Yeah - some variation on “show em or throw em” generally comes out

If they think I play good cards and my cards are near the top of my range, or if they think i play bad cards and my cards are near the bottom of my range, I'll fastroll and start texting on my phone to give the impression that I'm right in the middle of my range.

Yeah. They get one strike from me and then they are tabling first or mucking for the rest of our lives.

An unknown is sitting in the game. He's wearing a very nice shirt, has a wedding ring which means some woman took him but his teeth are a gap filled brown horror, he has clown hair that's somewhat better than TRUMP's, which isn't saying much, is playing 80%, calls down w/ an under-pair to the board multi-way and is mumbling to himself. And I'm sitting there thinking: 'Is it possible that this fellow is as stupid as he looks or is this just the effect of losing?'

Am I going to hell for thinking that?

The effect of losing a pot, or the effect of clearly losing at life?

Am I going to hell for thinking THAT?

To be fair it WAS a nice shirt.

Long term, it's probably bad for your soul to conflate "bad at poker" with "bad at life" and "wins at poker" with "wins at life."

I would just assume he's one of many people who is successful at business and terrible at poker.

And being successful at business doesn't necessarily mean he's smart or anything, some people just run hot at life. Like he delivered pizzas to an early Bitcoin miner and the guy didn't have enough cash so he gave him $5 worth of Bitcoins as a tip and now some pizza delivery guy is a Bitcoin millionaire.

Or he has a rich family and a Dunning Kruger ratio of 10,000.

Success is a subjective definition, right? I've met more successful business people with bad attitudes than good attitudes, strange how that works.

Gotta be an ******* to squeeze every last dollar out of your employees.

Day after the 2016 presidential election, the owner of the company I worked for strutted into my office, clearly looking determined to talk about it. We had been friends for years, so I politely told him that I was incredibly busy (true) and didn't have any interest in discussing anything political (also true). He launched into a ten minute tirade, including screaming "**** you" in my face, then flipping the bird at me and the rest of his employees that "might not like how things are now."

That was a fun day.

Seems like a gentleman.

Do you still work for him? I see worked in the sentence so no?

I think there are times when someone needs to say, "I don't care whether your excuses are good or bad. I only care whether you get it done."

The people who use it too often are probably more successful financially than the ones who use it too seldomly. Of course you want to be the person who uses it just the right amount but if you look at the conditional probability of someone overdoing it given that ultimately it succeeded (financially), it's going to be way higher than the general population.

I'm pretty sure if you gave CEOs a personality test they would as a group score really high on narcissism and psychopath, and if you selected the CEOs you thought were great they would score only moderately high on those scales - that is, they can use those traits when needed but can also turn them off when needed.

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Did you keep in touch with anyone after you left to hear about how your leaving presents were enjoyed?

I wasn't thinking 'bad at poker' (I see that every day) or even 'bad at life.' I was thinking that the man is a doofus. There's no one to teach him 'barber' and 'dentist' and what's w/ the mumbling? He's mumbling bec he can't win a hand and how stupid do you have to be to be mad that you're losing bec you call w/ a small pair when there's nothing but over-cards and players are betting?

Maybe he married money and his wife is blind.

Honestly, sounds like he played the hand he was dealt pretty well. Got terrible hair, terrible teeth, but has enough money to blow at poker, married (up), and a great fashion sense.

There's always a bright side!

That's what I meant. Unless you think someone's got every aspect of his or her life together, there's always the choice to focus on what they're missing or what they have.

It's better for your soul to do the latter.

One of the reasons that I rarely get upset at anything is that I consider much of life as theater and this fellow was playing a great part.

Played the BJ and won, showed up at the cage w/ a handful of blacks, and there's a beautiful young woman in an outrageous outfit staring at me. I think I found one of the hookers.

You find out later that she was scouting the BJ table you were playing for her team. Not only was the count terrible, but your basic strategy was an abomination. She was staring at your chips like anyone here would at the mountains of chips made by the guy who made back to back full houses with J2o and 73s played from EP.

You find out later that she was scouting, playing you for her BJ. Not only was the strategy terrible, but you were an abomination. She was staring at you like a full house.

She's a brick house. She's mighty mighty, just letting it all hang out.

I got to witness the following hand from a player I consider pretty solid.

4 handed must move, game is hanging on by a thread. We are just waiting for the two spots to come back from the pits, otherwise the game is gonna break.

Solid player in question raises what he later shows me is black KK UTG. Button who is admittedly an expert and the best player in this game overall posted a SB and calls. SB calls, I fold the BB. Flop Q85hhd, SB checks, SP checks, button bets, SB calls, SP raises, button 3!, SB calls, SP 4!, button caps, SB calls.

At this point SP starts talking to himself and saying “I can’t believe I am gonna fold this” and “xxxx has to have flopped a set here”. I of course think this is BS because there is literally no way that a competent player can take this line. Then slowly he uncaps his cards, shows them to me and mucks them. Was all I could do to keep it together until after the hand played out.

Yikes, the button could show his set and it would be right to peel one card with the KK at that point.

Although I don't get what the expert is doing just calling preflop, even with a SB invested.