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11-23-2017 , 10:03 PM

mongidig

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,654

Fairly tight player opens UTG, 3 players call, I call in BB with Kh7h.

Ks5d5c....you are first to act. Do you donk? Do you check and see? What is your reasoning?

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11-23-2017 , 11:05 PM

DonkeyOnTilt

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,002

I would tend to check/call and look to decide what to do on the turn. This is one of those hard to balance spots. If I were to have a donk range on this flop, it would be with some 5s and the double backdoor no showdown value type bluffs.

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11-26-2017 , 10:41 PM

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,552

mongidig what's your current approach/thought process here?

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11-27-2017 , 07:56 AM

lllusionist

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 17

In the games I play my line here is probably c/r flop unless it's bet/raised, followed by a turn bet folding to a raise unimproved. Guys at my casino are fairly face up and love to slow play so info might not be that useful.

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11-27-2017 , 09:13 AM

Bob148

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 11,972

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Do you check and see?

This is my line. I'd call for one and fold for two.

I think that if you can't call one on this flop, then folding preflop is better. In other words, the postflop value of a hand should typically be built into the preflop strategy. If the postflop value isn't there, then you should probably have folded preflop. The exception to this general rule is the special case of an opponent that opens normal ranges preflop, but misses lots of bluffing value postflop.

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11-30-2017 , 07:59 PM

dead.money

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 298

Lead into field, hope UTG raises and forces field to cold call two bets. Why check call here? I can see check raising or check folding. If you think you have the best hand you should be betting and if you think you're King is beat you should be folding. I can see check raising or check folding.

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11-30-2017 , 10:44 PM

jdr0317

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I'd just check and call. And hope the bettor checks at some point.

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12-08-2017 , 05:54 PM

samdash

adept

Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,196

Do we actually have a donking range here? Not suggesting C/Ring this hand, but its worth mentioning we're in the perfect spot relative to PFR to C/R most of the field.

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12-09-2017 , 11:05 AM

mongidig

Pooh-Bah

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Originally Posted by samdash

Do we actually have a donking range here? Not suggesting C/Ring this hand, but its worth mentioning we're in the perfect spot relative to PFR to C/R most of the field.

This is a good point.

I check here.

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12-14-2017 , 04:45 AM

#10

HUMBLE.

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2,010

You need people thinking that they can cbet here, or call a cbet with a pocket pair or Ace hi or do something crazy once in awhile. I don't think leading accomplishes this.

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