I'm not sure why you're bothering, Bob. Just pick a stake where you're a loser and tell him you're a loser at that stake. He'll lose respect for you LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! and you can spend your time trying to help people who want help.

The guy obviously has at least one huge misconception about poker and isn't looking for help, he's looking to show he knows more about The Gardens 4-8 than anyone here, which is surely true, except that he describes a game condition that without never seeing this game I feel fairly confident saying never exists.

A9o is not a playable hand, so that ends that question

wow....LMAO!!!!!!! so ur CONFIDENT the games i described doesn't exist? lmao...well I guess ur conifdence means they don't exist..wow how can so many assumingly "smart" people make so many blatantly STUPID remarks?

Calli Ive heard you screaming about how 4/8 is unbeatable for years now. A game that turns into at least 6/12 - 8/16 at times..a game where people open limp 90-95% of THE HANDS THEY ARE DEALT! (was in one last night), hands that regular;y go off 6-8 handed, where they never bet unless they have top pair..where u can put people on sets with certainty, and you think its unbeatable??? well yea if you play as you 20/40 (experts?/fish?) suggest...what was it?? 1.Steal the blinds LMAO!!!! , 2. Raise and chase out the garbage hands and play heads up with RAKE and prob BEtter hand, LMAO!!! O and my fav...PRAY you dont get called when u raise KK LMAO...because ud much rather pick up the $5 in blinds....help??? I'm not asking for it, trying to give it to my fellow 4/8 players...cause most of you are clueless about how to play at 4/8.

I already told you that I'm a lifetime loser at 4/8.

Do I really need to show you why I'd rather limp in and get called 4-5 ways, holding an EQUITY ADVANTAGE..(you know what that is bob?) As opposed to everyone folding and winning $5 ...

Mr Davis what misconception is that? And Thank you about the gardens comment, me knowing more than anyone here about their 4/8..it's that obvious huh LMAO!

and my reply....."I wouldn't doubt it!" lmao...

so if you're a lifetime loser at 4/8, are you REALLY the best person to be taking advice from about 4/8? lmao...I mean if you KNOW you suck at 4/8 then why advise people about it, y not just comment about what you THINK you know, 20/40. Just a thought.

side note**** why do you have a pic of Micheal J fox? at least calli has taste in pics lol.

Welcome back, hustlersux.

I'm going to ask the guy who I actually think is the world's best 4/8 player to chime in...

That's probably going to lead to an appeal to authority fallacy.

At low winrates, the error in a winrate is massive compared to the absolute winrate. For a 0.5 BB/hr winner, n0 is like 1000 hours, so discriminating between 0.5 BB/hr and 0.6 BB/hr will take roughly 25,000 hours.

At high winrates, the error is smaller (discriminating between a 1.0 and 1.2 BB/hr winner would only take about 6,000 hours) but at that high of a win rate it's hard to imagine someone winning 6,000 BB and not moving up.

As a result, the best 4/8 players are likely hypothetical (they play higher but could play 4/8 at a very high level) or running above EV.

On occasion there are people like gobbledygeek who play 2/4 at a high level because of unusual reasons, but even GG moved on. He still says hi to me every time I post in LLSNL though.

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LMAO..yes the hustler does suck, not as bad as normandie or the crystal park...who is hustlersux

as oppossed to asking the worlds WORST (by his own admission) 4/8 player to chime in? LMAO! lifetime loser at 4/8 right calli? how the hell can you be a lifetime loser at 4/8 LMAO!

Stop making fun of me.

Encouraging your opponents to play loose passive is a terrible strategy in 3-6 or 4-8 limit where the rake is a concern. Limping A 10 couldn't be more awful. Playing A10 from early position in these games is questionable but if you have significant edge post flop fine. Still should be raising with it for so many reasons and 3 betting with all playable hands in late position. I hate limping but would recommend hands like AK or AQ suited QQ-AA and some suited Ace hands so that when you hit a flop you have opponents dominated, A 10 rarely makes a powerful hand multiway

LMAO!!!!!!!!! but its soooooo much fun lol.

OK. Let's put a stop to the name calling and drama. People want to disagree about poker ideas, great. The other stuff, not as much.

Thanks

the hand we were talkiing about is A10 suited, and we were talking about SPECIFIC conditions that made limping in early correct, now if you're one of the crew that believes those conditions could never exist...so be it! I'm starting to get bored with this topic...for last time....Raise you're A10 suited in EP, chase everyone out and revel in ur $5. I'll take my changes playing 6 handed with a solid EQUITY ADVANTAGE over field.

Raise A10 .. everyone folds...you win $5.00
Raise A10... BB calls...checks down to river, you win and $1.00
Raise A10 BB calls...calls ur Cbet, folds turn...you win $5.00
(BEst case) - Raise A10 ...BB calls..u bet all streets get called all streets...u win $21.00

Limp A10 ...get 4-5 callers plus blinds...betting $4.00 to win $24.00
(BEST CASE) Limp A10 ...get 4-5 callers plus blinds ...u bet all streets get called by 3 of other 6 players..others fold on turn...you win...$90.00...

obviously other scenarios exist but just a quick glimpse....

90 is a bigger number than 21. He is correct

Being able to tell which number is bigger is why I only bet trifectas

I'm late to the party, so I apologize if this has already been addressed.

This is terrible advice.

A2o-A7o should always be folded in the situation described. Those hands suffer from RIO and have major playability problems. A8o and A9o have the same problems from, but are slightly better.

ATs and AJs are easy raises from any position. They're strong hands that play very well multiway.

I didn't read the scenarios, but I limp along with ATo, fold worse and raise AJo as a default.