LJ opens, I 3 bet AhKs in SB, LJ calls. LJ is a TAG. No detailed reads.

8h5dJd...I bet, he calls

8h5dJdTd...What now?

whats his read on you?

c/c, c/f ui is probably what i would do without reads. if he checks behind turn consider betting a lot of rivers, including diamonds (as a bluff). you should have hands like AdX that you would do this with so the bluff is credible.

Being out of position as a 3bettor with unimproved over cards is not a great spot to be in.

If you play bet/call turn, x/f unimproved... if that is an error then it's not a big error.

If errors of this size are the marginal problem which is causing you to win or lose at this game, then that doesn't sound like a small stakes problem.

LJ in a 6max game is early position. If that's his position then he has a lot of low pairs that call once, Some A-high flushes, KQ, KTs, AQ, maybe delays with AJ, sets. His range wants to call, and it should call most of the time.

If you bet he's getting 4.5:1 to fold and has to call really often to avoid being exploited. it's not easy to call here with 66,77 and no diamond. So even if betting turn is a mistake then it's a small one which will cause some of his better hands to fold.

If you're recognizing this player as someone who is above average in aggression and they play enough to understand what you have when you check (AK/AQ) then you can balance that range with check/raises for value.

Setting aside KQs which is a great draw to bluff with, besides AQo no flush draw, is AKo the weakest hand in your range? It seems like this is a common problem.

This is a spot where I c/c the turn and c/f the river. But I feel like c/f may be best on the turn. Our showdown value is super trashy, we have very dirty outs, and it is tough to think of bluffs for our opponent.

In a vacuum folding over ~25% of the time here lets him bluff any two cards.

Our turn check is pretty face up, so it seems like TAGs are going to bet correctly unless it's balanced with other hands.

What else do you check turn here to balance against AK/AQ no flush draw?

That's what.. 12 combos? So I'd want to check maybe as many as 36 other hands which continue against a bet. other AK/AQ with a diamond is 12, and getting fancy with check/raises I think means I don't have to have 48 combinations check the turn. Trouble is justifying a check with a hand which can value bet.

Checking 88/99 would make sense and add to the turn check range.

It might work if our turn check is: 99-88, AQo+, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AsTd, AcTd.

That's 42 combinations, and our over folding with AK/AQ no draw is discounted by the other AX hands with flush draws.

Oh, and I also agree that bluffing scary rivers after the turn checks through is usually best. So to say that I usually c/c turn and c/f river was not accurate. I do bluff scary rivers when the turn checks through.

i disagree, i dont think anyone ever folds a pair on the turn on this board

boards where people fold low pairs are KQxx, KJxx, QJxx (vs. some people not others), Axx-highcard

c/f turn seems awful. I'd c/c turn and c/c most non diamond, non 9 rivers. AK > AQ, KQ, K9s, and depending how many AXs he has, AK beats or ties ~38% of this range and our c/c on turn is inducing. I don't think it's optimal to allow villain to turn that entire portion into bluffs

Could this be a x/r bluffing hand on the turn or is that FPS?

I think there is too much show down equity to turn AK into a bluff here. Much better used as a bluff catcher than a bluff imo