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01-04-2019 , 12:51 AM
okey gais im redy 2 go pr0
01-04-2019 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
I have several tiny, indoor racing drones, an outdoor racing drone, an outdoor photography drone, and am now adding some RC planes - they all fly slightly differently. I haven't tried RC cars. What is it about the RC cars that you enjoy? Do you race, or just enjoy building different models of real cars?

Hopefully you run good at poker this year - and win lots of money you can spend on RC cars!
Thanks. I run a YouTube channel on off-road RC cars, different types. Recreational cars and trucks ("bashers"), off-road race kits, and started doing crawlers (rock-climbing/hill-climbing type trucks). I race off-road occasionally.

Thought about getting a drone for photography/videography to up the quality on my videos. Andrew Neeme has amazing production quality for his poker blogs on his channel, someday it'd be nice to get something halfway decent looking.

I've always been into cars, motorcycles, pretty much motorized vehicles of any type. I've also been fascinated with anything that is a juxtaposition of something that is part technical and part human ability/talent. Poker has the mix of the technical side and the human element. Cars and motorcycles have that technical engineering side and human skill and ability side. I used to be heavily into paintball which again is a mix of human skill and technology.
01-04-2019 , 09:32 AM
Captain R is the Borg queen!
01-04-2019 , 01:18 PM
Not hawt enough, IMO.
01-04-2019 , 02:08 PM
Captain R is Seven of Nine!
01-04-2019 , 02:38 PM
Yarrr, me pieces of eight will summon Callipso to the surface of ye felt. His words are mixed and many by fathoms deep and wide. BEWARE. YARRRR.
01-04-2019 , 05:19 PM
Just got in with a national dog walking/sitting service. They warned that it could take up to 10 days to pass background checks, but I put in some hours on my profile, got a reference to post a testimonial, and I'm hired within 24 hours.

Talking about my dog on my profile brought me to tears, but I'll be fine.
01-05-2019 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Captain R is the Borg queen!


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Originally Posted by callipygian
Captain R is Seven of Nine!
01-05-2019 , 01:40 PM
Should've gone w/ this one for the second:

01-05-2019 , 01:41 PM
BTW, if Captain R could use Borg technology to transform into Seven of Nine I'd give him a go, I admit it.
01-05-2019 , 10:32 PM
Jeri Ryan would have to eat a hell of a lot of crackers before I would kick her out of bed; but I wouldn't touch Seven of Nine with a ten-foot pole.
01-05-2019 , 11:01 PM
I just saw a table literally break-the rake box fell to the floor it was so full! Never saw that one before.

In other news from Astar Black Hawk, a dealer was recently fired and presumably will be charged with a crime after he was caught stealing the rake. The story I’ve heard is he would put his hand over the red chip and drop it into his tip box when he pulled back. Got busted by a player, too. Almost certainly was stealing from the players as well, one of the regs commented that he caught him trying to drop a $25 and a $5 last year, that was surely going into his box. He was a sucky dealer too, first card he ever pitched to me went over the rail, and it was all downhill from there...
01-06-2019 , 10:46 AM
I've seen a player walked off the table in handcuffs. They probably didn't do that to the dealer...


As big as those pots are, it isn't shocking in retrospect. When you have $1 chips, $5 chips, and $25 chips in 30/60 and 50/100 pots, they are just so physically big. How often does it take more than a hand to stack a pot? The guy's chances of getting away with it in one of those pots are pretty good. Do you count down to the last $5 or $25 in stacking up one of those? I'll admit that I never do, being in a hurry to play the next hand while stacking.
01-06-2019 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
I've seen a player walked off the table in handcuffs. They probably didn't do that to the dealer...


As big as those pots are, it isn't shocking in retrospect. When you have $1 chips, $5 chips, and $25 chips in 30/60 and 50/100 pots, they are just so physically big. How often does it take more than a hand to stack a pot? The guy's chances of getting away with it in one of those pots are pretty good. Do you count down to the last $5 or $25 in stacking up one of those? I'll admit that I never do, being in a hurry to play the next hand while stacking.
My new years resolution is to become even more hyper aware of what's happening at the table. I'm watching the dealers like a Hawk..In your case it would be Black Hawk. It's amazing how many mistakes they make. I haven't seen any cheating or stealing yet.

There was a situation yesterday where a guy in seat 2 won a pot and was owed 60 bucks by seat 1. A few minutes later seat one paid him. About ten minutes later the dealer asked seat 7 if she had paid seat 2. Apparently she was light in that pot as well. She went on a rampage screaming that she had paid him a long time ago. Seat 2 didn't even know that he was owed money from her. Half the table claimed that she did pay him. The other half of the table either didn't remember or said that she had the money out but didn't pay him. Seat 2 asked the floor to check the video but unfortunately couldn't remember what position he was in or exactly when this took place so they weren't able to confirm one way or the other. The floor came back pretty quickly so I'm guessing he didn't take too much time to look into this.

I'm trying to get better at being on top of things. I honestly don't remember this lady owing seat 2 anything. I don't remember her having money out or paying him.

How's it possible that a table of nine players can't remember where the button is on a given hand? It just show's how many people are in a daze.
01-06-2019 , 12:16 PM
Was it Sgt Rock of .rgp fame who talked about counting every pot as a way to be engaged at the table? One of the other former black pros? Always liked this idea, but in practice it is hard.

It is difficult here because the first raise in a kill pot is a full 20 stack of red chips. You get three bet, and then a 4 bet is to 2 stacks. On the turn, you're almost getting a rack shoved in as the last raise. In a juiced up game (and that's why quantph is driving all the way up there), you can see 5+ rack pots. Or, people mix in most of a stack, a couple greens, and maybe a black chip?

If it isn't a kill pot, you get 3 greens thrown that expect 3 red chips of change as the raise. As a dealer, you swipe through some red stack to get 5 red chips and throw three of them as the change. Drop one of the reds into the box to get 5 whites. Two of those whites go with a red as 5+2 dropped. 3 whites in the pot. A crooked dealer has a lot of places to make a move and a lot of stacks that are "supposed" to be uneven. I'm sure there's correct procedure to make all of this visually clear, but a couple of players splashing the pot...
01-06-2019 , 12:33 PM
Lol 5+2 is gross. Have they considered a time charge? Regular players would be well served to see if there’s a system that can be used that would be faster for everyone. Like maybe just one type of chip? Or a player buys a rack or two of white and changes a chip in the small blind or something so the dealer doesn’t have to do it every hand. I can imagine slow dealers going extremely slowly to figure out the right change, etc
01-06-2019 , 01:40 PM
I don't recall overlapping with Sgt. Rock in my RGP days. But it certainly is a good idea to count the bets as they go into the pot. It is even more essential for no-limit, and not as easy.
01-06-2019 , 01:52 PM
People are crooked when it comes to money? No ****ing way.
01-06-2019 , 02:48 PM
I always track the amount that is supposed to be in the pot. But if someone palms a chip or something, I've never - with one exception - counted the actual pot to make sure everything is there.

The sole exception? 30/60 (20/30 blinds), I raise, all fold, and the dealer collects the blinds which include $10s and five $1s but no $5s. I stop the dealer from pushing it to me and ask him to count, sure enough, it's $5 short, and sure enough, the SB swears up and down he put a $10, a $5, and five $1s.
01-06-2019 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Lol 5+2 is gross. Have they considered a time charge? Regular players would be well served to see if there’s a system that can be used that would be faster for everyone. Like maybe just one type of chip? Or a player buys a rack or two of white and changes a chip in the small blind or something so the dealer doesn’t have to do it every hand. I can imagine slow dealers going extremely slowly to figure out the right change, etc
Why would the casino consider a time charge? They're dropping ~$200/hr at 30/60. They'd need to charge $11/half hr down to take a similar amount. I've also heard but cannot confirm that under Colorado gaming rules time charge is not permitted. And they'd still drop for the promos, they won't permit us to take that off until we're 4-handed. But most of the dealers are pretty quick with pulling in a nickel and putting out 5 whites, 2 go to the jackpot immediately. If we could pay time, eliminate the jackpot drop, and use $10 chips we'd play another 2-3 hands/hour (but it'll never happen).


The thing that puzzles me is that this guy must've been cashing out a lot of red birds ($5 chips at Astar BH). It's reasonably unusual to see that as a tip-$3 is not uncommon for big pots since there's usually 3 whites in the pot after the jackpot drop. And the best tipped dealers are the attractive women who also deal well and are chatty, this was a pudgy guy who dealt poorly, NFW he was going to be the best tipped dealer there. I don't know what the room is like where the dealers cash out but I imagine they rack up their tips and hand that to a cashier to be counted and recorded, you'd think another poker dealer would notice? Or perhaps the cashiers?

As DougL noted, it's tough to count a pot in that game when it's gone to the river 4-handed, takes a while to stack the chips. The dealers usually break down stacks to ensure they're correct so I know the pot is right but I'd have a helluva time ensuring that a dealer wasn't stealing from the pot.
01-06-2019 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Lol 5+2 is gross. Have they considered a time charge? Regular players would be well served to see if there’s a system that can be used that would be faster for everyone. Like maybe just one type of chip? Or a player buys a rack or two of white and changes a chip in the small blind or something so the dealer doesn’t have to do it every hand. I can imagine slow dealers going extremely slowly to figure out the right change, etc
Not sure about now, but a decent number of people do keep white chips for tips and do put a 5 stack in during the blinds. Agree with everything Quantph said. The reason for the $2 BBJP drop is that the players asked for it, if I recall.

Those games are proof that keeping the right players happy makes a game, and that the sharp players should be laughed at. A* drops $200/hr with rake worse than the Rio at WSOP time, no problem. Long lists. There was a room down the street that tried like $3 rake, generous food comps at the table, and room comps almost for the asking. They could hardly keep a game going. They certainly couldn't get a big game, though for a while they had O/8 and then some 1/2/100 "PLO". Think they offered 10/20 for a while. Why go there to play in a bad 10/20 when there's a good 30/60 two blocks away?

I think the 50/100 goes with green chips, though I'm guessing that if you're the right player changing in from the 30 game, you're not forced to color up. I remember playing (20/40?) at the Mirage with $10 chips, and some Stud player sat with a bunch of $5 chips. The brush came by and tried to get him to color up. He refused and threatened to leave if they made him. As a very fun player, the table demanded that he be allowed to play wrong chips.
01-06-2019 , 08:22 PM
What does this room do to make the right players happy?
01-06-2019 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by quantph
I just saw a table literally break-the rake box fell to the floor it was so full! Never saw that one before.

In other news from Astar Black Hawk, a dealer was recently fired and presumably will be charged with a crime after he was caught stealing the rake. The story I’ve heard is he would put his hand over the red chip and drop it into his tip box when he pulled back. Got busted by a player, too. Almost certainly was stealing from the players as well, one of the regs commented that he caught him trying to drop a $25 and a $5 last year, that was surely going into his box. He was a sucky dealer too, first card he ever pitched to me went over the rail, and it was all downhill from there...
In my career I'm aware of 2 dealers being fired for stealing chips from the pot and 1 employee being fired for writing themselves massive markers they defaulted on. All 3 were immediately employed by another casino.
01-06-2019 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by quantph
I just saw a table literally break-the rake box fell to the floor it was so full! Never saw that one before.
After Ballys in Vegas went to a $2 jackpot drop, they had problems with the jackpot box filling up. They don't have $2 chips so they just keep trying to cram them in. I guess their box pickup is on an unchangeable schedule, because they lose lots of time screwing with the box. Flamingo stacks them up until they get $5.

Hey pope, did you see the Wildcat work his magic once again?
01-07-2019 , 06:47 PM
Another year another thread.

      
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