How to adjust to the game?
11-12-2017
, 08:48 AM
Callipygian and Bob148: Just going to keep it brief here since this thread has given me so much to chew on already that going post by post will just take too much time. Callip, I'll for sure stick to playing tight. You and Arron have helped me get the big picture for why thats the better approach. And Bob, thanks for some of the details. When it's time to start digging into ranges, I'll have your post as more intel to reference. Thanks to you both
Aaron, you and I could go on for hours. If you want to head to the strip end of Jan, it would be cool to get a beer.
Winning Short Handed has mostly been shelved and you're right about there being so few opportunities to incorporate that information into my play. Mostly my games are full ring, but sometimes players will be transitory and it can fall down to 6 players or less, but its pretty rare. Still, SSHE does have suggestions for tight games (3-5 players to the flop), and considering how much everyone has tried to drive the point home about sticking with ABC and not being experimental, and your mentioning of sticking to one philosophy, I'll stick with SSHE's tables.
You understood my golf swing analogy. Too much to think about at one time.
In regards to the crossroads, it's really a combination of both. This is meant as a hobby for me and I don't intend to try to go pro. I'm going to incorporate the forums into my studies more. I do take notes on my sessions already... but yeah, NLHE is a factor, and IT is truly the turning point. It appears to be far more popular, so I want to learn it. Omaha being apparently the next up and coming game will be something I explore as well. Even Seven Card Stud sounds fun.
I will keep learning and playing until it gets dull, or I lose too much damn money!
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While I've never read "Winning Short Handed" I suspect the gap between that and SSHE is pretty large, making this type of shift very bad for you. You're probably going to end up with a very bipolar game.
From the outside and just speculating, I doubt that you actually have many opportunities for a "true" shorthanded game.
When you say things like this, I continue to doubt that you know your ABCs.
I don't play golf, but to stab at your golf swing analogy, you're probably thinking so much that you don't have a smooth swing. You're all tense with so many things you're trying to think about as you're swinging that nothing is flowing properly. You might be able to say all the right things about your swing ("head down", "watch your shoulder rotation", or whatever). But you can't actually execute any of because no part of it is natural.
You're kind of at a crossroads:
1) If you really want to get good at poker, you need to completely change what you're doing. What you're doing to yourself isn't going to take you where you want to go. You're going to need to focus in more tightly on limit for a while and really hone those basics. You'll need to spend more time preparing for playing, but that means reading fewer books and spending more time going into depth in them. It means increasing your reading and posting, including offering up strategic thoughts of your own for public scrutiny. You're going to take notes on your own sessions and you're going to study those hands away from the table by analyzing the heck out of them. It means making the game more like work and less like entertainment.
2) If you want to enjoy poker, keep on the path you're on. You're still learning things, and that's great. You're not getting the laser-like precision on all of the concepts, but that's okay. Switch around with no limit and omaha or whatever and just enjoy the experience of playing the game because the game is fun to play. You've got enough knowledge to be able to play better than most of your opponents, so it's just a matter of putting in the time at the table and in your more casual reading of books.
I honestly recommend the second path. I think your #1 priority is to enjoy the game. Poker is much less fun if you're really trying to get good at it. Hang around the forums and learn stuff as you go. Read whatever you want to read and think about whatever you want to think about. If you're trying to improve, you're likely to improve. It's a slower path, but it won't ruin the game for you.
From the outside and just speculating, I doubt that you actually have many opportunities for a "true" shorthanded game.
When you say things like this, I continue to doubt that you know your ABCs.
I don't play golf, but to stab at your golf swing analogy, you're probably thinking so much that you don't have a smooth swing. You're all tense with so many things you're trying to think about as you're swinging that nothing is flowing properly. You might be able to say all the right things about your swing ("head down", "watch your shoulder rotation", or whatever). But you can't actually execute any of because no part of it is natural.
You're kind of at a crossroads:
1) If you really want to get good at poker, you need to completely change what you're doing. What you're doing to yourself isn't going to take you where you want to go. You're going to need to focus in more tightly on limit for a while and really hone those basics. You'll need to spend more time preparing for playing, but that means reading fewer books and spending more time going into depth in them. It means increasing your reading and posting, including offering up strategic thoughts of your own for public scrutiny. You're going to take notes on your own sessions and you're going to study those hands away from the table by analyzing the heck out of them. It means making the game more like work and less like entertainment.
2) If you want to enjoy poker, keep on the path you're on. You're still learning things, and that's great. You're not getting the laser-like precision on all of the concepts, but that's okay. Switch around with no limit and omaha or whatever and just enjoy the experience of playing the game because the game is fun to play. You've got enough knowledge to be able to play better than most of your opponents, so it's just a matter of putting in the time at the table and in your more casual reading of books.
I honestly recommend the second path. I think your #1 priority is to enjoy the game. Poker is much less fun if you're really trying to get good at it. Hang around the forums and learn stuff as you go. Read whatever you want to read and think about whatever you want to think about. If you're trying to improve, you're likely to improve. It's a slower path, but it won't ruin the game for you.
Winning Short Handed has mostly been shelved and you're right about there being so few opportunities to incorporate that information into my play. Mostly my games are full ring, but sometimes players will be transitory and it can fall down to 6 players or less, but its pretty rare. Still, SSHE does have suggestions for tight games (3-5 players to the flop), and considering how much everyone has tried to drive the point home about sticking with ABC and not being experimental, and your mentioning of sticking to one philosophy, I'll stick with SSHE's tables.
You understood my golf swing analogy. Too much to think about at one time.
In regards to the crossroads, it's really a combination of both. This is meant as a hobby for me and I don't intend to try to go pro. I'm going to incorporate the forums into my studies more. I do take notes on my sessions already... but yeah, NLHE is a factor, and IT is truly the turning point. It appears to be far more popular, so I want to learn it. Omaha being apparently the next up and coming game will be something I explore as well. Even Seven Card Stud sounds fun.
I will keep learning and playing until it gets dull, or I lose too much damn money!
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, 12:53 PM
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