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Micro-Small Stakes Limit Discussions about micro-small stakes Texas Hold'em (all stakes up to around 15/30) |
04-20-2019, 03:56 PM
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#351
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I forgot how obnoxious variance is. I'm running at almost 2 BB/hr over my first 4 sessions back in years and I am still wondering if I'm making huge mistakes because of 20 BB swings happening mid session last two times.
Last edited by DrHoldemPhD; 04-20-2019 at 04:05 PM.
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04-20-2019, 04:38 PM
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#352
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Not At Casino AZ
Posts: 31,245
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I lost every session for a month straight (about 400 total hands because I play once a week for 3-4 hours), and I finally booked a winning session yesterday.
I was stuck over 40 bets early in the session and clawed back to about 20-25 bets stuck before I set over set over setted on the flop and won a 30+ bet pot. That is what it took to book a slightly positive session for me.
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04-20-2019, 07:40 PM
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#353
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Urban Pharmer
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: The Land of Sheep and Honey
Posts: 19,317
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
When you have to hit an absurd hand like that to book a win you know you're running bad.
I can't empathize though
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04-20-2019, 09:47 PM
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#354
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canterbury
Posts: 6,024
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I lost every session for a month straight (about 400 total hands because I play once a week for 3-4 hours), and I finally booked a winning session yesterday.
I was stuck over 40 bets early in the session and clawed back to about 20-25 bets stuck before I set over set over setted on the flop and won a 30+ bet pot. That is what it took to book a slightly positive session for me.
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Tis a fickle game at times.
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04-21-2019, 02:55 AM
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#355
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Just wrapped up 5 hr -50 BB session. Only can think of two loose flop peels that I'd do differently.
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04-21-2019, 12:57 PM
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#356
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Making stupid side bets
Posts: 18,945
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Haha I’ll throw my crappy hat in the crappy ring: I’m on a ~200 BB downer which includes 10 losing sessions out of 12 and the only significant winner included getting two full houses in the big blind in limped pots with 94o and 85s
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04-21-2019, 02:02 PM
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#357
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Formerly red
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Doing what my dog wants
Posts: 22,028
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I haven't had a losing session since April 9th.
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04-21-2019, 02:04 PM
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#358
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I bet that was the last session you played, you nit
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04-21-2019, 02:11 PM
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#359
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,492
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
A few months ago, I had a few bad sessions in a row. But I just kept playing my best poker, knowing that it would turn around eventually.
Then I had a session where I started off in the first couple of hours losing to a few bad river cards. I didn't tilt and just kept playing. A few hours later, I had grinded back to a small win, and I decided to quit for the day. Finally, a winning session. I was racked up and looked down at my last hand of the day, and I had 99 ... and the flop was Q93 ... and I lost to 66 who went runner runner, turning a small win into a small loss.
Just keep playing good poker. That will work in the long run. The NEXT time I went to the casino - I hit 2 inside straight draws (with odds to draw), I won with 99 against 5x and 6x on a board of 556...6...9 (neither opponent raised until the river, so I thought I *might* be up against something like a straight draw and an Ax), and most of my big pairs held up. That day wiped out several of the past losing sessions.
What comes around goes around - just keep playing good poker.
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04-21-2019, 05:16 PM
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#360
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canterbury
Posts: 6,024
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
In the last 1.5 years I’ve had a 150BB upswing, a 200BB downswing, a 350BB upswing and a 150BB downswing playing 20 and a lilttle 40. Pretty amazing how you can feel unstoppable and like you’ll never win again, all while playing the same fundamental game.
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04-21-2019, 05:31 PM
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#361
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I'm a little over breakeven now so in 24 hours of play or so it was essentially 50 up then 50 down.
I think I'm handling it well. I didn't tilt at anyone last night when it got real bad. Just said nice hand and let it go. Got chatty with some nice regs which as a rec player is part of the fun. When I called it a night the last half hour had been so bad even the dealer commented on it lol.
I'm reading a lot and thinking about hands so that's good. I think my loose game chops might've always been a bit rusty because I leaned hard into online 6-max early on so my skills in tight and aggressive games got really good.
Overall, I'm going to add to my roll from my discretionary money each month. Debating if and when to take a shot at 20/40 to get out of the 8/16 muck.
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04-21-2019, 05:32 PM
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#362
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Or maybe I should play online again to build experience back up...
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04-21-2019, 05:50 PM
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#363
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,824
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I’m running at +5bb/hour for the last year, so I’m sucking up all the run good
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04-21-2019, 05:52 PM
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#364
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Urban Pharmer
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: The Land of Sheep and Honey
Posts: 19,317
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I'm running at either +4 bb a session or -25 bb a session and there is no middle-ground
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04-21-2019, 06:24 PM
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#365
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: contributing to the poker economy
Posts: 3,420
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I'm still basically dead even lifetime over about a 265-hour sample. I have yet to be bitten by the variance bug but I'm bracing myself for when it finally happens.
My daily limit is 25BB. The quickest I've ever lost my whole 25BB is 2 hours once, 3 hours once and 5 hours twice. I have never had two straight sessions where I lose all 25BB.
This isn't a brag. This is every time I walk around a corner I wonder if there'll be a hammer coming at my face.
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04-21-2019, 06:40 PM
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#366
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
25 BB sounds like a good limit. Letting 50 go in one session was probably too masochistic. It's just hard to leave when you're seeing everyone else at the table make mistakes every hand.
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04-21-2019, 06:52 PM
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#367
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Urban Pharmer
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: The Land of Sheep and Honey
Posts: 19,317
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Walking into a situation where you just KNOW that someone is throwing money away but still getting bit in the ass is the worst. It's also hard to walk away from a session where you're sucking up a disproportionate amount of beats from people you view as fish.
I usually become the fish when I decide to stay.
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04-22-2019, 07:27 AM
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#368
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Too helpful for this post
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 21,789
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
I’m running at +5bb/hour for the last year, so I’m sucking up all the run good
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You're playing full time? That's epic. Mixed in with all the singe session results, this is like "here's many hundreds of hours of crushing". nh
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04-22-2019, 08:09 AM
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#369
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,824
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by DougL
You're playing full time? That's epic. Mixed in with all the singe session results, this is like "here's many hundreds of hours of crushing". nh
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No, I play about 20 hours a month so lol sample size.
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04-22-2019, 09:25 AM
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#370
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fighting for my right to play poker
Posts: 6,881
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by DrHoldemPhD
25 BB sounds like a good limit. Letting 50 go in one session was probably too masochistic. It's just hard to leave when you're seeing everyone else at the table make mistakes every hand.
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I always say I will have a stop loss, but seldom enforce it. But I'm just playing as a rec and value the time I get to play.
If I was going to set one it would probably be 30, but it's real tough to get up from a good game just because you are running bad. It's probably more important to be able to know when you are no longer playing your A game and let that guide you on when to quit.
I remember some epic swings back in the day so I am just trying to play good poker and ignore my graph. Heck, I can't remember the last time I studied like I have been. It's been fun.
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04-22-2019, 10:40 AM
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#371
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 278
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
No, I play about 20 hours a month so lol sample size.
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Is this at Hammond?
Mostly 20?
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04-22-2019, 11:29 AM
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#372
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Urban Pharmer
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: The Land of Sheep and Honey
Posts: 19,317
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Stop loss.
Sto ploss
Sto PLO ss
sto PLOss
PLOss
PLO
Okay when I set a stop loss I'll play small steakz PLO
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04-22-2019, 11:41 AM
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#373
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,824
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
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Originally Posted by Just another guy
Is this at Hammond?
Mostly 20?
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Yes, almost all 20/40 kill
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04-22-2019, 11:46 AM
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#374
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 278
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
Nice.
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04-22-2019, 06:30 PM
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#375
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fighting for my right to play poker
Posts: 6,881
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Re: 2019 NC/LC THREAD - No problem
I thought there was a 6max stats thread in here? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Also: Are there any session review groups still going? Or am I showing my age?
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