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Old 06-24-2019, 03:58 PM   #601
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What games are they running?

Yesterday we had 40 going. It was fairly cancerous though, but at least it has sticking potential.


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Old 06-25-2019, 12:50 PM   #602
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Yesterday we had 40 going. It was fairly cancerous though, but at least it has sticking potential.


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How has the 20 game been looking? It looks like they might even get 2 tables going this afternoon.
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:54 PM   #603
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How has the 20 game been looking? It looks like they might even get 2 tables going this afternoon.

Much of the same crowd as Foxwoods so far. Take from that what you will. At the very least you wonít be short of personality and entertainment.


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Old 06-25-2019, 03:28 PM   #604
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Much of the same crowd as Foxwoods so far. Take from that what you will. At the very least you wonít be short of personality and entertainment.


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You think it is going to kill the Foxwoods game?
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:40 PM   #605
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You think it is going to kill the Foxwoods game?
I've been told that a game went off Saturday that was pretty fun, but it's going to be hard to sustain a Foxwoods weekend game with just the crowd of people who live between central RI and New Haven, CT.
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:25 PM   #606
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I've been told that a game went off Saturday that was pretty fun, but it's going to be hard to sustain a Foxwoods weekend game with just the crowd of people who live between central RI and New Haven, CT.
Iím from New Haven originally - isnít Foxwoods closer than Encorr?
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:54 PM   #607
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10 days in the country with a dog, some cats, chickens, and baby praying mantises lol. No car, but there might be a bike in the garage and there are some stores a few miles away.

Thereís a 12 string acoustic guitar and an electric guitar complete with amp. I havenít played electric in years.

Also the Motley Crue movie I watched on Netflix last night was well done imo.
When I was a kid, My family and I were stuck in what was then a Holiday Inn in Denver for three days because of snow. Motley crue was staying there as well. It was between too fast for love and Shout at the Devil. I didn't know much about them then. We interacted with them a ton. They had a huge snowball fight out front. rode the elevator with them several times. Pretty, Pretty cool! I had no clue they would go on to be huge!
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Old 06-28-2019, 09:36 PM   #608
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Lol I’m remembering almost tipping over a work van going around a corner while blasting kickstart my heart.

Raccoons got in the chicken coop. It wasn’t pretty.
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Old 06-29-2019, 08:37 AM   #609
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Quick no-content post.

I just read SSHE for at least the 7th time, slowly went through the hand quizzes and questions, and called up past threads I'd posted due to not being sure what the play was. What amazes me is that even though I've been winning the last two and a half years, there are still tangible, fixable holes in my game. Here's hoping it translates to a bigger winrate!

As a corollary, over the last 2 years I've studying up on other forms of poker - PLO, FLO8, shortstack NLHE and even a little deepstack NLHE. I gotta say, I disagree with people who say to pick one form of poker and study the snot out of it. First of all, and not insignificantly, learning other forms of poker is FUN. Second, it's hard to put it into words but I really feel like with every new game I learn it just improves my perspectives on all of the other games.

It's like Bob148 was trying to tell me 2 years ago - it helps you start to think like a card player instead of an LHE player.

Heading to Winstar tonight to play some 4/8 with SSHE fresh on my mind, then heading to Vegas tomorrow to play O8 at the Orleans for a week. Probably re-read Hwang's book on the plane.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:18 AM   #610
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Always good to read and study, but keep in mind that the game has changed some since SSHE was written. Probably less so at the really small stakes, but I think most 8/16, 15/30, 20/40 games are fairly different now. For example, raising the flop for a free card used to be a standard play that I think a lot of the recs have caught onto now.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:37 AM   #611
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So what do we think about this situation? Playing in the short handed must move 20 game (six handed and the game is pretty tenuous). There is a higher limit mix game that runs daily, but is pretty off and on at this point. Most of the players know each other and tend to “schedule” the game, often around when a particular whale is playing.

So yesterday they collectively decide to break the game (I think because the whale was leaving) and three players (everyone except the whale and 1 other pro) come and sit in the must move game. They are technically from a broken game and thus don’t have to post. Two of them don’t even get chips that play in this game (they have a buyin, but basically borrow chips from the third player if needed for hands). One of them makes a big deal about telling the chip runner that they don’t need the right color chips because he isn’t staying.

So now since the game is full, they move a fish from our table to the 8 handed main game. The higher limit players take their free hands, get up and leave and we are short handed again.

So what is the etiquette on that? I understand it is well within the rules, but it seems like a pretty lame move to break your game, then go take free hands in a game where you have no intention of paying a blind.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:51 AM   #612
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So what do we think about this situation? Playing in the short handed must move 20 game (six handed and the game is pretty tenuous). There is a higher limit mix game that runs daily, but is pretty off and on at this point. Most of the players know each other and tend to ďscheduleĒ the game, often around when a particular whale is playing.

So yesterday they collectively decide to break the game (I think because the whale was leaving) and three players (everyone except the whale and 1 other pro) come and sit in the must move game. They are technically from a broken game and thus donít have to post. Two of them donít even get chips that play in this game (they have a buyin, but basically borrow chips from the third player if needed for hands). One of them makes a big deal about telling the chip runner that they donít need the right color chips because he isnít staying.

So now since the game is full, they move a fish from our table to the 8 handed main game. The higher limit players take their free hands, get up and leave and we are short handed again.

So what is the etiquette on that? I understand it is well within the rules, but it seems like a pretty lame move to break your game, then go take free hands in a game where you have no intention of paying a blind.
If it's a different limit and game they should have to post, broken game doesn't apply.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:58 AM   #613
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If it's a different limit and game they should have to post, broken game doesn't apply.
This is the way I have always known it to be at any room where I played enough to know the rules. Only don't have to post when moving to the exact same game and limit.
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:05 AM   #614
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That is a pretty awful rule allowing players from a broken game into a different game without posting.
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:40 PM   #615
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That is a pretty awful rule allowing players from a broken game into a different game without posting.
Agreed, but it 100% is the rule in this room though. If your game breaks, you can come into any game at any limit without posting.

My point is kinda that these guys from the higher limits should have a bit more respect for a tenuous short handed must move game.
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Old 06-29-2019, 01:15 PM   #616
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If your 3/6 game breaks, do they let you into the 40/80 game without posting?

Even if all of this generally is allowed for patrons who want to continue playing, it should not be allowed for those with a pattern of only playing their free hands.
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Old 06-29-2019, 02:21 PM   #617
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Those guys are all douchebags.
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Old 06-29-2019, 02:39 PM   #618
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Yeah, I would think that the public perception of it would be enough to make all but the biggest nits stop doing it.
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Old 06-29-2019, 04:03 PM   #619
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Why is it that the higher the limits the louder the players? Are they hard of hearing? Do they know they are screaming?
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Old 06-29-2019, 04:16 PM   #620
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If your 3/6 game breaks, do they let you into the 40/80 game without posting?

Even if all of this generally is allowed for patrons who want to continue playing, it should not be allowed for those with a pattern of only playing their free hands.
Yes technically you could do this
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Old 06-29-2019, 07:59 PM   #621
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Your roomís rules are ******ed.
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:26 AM   #622
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If your 3/6 game breaks, do they let you into the 40/80 game without posting?

Even if all of this generally is allowed for patrons who want to continue playing, it should not be allowed for those with a pattern of only playing their free hands.
I did clarify that the rule is supposed to be same game or lower stakes (although it isnít always enforced that way).
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:57 AM   #623
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In most LA casinos, if your lhe game breaks you can go to a smaller game as a broken game player. It doesnít mean that players that break from a mixed game table can take a free round in the 20 or the 40. They would still have to post.
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Old 06-30-2019, 01:02 PM   #624
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Think you guys are right about the rules. If you are the manager, you want them to sit and play. If the cost is "yeah, you guys are from a broken game -- just sit down and don't worry about posting", do you care? Otherwise, does it take forever to get the game going because everyone is playing some 'post in the right spot' game? Most MM players just want the game to be full and playing 9 handed, so I could see the room manager thinking that everybody wins.
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One of them makes a big deal about telling the chip runner that they don’t need the right color chips because he isn’t staying.
Well now they've screwed it up. Make 'em post for sure.
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So what is the etiquette on that? I understand it is well within the rules, but it seems like a pretty lame move to break your game, then go take free hands in a game where you have no intention of paying a blind.
Clearly jerk move.


I guess if this is the rule, you want to sit in the biggest game you can get in where you're close to breakeven. Play the maximum number of free hands. Get up. You have to have a decent edge in any game given the 0.75bb you don't have to pay in the blinds. If they let you sit the button without posting, you won life and stole a bunch of ev. As long as you're a huge thief, that's the play.
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Old 06-30-2019, 01:55 PM   #625
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Even if you are the worst player in the game, only play AA and you win.
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