So you’re saying the problem is that you didn’t read the post before saying I was wrong?

I'm saying if you think it should be even, you shouldn't start a post with "I feel" like you're a Berkeley High School senior who's taking a final exam in How Does Math Make You Feel 301.

But when you’re correcting someone’s math you don’t feel you should read the problem first?

When you have an even number, and then subtract a bunch of even or symmetrical numbers, i have a feeling that the answer should also be even

I'm not correcting his math, I'm correcting your feelings.

No you’re not, or you would have brought it up in your first post instead of as a way of back pedaling.

To be fair though I agree with you. As long as you don’t concern yourself with the actual math or numbers being discussed, then an odd number wouldn’t appear odd because it is possible to do math and get an odd number.

If we're reading things people didn't post then I accept your apology.

Are you even reading anything before you post on it?

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, okay?

Disagree on math you didn’t bother to read. Back pedal in to pedantic word choice defense. If all else fails just fall back in to a sarcastic apology. Troll on

To validate your feelings and to prove I can read, I went ahead and did the math and now agree that the number as posted isn't odd.

There are 84 combos of TT+ QJ+ KT+ if you hold QT (whether it is suited or not - there is a discrepancy between the OP and what was later posted, Hooked on Phonics worked for me).

Look you don't need to lash out just because someone disrespected your feelings. There are a lot of mean people in this world. Know that I will always be your daddy and you will always be my huggie wuggie bunny bear.

I thought I was your huggie wuggie bunny bear!

There is space in my heart for two huggie wuggy bunny bears. You and your brother are different but I love you both the same amount.

DTxCF, in all seriousness (and to offset my contribution to the derail), note that there isn't a huge difference between 87 and 84 combos. The whole analysis of worrying about strong hands people may have is flawed. Instead, look at the equity of QTs in a multiway pot with peoples' raising ranges beheaded.

I actually don't know how it's going to hold up (and no longer have access to Pokerstove or Equilab or whatever kids these days use), which is why I posted "either more favorable or less unfavorable" or something like it above.

QTs is an open fold if you don't have enough people calling with hands that QTs dominates, which is most games at higher stakes. So it doesn't matter as much if they coldcall TT+ QJ+ KT+ if they also coldcall Q2-QT T5-T9.

Keep trying to steer the focus of the conversation to anything else you can other than the fact that you were commenting on math posts you didn’t bother read.

But is there a difference between 110, where we started, and 84? 3 combos doesn’t matter. Being able to correctly count combos so we can even get to a roughly correct number does

Was your post about math or feelings?

If you had a count in mind, why didn't you post it?

If you didn't think he was applying the math correctly, why didn't you post it?

Could it be that you intended exactly what you wrote - that you FELT it should be different? To a textualist like me, I'll assume you meant what you wrote.

To be clear, I don't condemn that feeling at all. A big part of checking answers is our gut reaction. If he had said that removing QT dropped combos from 556 to 184, a quick gut check would reveal that I feel there are way too many combos to start with and that the differential is too big. I don't know exactly where his math went wrong, but I would steongly suspect the math is wrong. It doesn't pass the sniff test.

110 to 87 passes the sniff test. I didn't count the combos initially, to be honest I would have actually guessed like 130 (10%) but 110 feels right enough. And taking out two cards should reduce it by 20-30%. So 87 passes the sniff test and feels right too.

There's nothing unusual about the number being odd. I think if you took a bunch of random numbers and multiplied paira and then added them, you'd have at least a 25% chance of being odd (I might feel like it should be 50% but odd times odd is odd, odd times even is even, and even times even is even - prior to working it out, I can use my feelings to guide me to the approximate solution of 25-50%).

The real question isn't why I'm commenting on "math" posts. The question is whether you consider your post to be a math post.

yes there absolutely is. And no it doesn’t pass the sniff test. Removing one Q and one T can not result in an odd number of combos when he’s not counting QT. It just can’t. Everything is obviously just reduced by even out or reduced symmetrically

If you multiply a number by 2, I don’t have to know what you did wrong but if it ends with s 7 I’m going to say you probably did that wrong. I didn’t know where he went wrong but I was pretty it couldn’t be odd. Unless the hand changed somewhere else that I had missed since we’d already gone from suites to non

I didn’t do the math for him because I already know how to count combos, and since he’s already gone awry twice I figured it was better he do it

It’s a math post in that if bothered to read what he was asking before you responded, you can pretty easily tell the math was wrong

And just to point out more of your back pedaling

What level of college class teaches you to do sniff tests but not bother to read the numbers? I feel like it was probably covered somewhere before How Does Math Make You Feel 301?

Sure it can - if he includes QJs but not QJo.

Sounds like you and I read exactly the same amount, I just admit it.

Was that before or after it didn’t pass your sniff test?

I don't know if you read badly or write badly but it seems pretty hypocritical of you to accuse me of trolling either way after you deliberately misrepresent my position like this.

And again, to be clear, I think most of your trolling is pretty funny and I'll admit I expected 50% of the time you'd just shoot back with an exact (even) count and 50% of the tine it'd be odd and you'd make a joke about feelings.

Maybe I wrongly assumed your feelings post was a more or less throwaway line, that you had put a lot of effort into it and somehow really offended you, in which case I'm (seriously, non-sarcastically) sorry.

His first count didn’t pass the sniff test. Combos to percent =~
Combos * (8/100). That sexy 8 in his original percent makes it very easy to see he was counting 100+ in a spot he clearly shouldn’t. So I asked to see his math.

His second count didn’t pass a smell test either. I’m sorry I used the word feel or called it a math post, because you’re right, it doesn’t take any math to know that his second number can’t be odd. All it takes is to have actually read his range and to have put in any thought before answering.

I didn’t just respond with ‘84’ because I already know how to count combos and eye ball things quickly. It’s more important for him to figure out how to do it, than it is for me to do it the millionth time. Being able to set up the problem correctly is usually a key factor in being able to solve a math question

And for the record there is still an other mistake in his second calculation besides the combos