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Old 05-17-2019, 07:59 PM   #526
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I think I’ve played fewer than 8 live PLO sessions (between 4-8 hours let’s say) and have somehow managed 3 wins of more than $4k (at like 1-2-5 or 2-2-5 stakes).

I only loosely know how to play PLO.

Standard?
It's way higher variance than limit and nl hold'em so seems possible. I've also heard ability of the typical player is much lower, super fishy pool.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:45 AM   #527
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It's way higher variance than limit and nl hold'em so seems possible. I've also heard ability of the typical player is much lower, super fishy pool.
+1

Also, plo plays much bigger than nlhe and the stakes hf played were high (esp w the 3rd blind). 2/2/5 plo is like 10/20 nlhe or 50/100 lhe, I’d guess. A lot of the variance results bc the preflop equities run much closer in PLO. Postflop, getting it in against a somewhat reasonable player and being greater than a 2/1 favorite is rare. Knowing these things makes me feel a whole lot better that I’ve prob lost more at plo than any other game haha
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:19 AM   #528
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The few times I've played there is much much less preflop aggression at PLO cash vs. NLH.
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:33 PM   #529
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QQ, AQo x2, TT, AKs, AJs all didn't pan out within one hour. I might've misplayed one, the rest just ran bad. Crashed down 30 BB after a big heater last session.

I'm having a hell of a time trying to deposit on ACR. Regulators telling me I have to go play a bigger higher variance game instead of playing online is like making cocaine legal but keeping weed illegal.
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:06 AM   #530
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QQ, AQo x2, TT, AKs, AJs all didn't pan out within one hour. I might've misplayed one, the rest just ran bad. Crashed down 30 BB after a big heater last session.

I'm having a hell of a time trying to deposit on ACR. Regulators telling me I have to go play a bigger higher variance game instead of playing online is like making cocaine legal but keeping weed illegal.
just buy funds in one of the transfer threads. make sure you do your research and trade with someone reliable. don't get scammed
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Old 05-20-2019, 03:46 PM   #531
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just buy funds in one of the transfer threads. make sure you do your research and trade with someone reliable. don't get scammed
.... oh I actually have an irl friend who can do that too. Sometimes I miss the painfully obvious.

In other news, I got my old account back. DrHoldem no more, now back to Reaper! DougL is the man!
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:08 PM   #532
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:27 PM   #533
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:47 PM   #534
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Also, plo plays much bigger than nlhe and the stakes hf played were high (esp w the 3rd blind). 2/2/5 plo is like 10/20 nlhe or 50/100 lhe, I’d guess. A lot of the variance results bc the preflop equities run much closer in PLO. Postflop, getting it in against a somewhat reasonable player and being greater than a 2/1 favorite is rare. Knowing these things makes me feel a whole lot better that I’ve prob lost more at plo than any other game haha
No third blind - these games are all 1-2 or 2-2, but it is $5 to call PF or max raise is $15. Definitely more action and variance, but doesn’t play as big as you
are thinking. Probably between 2-5 and 5-10 nl and 10-20 and 15-30 lhe pot size wise.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:37 PM   #535
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No third blind - these games are all 1-2 or 2-2, but it is $5 to call PF or max raise is $15. Definitely more action and variance, but doesn’t play as big as you

are thinking. Probably between 2-5 and 5-10 nl and 10-20 and 15-30 lhe pot size wise.


This is MN?
Same rules as Arizona SL games or true PLO up there?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:42 AM   #536
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Played the 8/16 at Canterbury for a couple hours last night. It was the game I was looking for: multiple 1k+ stacks, chips flying, people pushing. Played my regular game and wasn't the fish at the table for once. Nice double-up and leave in under 2 hours.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:23 PM   #537
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This is MN?
Same rules as Arizona SL games or true PLO up there?
Nah this was in Texas. No PLO in MN...everyone’s solid.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:55 AM   #538
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No third blind - these games are all 1-2 or 2-2, but it is $5 to call PF or max raise is $15. Definitely more action and variance, but doesn’t play as big as you
are thinking. Probably between 2-5 and 5-10 nl and 10-20 and 15-30 lhe pot size wise.
Ah gotcha, I misinterpreted the “2/2/5”. I’d agree w the stakes comparisons.

I used to play in a mix game that no longer runs, w a 40bb-75bb cap in the big bet games. I didn’t think the 40 bb cap allowed for enough postflop maneuvering, esp in 3 bet pots, but I liked the 60 bb cap
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:03 AM   #539
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Ah gotcha, I misinterpreted the “2/2/5”. I’d agree w the stakes comparisons.

I used to play in a mix game that no longer runs, w a 40bb-75bb cap in the big bet games. I didn’t think the 40 bb cap allowed for enough postflop maneuvering, esp in 3 bet pots, but I liked the 60 bb cap
Yeah the buyin cap for this was $200-500, which seemed small but the way it played there were multiple $2-3k stack very quickly.

First hand was a “bomb” pot where everyone puts in $10 pf, they deal two boards and the action starts on the flop. I had something like AKQ7 ds, flopped top two on one board, top pair plus nfd on the other board and got it in 5 ways on the flop. Lol.
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:50 AM   #540
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Jeez. Omaha players have so much gamble.
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:54 AM   #541
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Jeez. Omaha players have so much gamble.
Shrug and get it in. How wrong can you be?
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:16 PM   #542
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Shrug and get it in. How wrong can you be?
Haha.

The signal to noise ratio is already too low for me at work and in limit hold'em. I don't need even more ambiguity in my life.

But I agree top two on one board and top pair + nut flush draw on the other sounds much better than 1 in 5. All I remember from the Omaha book I read was "when drawing, draw to the nuts".
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:30 PM   #543
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It brings to mind euro rounders.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:58 PM   #544
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Shrug and get it in. How wrong can you be?
It this instance we can be up against sets on both boards and brick everything to be 100% wrong. When guy actually scooped when his set held and he somehow backdoored a straight on the other board. Thankfully we ran better after that first hand.
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Old 05-23-2019, 03:50 PM   #545
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11 days of NC thread on this last page... I see things haven't changed much since I last came in here.

Seems like mostly names from what was the Small Stakes and not as much the Microstakes peeps I knew, but I recognize some names still.

Might pop in here now and again, but I'm mostly (i.e. more than once in the last week or so) posting in Live Low Stakes NL or whatever it's called so I might instead just bite the bullet and start posting in their NC thread there.

Anyways, pop over and tell me how crap I play NL if you want.
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Old Today, 09:07 AM   #546
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Anyways, pop over and tell me how crap I play NL if you want.
2 card PLO? You should play in a game where they give you all 4 cards.
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