Reads on MP and BTN are pretty strong. MP is a loose passive drooler and BTN is a really bad lag. CO I know less about, but he seems uncreative and generally not that much of a tough spot.

Thoughts on this whole hand? I think at least one street is debatable.


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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with T T
1 fold, MP calls, CO raises, BTN 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls

Flop: (12.5 SB) Q 4 T (4 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, CO raises, BTN 3-bets, Hero caps!, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (14.25 BB) 2 (4 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls

River: (18.25 BB) A (4 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, CO calls, BTN folds, Hero calls

grunch

usually when i want more action on a flop where i can give a free card, i'd just call that 3bet on the flop, and go for a checkraise on the turn. that or bet out expecting to get raised depending on what the turn brings, so i can 3bet it.
with trips, this is what i'd try to do given the flop action.
edit: but theres a straight draw out there hmmmmmmm cap is good then?

turn
i lead the street after if i've capped the street before.

river
i like the call...as the turn brought a blank and action kinda just stopped..maybe one of them was on the straight draw that made it on the river.

I'd still cap PF for value here... your hand is still very strong against an unknown and a bad LAG 3betting him... and a drooler is going to call 3 more... so just jam it.

I don't think the river is very close... MP will have KJ here so often, even with the overlay from CO I just vomit and call.

Cap it preflop. It's nice to see where CO is at (does he cap or not?) but thats not sufficient reason to pass up the value. The flop and turn are standard jams no matter what the preflop action was. I'm not going to get fancy out of position and risk missing bets.
MP's action is very much consistent with KJ, but I'd call just in case he decided that, after all that action, his two pair is good. They do that sometimes. No way I fold a set here for 23:1 closing the action.

grunch
Please cap preflop.
On the river, against a loose passive like this, I think his range is almost entirely made up of AT (too afraid to raise SPTK, but never folding it) and KJ (all I have is a draw!).
I'm heavily discounting AQ because:
- He did not raise preflop
- He did not raise on the flop with TPTK
- If he's so passive that the above are true, then he probably still wouldn't raise the river even with top two, especially considering earlier action.

Then we can discount AT a little bit as well. Partly for the same reasons as above (no raise preflop or on the flop, then wtf river?), and also because there is an ace on the board and we hold two of the tens.

So there are 3 combos of AT and 16 combos of KJ.
Throw in some other wtf hands like 44, 22, QQ, AA, A4, A2, AQ, and I think our equity is a little closer but still shy of 50%.

So I would also just call the river against this particular villain.

I think on the flop I would call a 3 bet and go for a check raise or 3 bet on the turn. River is standard play imo. Pre flop could be capped but a call is fine too.

In a 4-way pot we must fastplay this imo.
Especially since the turn bet will not come from our immediate left, so c/r-ing the turn, when it works (i.e. it does not check through), will not often trap the entire field for 2 bets.
On the flop they are already trapped. Cap it now, and if you get lucky, someone might raise the turn also.

what nchz said