8 handed 4/8 half kill 5bet cap (kill player pays 6 and hand plays 6/12 if player wins holding leg-up or kill button) this hand is playing 8 players Hero does not have the Leg-Up

Preflop
UTG LP calls, UTG+1 folds, LJ TAG calls, HJ LNeutral calls, CO folds, BTN LP calls, SB LAG raises, Hero has JhJc and 3!, all call to the SB who 4!, Hero caps, all call

Flop Q,8,6 two clubs - Pot is 28.5sb after rake and promo drop rake is capped
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, LJ folds, HJ calls, BTN folds, SB calls

Turn 4 bringing a spade flush draw - Pot is 18.25BB
SB checks, Hero bets, all call

River Ks - Pot is 22.25BB
SB checks, Hero ???

Bet or check/call. This is the one of the worst river cards I can think of. I really have a hard time in these big pot multiway rivers knowing when value betting is best with some of these weaker holdings OOP. Obviously I'm at the low end of my capping range and the overall strength of the hand on the river is pretty low.

I’d check. You want to show this down cheaply as possible with two overs and lots of opponents.

I just call the flop donk. The pot is huge so it's unlikely you would be able to protect your hand those times it is good. It's scary that the SB who has an uncapped range is donking into your cap and several other players.

As played check and maybe call depending on who bets. I probably wouldn't over call.

You can't win every pot.

A little context for you. The SB is like 80-90% in every hand and his raising range is probably 40-50% in multi way pots. Hes trying to increase the size of every pot he can. I've already seen him 4! A8o OOP. He's just trying to make big pots.

I agree. I haven't said whether I win or lose this pot and honestly isn't why I brought up the hand. It was a spot last night that I wasn't sure of the correct action.

That being said...Check or bet? Obviously we aren't bluffing anyone off a better hand. However, is a value bet the right move or should we just check/call? River play is probably the weakest part of my game. So I'm asking questions...

Check and go to showdown against anyone capable of bluffing, unless the sb calls.

Now you tell me! I'd still just call the flop. If he is just as nutty with the bets on the turn I will raise a blank.

I didn’t read that. I guess just get to showdown but against such a special player there’s really nothing we can tell you. Chances are if anyone is paying attention they won’t try to bluff the guy. Otoh you can’t count on idiots to be paying attention.

You guys came to the same conclusion I did. It's a check/call. And that is what I did. It ended up getting checked through and I did get to scoop the pot. I just find these situations difficult. I'm honestly not sure in these spots. And I know there probably isn't a really solid answer either way.

Remember you need a stronger hand to bet into multiple players than you do to bet into one. So you should be much less inclined to go for thin value on multiway rivers (or any street for that matter). It is easy to focus on the guy that bet into you, but remember you also need to beat everyone else with a hand, and they're not bluffing by calling.

This hand is difficult because you have a marginal hand in a multiway pot. You aren't sure if you're ahead and missing a bet or behind and betting with almost no equity. That's just the name of the game here.