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01-17-2022 , 08:43 PM
happy 2022, squad!

over/under on total number of posts this thread gets this year?
01-17-2022 , 09:03 PM
142
01-20-2022 , 04:29 PM
Only got 155 for 2021 and now we aren't even a 'real poker' sub-forum. I put the 0/U at 118.
01-21-2022 , 02:18 AM
Glad to do my part. Sad to see the state of 2p2. It was such a huge part of my early poker career.
01-21-2022 , 02:38 AM
i never knew this existed
01-21-2022 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BLJ
Glad to do my part. Sad to see the state of 2p2. It was such a huge part of my early poker career.
I agree!

It's pretty disrespectful to hide this forum away given it's history of great threads and posters. I bet a lot of people think this forum doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately, a lot of the great posters don't participate here anymore for whatever reason.
01-24-2022 , 08:19 AM
My shitty posting is merely on hold for now.

I'll put my money on 250+ posts. U know, price is right style without going over. Might have to spam a bit come next December to win, but hey **** it I'll be that guy.
01-25-2022 , 08:07 AM
Happy new year other-poker game micro stakes ppl.
01-26-2022 , 08:22 PM
I was thinking the line should be 125.5, so that there are no pushes.
01-27-2022 , 09:25 PM
Just did some math and over 2021 I was winning at .5 BB/hr at live 4-8. Considering the rake not being great I feel like this a big win.

When I include bonus money I won. (Aces cracked, high hand etc. ((I was a little lucky))) I was at about 1.1 BB/hr playing live 4/8. I played about ~500 hrs in 2021.

I feel like I should be taking some shots at 8/16 again this year, no? Last time it didn't go too well, albeit over a very small sample size.
01-27-2022 , 10:02 PM
If you can beat 4/8 for that much you are probably a solid winner at 8/16.
01-27-2022 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
If you can beat 4/8 for that much you are probably a solid winner at 8/16.
That's kind of what I was thinking. Everything I've read says to shoot for 1BB/hr but I almost feel like it's impossible in the game I play. Even with 4/8 being the lowest stake game in the room and a ton of poor players.
01-28-2022 , 10:36 AM
Seems like you're in a good position to take a shot at the 8/16, between confidence and some promo monies. Still, be a little picky about the tables you play. Do some scouting. Are there familiar faces? Do you see loose action? Are they passive or aggressive? Be a 4 player who occasionally plays 8 when it looks good. Transition to an 8 player who occasionally plays 4. It's not a hard and fast step. Prepare yourself for the $$$ swings. It's hard to overcome, "I just lost a new set of golf clubs," in your day to day results. Not everyone does but that's ok.

Highly recommend Tommy Angelo for some thoughts on playing your best, quitting, and being present at the table. Good luck.
01-28-2022 , 11:50 AM
Check out pokerdope variance calculator to give yourself an idea of how insignificant live samples are even over a 1 year period of regular play. 500hrs is nothing . 15k hands . I’ve broke even over 100k hands of 6 max . But to the original point the rake is eating you alive like probably somewhere like 6bb/100 hands .
01-29-2022 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Munga30
Still, be a little picky about the tables you play. Do some scouting. Are there familiar faces? Do you see loose action? Are they passive or aggressive? Be a 4 player who occasionally plays 8 when it looks good. Transition to an 8 player who occasionally plays 4. It's not a hard and fast step.
This is something I will be doing. Last week I was playing 4/8 and there were 2 players who were clearly the worst players at the table. I was shocked when a new 8/16 game was called and they both left to go play it. If there are multiple people like them in a game I'm sure it will be profitable.

I've got to this point by pretty much only mastering the concepts in SSHE. I've read Advanced Limit Hold'em by Barry Tanebaum in the past but most of his concepts are overkill for 4/8. Very few players are actively paying attention. Has anyone read the book and feels like the concepts would be more useful for 8/16? I could see why they would be important in 15/30+.
01-30-2022 , 04:55 AM
Most of winning at 8/16 is exploiting player tendencies. The thing is that it will be a lot of multiway pots in a good game, so showdowns are important and playing solid pre-flop will give you an edge. It’s not until 20/40 that bluffing and bluff catching will become a major part of your game.
01-31-2022 , 01:19 AM
Is there a US facing site that has LHE running at the microstakes?
02-01-2022 , 02:31 AM
Happy February everyone.
02-02-2022 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BLJ
This is something I will be doing. Last week I was playing 4/8 and there were 2 players who were clearly the worst players at the table. I was shocked when a new 8/16 game was called and they both left to go play it. If there are multiple people like them in a game I'm sure it will be profitable.
The same thing happens at higher stakes. The worst players at the 20/40 game will be the first on the list for 40/80. There is correlation between stakes and skill, but not as much as you might think. Get out of the 4/8 rake trap as soon as you possibly can, if you can afford it.

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Originally Posted by Apothos
Is there a US facing site that has LHE running at the microstakes?
ACR.
02-06-2022 , 02:29 PM
Happened to click the "home" button on my browser and ended up here. Nice to see some of the old names still around. Hey y'all.
02-07-2022 , 01:35 AM
Man, how do you guys stick to playing decent cards when you are in the best game imaginable but are absolutely card dead. Q7s starts to look pretty damn good after a while.
02-09-2022 , 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLJ
Q7s starts to look pretty damn good after a while.
A good way to turn a small losing session into a "biggest loss in recent memory" session?


Live poker is inherently boring. Play 1200 hands an hour and "card dead" means a few minutes where you click fewer buttons... oh, that was 2009, wasn't it?


Ignore the below if you just wanted to vent.

Spoiler:
Winning poker is inherently making the right decision over and over. If making a good decision makes you happy and a bad decision makes you sad, then playing Q7s (when you shouldn't) should make you unhappy. You can be at the casino and play based on fun and excitement, and if you're enough better than the field in soft games to get away with some leaks. At some point, you become a fun player. That's fine, if you can afford it.
02-09-2022 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ottsville
Happened to click the "home" button on my browser and ended up here. Nice to see some of the old names still around. Hey y'all.
About the same.
02-11-2022 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeRebooted
The same thing happens at higher stakes. The worst players at the 20/40 game will be the first on the list for 40/80. There is correlation between stakes and skill, but not as much as you might think. Get out of the 4/8 rake trap as soon as you possibly can, if you can afford it.



ACR.


Yeah seriously I saw a guy check behind a Royal Flush on the river today in the 40. This can be independently confirmed and verified, given that guy was me.
02-17-2022 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
Yeah seriously I saw a guy check behind a Royal Flush on the river today in the 40. This can be independently confirmed and verified, given that guy was me.
I once got penalized an orbit in a big tournament for not reraising the river with the king-high flush with the ace on board. A straight flush was possible and we had already gone quite crazy on the turn very early in the tournament with deep stacks, and the dude checkraised me on the river and I was worried he had 42 suited specifically.

Except I had K2s.

I was only playing the stupid tournament as part of my supernova elite package that I earned from playing fixed limit, I really had no idea what I was doing. I don't think playing out of my element excuses me from not being able to read the board, however.

      
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