lose to a flush so I made 2 big bets and am happy there.

I could have bluffed at this but if I did not have 2 sevens then maybe someone else would.

Never know.
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10-21-2009 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by threeducks
I hit one set in my last session and I won a tiny pot.
It happens. Whatever you do, don't flip your sevens over and lament how bad you're running. Just muck quietly like you had 62o and stole the pot with a bluff.

Getting a reputation as a tight-ass nit usually comes as a result of a combination of playing tight (which you should do) and unnecessarily showing down good hands (which you shouldn't). QTo spikes a Q on the river to beat your JJ? Muck it, say, "nice hand," and let him think you were bluffing with A-high all along. Selectively show your "bad" hands to give the impression you're always chasing runner-runner draws. Flop middle pair, call one bet, and miraculously make the runner-runner 8-high straight? Turn that over even if nobody calls your river bet.

Make sure your opponents remember the time you had 72o and rivered two pair. They won't remember that you were the BB and they let the flop check through, so all they'll remember is you rolling 72o at showdown.
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10-21-2009 , 04:55 PM
I don't get it. You say everyone sees you as a tight ass and folds when you got it, but then in big multiway pots everyone chases to the river and sucks out on you with k5o for 2pr vs your AA? Do you see how these statements don't add up?
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10-21-2009 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by steamypile
I don't get it. You say everyone sees you as a tight ass and folds when you got it, but then in big multiway pots everyone chases to the river and sucks out on you with k5o for 2pr vs your AA? Do you see how these statements don't add up?
Obviously they think I am a loose player and I said *maybe* b/c I was playing like a tight ass nit at that time (dig at my playing style).

I guess they folded because they did not have anything - if they have any pair, any draw or even Ace high they are calling - K7 and 56 would have giving me lots of action as would have a flush draw.

I was replying to the statement that if you do not win or lose a big pot you played your set wrong -

exception ...

they all fold on the flop. Get it?
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10-21-2009 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
It happens. Whatever you do, don't flip your sevens over and lament how bad you're running. Just muck quietly like you had 62o and stole the pot with a bluff.

Getting a reputation as a tight-ass nit usually comes as a result of a combination of playing tight (which you should do) and unnecessarily showing down good hands (which you shouldn't). QTo spikes a Q on the river to beat your JJ? Muck it, say, "nice hand," and let him think you were bluffing with A-high all along. Selectively show your "bad" hands to give the impression you're always chasing runner-runner draws. Flop middle pair, call one bet, and miraculously make the runner-runner 8-high straight? Turn that over even if nobody calls your river bet.

Make sure your opponents remember the time you had 72o and rivered two pair. They won't remember that you were the BB and they let the flop check through, so all they'll remember is you rolling 72o at showdown.
God no - they did not see my 7's and I could have been betting a flush draw as far as they know...

Thanks
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