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Old 05-04-2019, 12:56 AM   #451
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem

Did you mean to get yourself that extensive of a ban? I thought you just booted yourself from Talking Stick.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:27 AM   #452
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I feel like when talking about other players it's not uncommon to say they are bad or solid or things much more descriptive.
IME, the worse someone plays, the more they comment on how bad other people play. Obviously not a truism, but a trend.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:52 AM   #453
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I think that poker is a game of exploiting weaknesses, and some players are very poor at adjusting to the other personís weaknesses. Iíve seen many players that seem to play well against me flounder against the calling station, passive players that are typical in good games.

So calling a player bad is missing the point, because even two players that have the same type of ďbadĒ play styles (like donkey) might make very different mistakes on different streets.


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Old 05-04-2019, 11:40 AM   #454
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Warning: Long post ahead.

Last night I had one of those nights that overall really couldn't have been much better.

I've been a Sammy Hagar fan since 55. I've NEVER seen him live. I thought I was going to get to see him when he came to Winstar Casino last year, but life happened. To my delight, he announced he was coming back this year and there was no way I was going to miss it twice.

So last week I get a coupon for a free buffet at Winstar. Last night I headed up there early to eat and get in a few hours at the tables before the show. My buffet meal choices ended up being szechuan broccoli beef, brisket, prime rib, green beans and broccoli/cauliflower mix. Delicious across the board.

Then at the 4/8 LHE table, I get super super lucky. I very recently decided to increase my daily stoploss from $200 to $300 after a combination of adding to my bankroll each year and being on a winning streak. I sit down to a table where there's a maniac raising literally 80% of his hands and getting colcalled in 3 spots, and capping every time he got 3-bet. With 20 minutes I'm down $100, within 45 minutes I'm down $200. It broke my record for the fastest I've ever lost $200 (previous record was 2 hours). If I hadn't made the decision recently to increase my stoploss, I'd have had to get up - I'd have been done. But with a $300 stoploss, there was no way in hell I was getting up from such a juicy table. My hands started actually holding up and by the time it was time to go to the concert I'd gone from down $200 to up $100 - which is about what I paid for the concert ticket .

Sammy was AWESOME. He started right on time and played for 2 solid hours - at age 71! And quite frankly, there's very little difference in the quality of his shows between last night and what I saw on MTV in the 80s. He's ageless. And having Michael Anthony and Jason Bonham on stage with him was only bonus.

After the show I sat down at the 1/2 PLO mix game (with a $5 bring-in) just for the fun of it. The guy to my right raised to $20, the guy to my left called, the guy to his left 3-bet to $65, folds around to PFR who calls and the caller calls. I don't remember the action but the guy to my left ended up winning the hi/lo pot with an A5. The guy to my right started mumbling wondering what kind of hand that had an A5 in it was worth putting in $65 before the flop. The guy to my left heard him mumbling and said, "Hey, you don't like the way I play? You can go **** yourself. Who do you think you are insulting the way other people play?" the guy to my right said, "I didn't insult you at all, and even if I did, you told me to go **** myself - which is worse?" The guy to my left ended up saying, "I'm outta here I have better things to do than let people insult me". For about the next 15 minutes, the table was debating whether or not he was correct to call with that hand, citing that before the flop equities run even yada yada yada.

I kept getting dealt trash, so while everyone else was building near-family pots, I was folding everything, and eventually a guy to my left joked, "So are you just here for the entertainment?" I laughed and said, "Well, I'll tell you this - y'all are more animated than the folks at the 4/8 tables!". From there the table evolved into a discussion about how miserable everybody is at the 2/5NL tables, and then from there (I wish I was joking) the conversations denigrated to discussing women who sell their poop over the internet, and then people who take cups of mud into bathrooms and throw them onto the feet of the guy in the next stall. "Can we go back to discussing the A5 hand again???? Please??????" I said. "Whatsa matter, ya don't like the entertainment anymore????" they joked.

So to wrap up the story, I lost a bunch of small pots early to dwindle my $200 stack down to about $80, then won a $70 pot in a hi hand where I flopped two pair and raised a c-bet. The guy said, "If YOU are raising I'm TERRIFIED!!!" The guy to my left called with a big draw that missed. Later I got double-suited kings all in preflop for about $150 against rainbow kings with an ace. The river was an ace but it gave me a flush so I doubled up. I lost a couple more small pots and got up from the table up $50.

Great night. Looking forward to more like it.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:57 AM   #455
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Did you mean to get yourself that extensive of a ban? I thought you just booted yourself from Talking Stick.
That's not an option anymore and the paperwork mentions that CET will ban from all properties so that was not a surprise. I don't miss poker at all, it'd gotten boring seeing the same faces so much. A year off is what I needed.
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Old 05-04-2019, 01:07 PM   #456
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I sit down to a table where there's a maniac raising literally 80% of his hands and getting colcalled in 3 spots, and capping every time he got 3-bet. With 20 minutes I'm down $100, within 45 minutes I'm down $200. It broke my record for the fastest I've ever lost $200 (previous record was 2 hours). If I hadn't made the decision recently to increase my stoploss, I'd have had to get up - I'd have been done. But with a $300 stoploss, there was no way in hell I was getting up from such a juicy table.
I have a love/hate relationship with tables like this. I love that I can easily get into big pots when I have better than my share of equity, but I hate how the chips can just fly off the rack so quickly when you miss a few hands.

Any hands preflop you thought were borderline? In these situations I try to keep it to medium to big pocket pairs, suited broadways, and maybe down to T9s and A7s ish if in position and I'm sure it won't go to 4 bets. Being in big blind if closing the action is a great spot to open up getting 7 or 9 to 1.
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Old 05-04-2019, 01:26 PM   #457
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Any hands preflop you thought were borderline?
Before I answer that, I could have sworn I made that long post in the LC thread. If I posted it here, it was a mistake. With that said, how to adjust to tables like this is probably a valid discussion for this thread because those adjustments start preflop.

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Old 05-04-2019, 01:28 PM   #458
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Before I answer that, I could have sworn I made that long post in the LC thread. If I posted it here, it was a mistake. With that said, how to adjust to tables like this is probably a valid discussion for this thread because those adjustments start preflop.

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Haha I was wondering, but decided to just think it was a colorful way to initiate a conversation about preflop at wild tables.
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Old 05-04-2019, 02:34 PM   #459
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem

I almost self-banned walking out of the local card room after having a super terrible experience (the players were ****, the dealers were being idiots, and the floor wasn't doing a particularly good job either) but my dad talked me out of it.

Still should have self-banned.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:05 PM   #460
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Before I answer that, I could have sworn I made that long post in the LC thread. If I posted it here, it was a mistake. With that said, how to adjust to tables like this is probably a valid discussion for this thread because those adjustments start preflop.

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Moved it here for you. Fun story.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:10 PM   #461
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Look on the bright side: At least you're in action. I haven't gone this long w/o gambling in 45 years.
Download wsop.com and play for play money?
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:32 PM   #462
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Iíll check that out. Right now I play on Stars play money where the rake is absurd. What theyíre doing by charging so much for play chips and raking so much is the real crime but at least Iíve never had to buy any.
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:08 PM   #463
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I think I ran my original 10k or whatever playchips on Stars up to 12 million then back down to 4 mirrion.

Is this what it's like being isildur1?
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:49 PM   #464
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He isnít a BBV super star so youíve got that going for you.
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:59 PM   #465
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I feel so attacked right now

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Old 05-04-2019, 10:17 PM   #466
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Calm down.

This will make you feel better:

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Old 05-04-2019, 11:15 PM   #467
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The ban's statewide. And I got a certified letter from Harrah's that I'm now banned from all of their properties. I am literally in poker jail.
Before I get to saying ďHelloĒ to all my friends that Iíve missed, Iím gonna need the cliffs on this.

Doug, BBB, Bob, Capín, pope, AB and a bunch of others: How the hell are you fellas? Iíve missed being around and look forward to catching up. Donít expect any poker content, but Iíll endeavor to supply the occasional witty/lame comment now and again.

And HB, youíd be proud of my ďGentlemanísĒ cane collection. Iíll post a pic when I can figure out how to do so.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:19 PM   #468
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TO be 100% honest that made my night.
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Good to hear from you Leo, hope all is well.
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The Black Jack got me, doc.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:29 PM   #471
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Thank you, pope. A little rain, some sunshine and the grass grows. Life’s a lot like that, right?
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The Black Jack got me, doc.
So it was a self-ban?
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:32 PM   #473
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He self-banned by telling the dealer "hit me!" while attacking him with a new shoe.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:55 PM   #474
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That's pretty good!

yea, self ban, doc,
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Doug, BBB, Bob, Capín, pope, AB and a bunch of others: How the hell are you fellas?
To be honest, I play mostly tourneys now. They say you find your niche, and I have(10.8% roi over 1400 small to medium field mtts, 11% first place, 27% cash, standard bad reg stuff). Still dabble in limit holdem among other games, but I've come to realize that I make much better decisions with my tourney life on the line, apparently.

Still gotta mean jump shot. Would be willing to do a head to head best of 5 from the top of the key with any reg here.

Callipygian quit on us citing "phone issues."

QJs still a monster bvb.

etc, so basically nothing important changed.
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