Did you mean to get yourself that extensive of a ban? I thought you just booted yourself from Talking Stick.

IME, the worse someone plays, the more they comment on how bad other people play. Obviously not a truism, but a trend.

I think that poker is a game of exploiting weaknesses, and some players are very poor at adjusting to the other person’s weaknesses. I’ve seen many players that seem to play well against me flounder against the calling station, passive players that are typical in good games.

So calling a player bad is missing the point, because even two players that have the same type of “bad” play styles (like donkey) might make very different mistakes on different streets.


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Warning: Long post ahead.

Last night I had one of those nights that overall really couldn't have been much better.

I've been a Sammy Hagar fan since 55. I've NEVER seen him live. I thought I was going to get to see him when he came to Winstar Casino last year, but life happened. To my delight, he announced he was coming back this year and there was no way I was going to miss it twice.

So last week I get a coupon for a free buffet at Winstar. Last night I headed up there early to eat and get in a few hours at the tables before the show. My buffet meal choices ended up being szechuan broccoli beef, brisket, prime rib, green beans and broccoli/cauliflower mix. Delicious across the board.

Then at the 4/8 LHE table, I get super super lucky. I very recently decided to increase my daily stoploss from $200 to $300 after a combination of adding to my bankroll each year and being on a winning streak. I sit down to a table where there's a maniac raising literally 80% of his hands and getting colcalled in 3 spots, and capping every time he got 3-bet. With 20 minutes I'm down $100, within 45 minutes I'm down $200. It broke my record for the fastest I've ever lost $200 (previous record was 2 hours). If I hadn't made the decision recently to increase my stoploss, I'd have had to get up - I'd have been done. But with a $300 stoploss, there was no way in hell I was getting up from such a juicy table. My hands started actually holding up and by the time it was time to go to the concert I'd gone from down $200 to up $100 - which is about what I paid for the concert ticket .

Sammy was AWESOME. He started right on time and played for 2 solid hours - at age 71! And quite frankly, there's very little difference in the quality of his shows between last night and what I saw on MTV in the 80s. He's ageless. And having Michael Anthony and Jason Bonham on stage with him was only bonus.

After the show I sat down at the 1/2 PLO mix game (with a $5 bring-in) just for the fun of it. The guy to my right raised to $20, the guy to my left called, the guy to his left 3-bet to $65, folds around to PFR who calls and the caller calls. I don't remember the action but the guy to my left ended up winning the hi/lo pot with an A5. The guy to my right started mumbling wondering what kind of hand that had an A5 in it was worth putting in $65 before the flop. The guy to my left heard him mumbling and said, "Hey, you don't like the way I play? You can go **** yourself. Who do you think you are insulting the way other people play?" the guy to my right said, "I didn't insult you at all, and even if I did, you told me to go **** myself - which is worse?" The guy to my left ended up saying, "I'm outta here I have better things to do than let people insult me". For about the next 15 minutes, the table was debating whether or not he was correct to call with that hand, citing that before the flop equities run even yada yada yada.

I kept getting dealt trash, so while everyone else was building near-family pots, I was folding everything, and eventually a guy to my left joked, "So are you just here for the entertainment?" I laughed and said, "Well, I'll tell you this - y'all are more animated than the folks at the 4/8 tables!". From there the table evolved into a discussion about how miserable everybody is at the 2/5NL tables, and then from there (I wish I was joking) the conversations denigrated to discussing women who sell their poop over the internet, and then people who take cups of mud into bathrooms and throw them onto the feet of the guy in the next stall. "Can we go back to discussing the A5 hand again???? Please??????" I said. "Whatsa matter, ya don't like the entertainment anymore????" they joked.

So to wrap up the story, I lost a bunch of small pots early to dwindle my $200 stack down to about $80, then won a $70 pot in a hi hand where I flopped two pair and raised a c-bet. The guy said, "If YOU are raising I'm TERRIFIED!!!" The guy to my left called with a big draw that missed. Later I got double-suited kings all in preflop for about $150 against rainbow kings with an ace. The river was an ace but it gave me a flush so I doubled up. I lost a couple more small pots and got up from the table up $50.

Great night. Looking forward to more like it.

That's not an option anymore and the paperwork mentions that CET will ban from all properties so that was not a surprise. I don't miss poker at all, it'd gotten boring seeing the same faces so much. A year off is what I needed.

I have a love/hate relationship with tables like this. I love that I can easily get into big pots when I have better than my share of equity, but I hate how the chips can just fly off the rack so quickly when you miss a few hands.

Any hands preflop you thought were borderline? In these situations I try to keep it to medium to big pocket pairs, suited broadways, and maybe down to T9s and A7s ish if in position and I'm sure it won't go to 4 bets. Being in big blind if closing the action is a great spot to open up getting 7 or 9 to 1.

Before I answer that, I could have sworn I made that long post in the LC thread. If I posted it here, it was a mistake. With that said, how to adjust to tables like this is probably a valid discussion for this thread because those adjustments start preflop.

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Haha I was wondering, but decided to just think it was a colorful way to initiate a conversation about preflop at wild tables.

I almost self-banned walking out of the local card room after having a super terrible experience (the players were ****, the dealers were being idiots, and the floor wasn't doing a particularly good job either) but my dad talked me out of it.

Still should have self-banned.

Moved it here for you. Fun story.

Download wsop.com and play for play money?

I’ll check that out. Right now I play on Stars play money where the rake is absurd. What they’re doing by charging so much for play chips and raking so much is the real crime but at least I’ve never had to buy any.

I think I ran my original 10k or whatever playchips on Stars up to 12 million then back down to 4 mirrion.

Is this what it's like being isildur1?

He isn’t a BBV super star so you’ve got that going for you.

I feel so attacked right now

Calm down.

This will make you feel better:

Before I get to saying “Hello” to all my friends that I’ve missed, I’m gonna need the cliffs on this.

Doug, BBB, Bob, Cap’n, pope, AB and a bunch of others: How the hell are you fellas? I’ve missed being around and look forward to catching up. Don’t expect any poker content, but I’ll endeavor to supply the occasional witty/lame comment now and again.

And HB, you’d be proud of my “Gentleman’s” cane collection. I’ll post a pic when I can figure out how to do so.

TO be 100% honest that made my night.

Good to hear from you Leo, hope all is well.

The Black Jack got me, doc.

Thank you, pope. A little rain, some sunshine and the grass grows. Life’s a lot like that, right?

So it was a self-ban?

He self-banned by telling the dealer "hit me!" while attacking him with a new shoe.

That's pretty good!

yea, self ban, doc,

To be honest, I play mostly tourneys now. They say you find your niche, and I have(10.8% roi over 1400 small to medium field mtts, 11% first place, 27% cash, standard bad reg stuff). Still dabble in limit holdem among other games, but I've come to realize that I make much better decisions with my tourney life on the line, apparently.

Still gotta mean jump shot. Would be willing to do a head to head best of 5 from the top of the key with any reg here.

Callipygian quit on us citing "phone issues."

QJs still a monster bvb.

etc, so basically nothing important changed.