Guidelines for Overlimping ax hands - Page 3 - Small Stakes Poker Forum

any of you that play 4/8 regularly,take note and understand that some of these people think that a game where you will have 4-5 people limp in, ESPECIALLY if someone limps early! BUUUT fold those sames hands to a early raise is RARE!????? lmao...just a glimpse into how out of touch they are with the game they are "advising"?? you on, lmao. You guys always did make me laugh.

4-5 limpers?
I thought you said they limp 95%?

Which is it, 50% or 95%?

Edit: I guess you said there are 2-3 players per table that play like this, not the whole table. Only 2 or 3 players playing this way shouldn't affect how you play up front

Last edited by SetofJacks; 04-10-2017 at 01:40 PM.

04-10-2017 , 01:34 PM

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King Spew

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I would assume 4-5 people to the flop. Of those, 95% are limpers.

04-10-2017 , 02:28 PM

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dead.money

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King Spew

This is spot on for the three casinos I regularly play. Limp or raise from EP....and you still get 6 to the flop. At one casino I place, it will be 3! or 4! pre....and easily the flop average is 4 players. Nobody folds PF in the games I play. (3/6 and 4/8)

At times the games are as you describe where I play, at times they are tuff, and at times they are like the games I described earlier...depends, but to say they are RARE??? is clearly misguided.

04-10-2017 , 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chillrob

I would prefer they all fold when I have anything except AA. Stealing the blinds is insanely profitable. I'm also happy to play a hand HU vs the BB.

LMAO!!! you guys are killing me! so you want to play heads up????? at a 4/8 with the rake! lol....and you want them all to fold except when you have aces?????? so pick up kings utg raise everyone folds, you collect ur $5 and ur happy? I guess! lmao....

04-10-2017 , 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SetofJacks

Of course it should! if it effects the way the others play! understand the 2-3 people are HORRIBLE, others at table might just be bad, or really bad, lol...with 1-2 competent people.

04-10-2017 , 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob148

Yup. The opposition would have to play very badly to make me want calls.

They do!

04-10-2017 , 02:47 PM

#57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DougL

Why don't you just pretend to look and raise a bunch of hands? J7o will show huge profit stealing the blinds.

LMAO..no you won't! You will pick up some uncontested, get 3bet other times holding an inferior hand and out of position, or you will be heads up with blind and RAKE.

04-10-2017 , 02:55 PM

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"the reality is that an 8/16-20/40 bankroll is wrll within reach of most incomes."

You know the more I read the more respect I lose for some of you...wondering how many of you in here are 20/40 fish. not much diff then the fish I play with just BIGGER bank accounts. "The reality is that an 8/16-20/40 bankroll is well within reach of most incomes"???? If that's not the DUMBEST statement I've ever heard. I know alot of people who could'nt afford to lose $200.00 in a night! You're under the impression that most people would have no prob losing $400-500 in a night!? WOW..lmao!

04-10-2017 , 04:36 PM

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1.5 small bets. 30 times an hour. Equals 22.5 big bet per hour winrate. Yes, when I raise preflop I want them to fold unless I have KK, AA or AKs.

04-10-2017 , 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob148

1.5 small bets. 30 times an hour. Equals 22.5 big bet per hour winrate. Yes, when I raise preflop I want them to fold unless I have KK, AA or AKs.

OMG!!!!!!!!!! just keep getting better and better!!!!!!!! lmao! Yea BOB it works that way...LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-10-2017 , 04:42 PM

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Of course winrates will never be that high because they call, which brings down your ev.

04-10-2017 , 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dead.money

OMG!!!!!!!!!! just keep getting better and better!!!!!!!! lmao! Yea BOB it works that way...LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW ur looser than chillrob, he only wants calls with aces LMAO! and why do you want any calls at any point with AA KK AK?

04-10-2017 , 04:44 PM

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they also RAISE! LMAO!

04-10-2017 , 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob148

Of course winrates will never be that high because they call, which brings down your ev.

Then why post that nonsense in the first place?

04-10-2017 , 04:46 PM

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Specifically because I expect to win more than 1.5 small bets per hand with KK, AA, and AKs.

With any other hand, I expect my winrate to be <1.5 small bets per hand. Thus the best result with any other hand is that everyone folds.

04-10-2017 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dead.money

Then why post that nonsense in the first place?

To show that you don't understand the long term ev of individual hands.

04-10-2017 , 04:48 PM

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you guys are killing me LMAO..just let it go, lol. smh!

04-10-2017 , 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob148

To show that you don't understand the long term ev of individual hands.

Is that what you think you showed???? LMAO!!!!

04-10-2017 , 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dead.money

Is that what you think you showed???? LMAO!!!!

Yes. You think you do better when they give action and I showed why you're wrong.

04-10-2017 , 04:50 PM

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Seems to me that you just made an Idiotic statement that has no bearing on reality, but then that's just my humble opinion

04-10-2017 , 04:51 PM

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If you were right, then winrates would exceed 22.5 big bets per hour, but they don't.

04-10-2017 , 04:53 PM

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No you didn't and YES I think I do better given action when I have an equity advantge, as opposed to occasionally picking up minuscule blinds. or being 3 bet with no equity advantage. AND out of position.

04-10-2017 , 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob148

If you were right, then winrates would exceed 22.5 big bets per hour, but they don't.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!! you just said that those numbers aren't ACTUAL????? now you wanna use SAME numbers to make a point? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! my god BOB are you really serious? You're playing with me right! you planted camera's in my office and I'm on some kinda reality show....right? LMAO!