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Originally Posted by Ativan
Ohnoes! Another winrate question!!! :O I couldn't find this specific question in the search, however.
What's the currently expected attainable winrate for FLH in HU and shorthanded play (up to 6 max) for stakes 3/6-8/16 (online)?
There was a reg at FTP before black Friday that was 3.5bb/100 at 3/6, 5/10. The games were listed as 6max but there weren't always 6 players at the table--sometimes less. Anyway this grinder was making over 100k/year, consistently, and his graph was a beautiful, smooth line upwards. He played as high as 20/40 but his winrrate was much smaller there. He was crushing 3/6, and 5/10.
many heads up players had winrates that high or higher, and PTR tracked hu play at ring games as ring play/winrates. no one was making 3.5 or higher over big samples in non-hu play. maybe the best ring grinders were making between 1 and 1.5 in their ring play. most of the best players were at least comfortable hu (and therefore sh) and so could increase time spent in profitable spots because they'd increased their game selection. that would skew their PTR winrates though.
the answer to your question will depend somewhat on what sites you are talking about. the usa-facing sites (bovada, carbon) have softer lhe games than the world-facing sites (pokerstars, etc), but no rewards to augment winrate. the world-facing sites have tougher games but do have some rewards.
either way, lhe has declined a ton online. there are way fewer games than before BF.
hu lhe is mostly dead everywhere - i imagine if you bumhunted multiple stakes across multiple sites (as the HU "regs" still do) you could still make 3 or 5/100 if you were playing only fish
6m or fr - anything near 1/100 (pre-rb/bonus/etc) would be really excellent and put you in the top group today
also, i realize you are using bb/100 (big blinds) but we typically measure winrates in BB/100 (big bets), which are double the bb. so that might be affecting your nomenclature (or it might not). my numbers in this post refer to big bets (BB)
who's the FTP player you're thinking of?