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01-07-2019 , 10:53 AM

mongidig

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Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,657

The CO is an unknown younger kid seems like he knows what he is doing. The button is a bad lag.

CO opens, Button just calls, I call in bb with As9d

AdTc5c...I check, CO bets, Button raises, I 3 bet, CO calls, button calls.

AdTc5c5s...What's the play?

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01-08-2019 , 12:57 AM

cooleye

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Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 4

Betting the turn.
Leaning heavily towards bet/fold to the CO and bet/call to the BU.
Villain in the CO who "seems to know what they are doing" will probably widen your 3 bet range because you 3 bet a "bad" LAG. This puts plenty of Aces we beat in his range, especially his opening-from-CO-range.
I think that its worth the bet, even though there's a good chance we are chopping, but am curious what others have to say...

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01-08-2019 , 03:13 AM

chillrob

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,871

Seems like too much action on the flop to me. What are you hoping to accomplish? You don't really want CO folding two outers. Unless you would play a draw this way, because you might be able to win without getting there, and need to balance.

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01-08-2019 , 12:38 PM

mongidig

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Originally Posted by chillrob

I am torn between 3 betting and calling flop. At the time I felt like I had the button crushed since he is agro but didn't 3 bet pre flop and could have all kinds of worse hands and draws. I also fear a turn check by him. The three did feel a little too much at the time but I think it's defensible.

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01-08-2019 , 12:41 PM

mongidig

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Originally Posted by cooleye

At first I thought easy turn bet.

The fact that there is a decent probability that I am now fighting for only half the pot makes betting the turn a little less mandatory.

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01-08-2019 , 01:51 PM

cooleye

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Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 4

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Originally Posted by chillrob

The description of BU as "bad lag" makes me want to 3 bet the flop. OTF, our kicker still looks pretty good and I'm including gutshot/flush draw combos for both villains. Bad lag could be 3 betting these holdings and CO opened, so could easily by continuing OTF w/ an Ace we beat, as well as hands like KcJc/QcJc.

OTT, I'm more worried about the CO, but we're not necessarily fighting for half the pot. Neither draws got there, and I don't want to give a free card. This isn't a great spot, but I still want to bet.

Although, tbh, most of my villains are bad loose/passive and I don't deal with bad lag too often...

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01-08-2019 , 02:09 PM

chillrob

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I don't mean that I don't like my hand on the flop. Your hand is not super strong, but I don't want to push the opener off his hands that are drawing close to dead.

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01-08-2019 , 03:03 PM

mongidig

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Originally Posted by chillrob

I don't mean that I don't like my hand on the flop. Your hand is not super strong, but I don't want to push the opener off his hands that are drawing close to dead.

I think he has enough 4 and 5 outer in his range that we wouldn't mind him folding in what is becoming a biggish pot.

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01-20-2019 , 01:08 AM

monikrazy

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Ehh, 3 bets on the flop feels meh, i think i prefer a flat. As played probably xc.

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