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Old 09-16-2018, 11:12 AM   #2151
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

It turned into 4bbs lost when my big stack doubled through an even bigger stack when their KK ran into my AA twenty hands later.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:59 PM   #2152
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

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I can go either way. Let's say you play a guy who you can correctly go 8 bets with the 4th nuts. Sometimes you lose a bunch of bets
Correctly go 8 bets but he’s not a manic? Sounds like a mythical creature
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:09 PM   #2153
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Correctly go 8 bets but he’s not a manic? Sounds like a mythical creature
He is a maniac. But even maniacs get the nuts sometimes.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:23 PM   #2154
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He is a maniac. But even maniacs get the nuts sometimes.
That was my thinking. I went about 12 bets with a maniac with the 2nd nuts. I was super nervous, because when he rolled the 7th nuts, he was sure that mountain of chips was coming his way.
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:39 PM   #2155
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

A9 4/8 kill, first hand dealt, raise UTG

Button is three to my right and has the kill, makes it 3, small blind and big blind call, call

A93

Check through to button who bets, SB+BB call, I raise, all call

6

Check to me, bet, all call

Q

What I want to know here: Is checking here a terrible play from me?
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:54 PM   #2156
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

yes
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:56 PM   #2157
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:59 PM   #2158
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

AA 4/8 kill in the BB

Five callers preflop, I raise, all call

963

I bet, four callers, including smug button from previous hand

Q

I bet, folds except button

J

What I wanna know here: is it a terrible line for me to check in order to check-raise?
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:29 PM   #2159
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

To AlwaysFolding: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...cement-355397/
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:48 PM   #2160
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That's ten years ago, the game has totally changed obviously.

/sarcasm
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:49 PM   #2161
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

Also, the check-raise did go through, he flopped flush with K8, and the other hand he had AJ.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:50 PM   #2162
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

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AA 4/8 kill in the BB

Five callers preflop, I raise, all call

963

I bet, four callers, including smug button from previous hand

Q

I bet, folds except button

J

What I wanna know here: is it a terrible line for me to check in order to check-raise?
A9 is a clear bet on first hand because you only lose to AQ and there area bunch of hands that will call and a spare few that will bet.

This hand is player dependent. There are several people I play against that will “bluff” any pair here as well as bet/call any spade. If you don’t know the player, then just bet.
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:18 PM   #2163
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Also, the check-raise did go through, he flopped flush with K8, and the other hand he had AJ.
So, he flopped a flush then slowplayed until he was beat?
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:48 PM   #2164
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

Slow-playing a huge hand is received wisdom at 4-8.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:40 PM   #2165
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Ya gotta chop your own wood on the river.
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:51 PM   #2166
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I definitely have wood on the river
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:57 PM   #2167
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I once had relations with someone at the table, not at the table.!
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:17 PM   #2168
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So, he flopped a flush then slowplayed until he was beat?
Correct

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Ya gotta chop your own wood on the river.
I should not have let that man put his wood chopper in on my river. Next time only my wood.

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I definitely have wood on the river
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I once had relations with someone at the table, not at the table.!
I like where this is going
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:18 PM   #2169
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A9 is a clear bet on first hand because you only lose to AQ and there area bunch of hands that will call and a spare few that will bet.

This hand is player dependent. There are several people I play against that will “bluff” any pair here as well as bet/call any spade. If you don’t know the player, then just bet.

I have limited history with the player, but I assumed he was chasing a fourth spade, didn't think he would be calling down without the K.

I am taking both points into consideration for the future.
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:35 PM   #2170
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

Unless you're checking 100% as in the case of (weak range oop vs strong range), the top of your range is a 100% bet 3 bet opportunity.
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:12 PM   #2171
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You could've gone 3 bets on the river instead of just two.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:13 PM   #2172
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MISTEAKS were made. I appreciate you guys.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:42 PM   #2173
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Unreal - I could use some advice on this cause I am at a loss.

Sitting in a nondescript 8/16 kill game waiting for 20 or 40. 8 way limped pot where I am in MP2. Flop comes out and dealer is carrying on a conversation with the one seat. This is another regular, otherwise good dealer. SB, BB check, UTG does not check (apparently), MP checks, I check, CO checks, button bets, UTG now decides he wants to bets and does, MP folds, I say “whoa, whoa” or something like that.

Dealer now snaps back to the table and clearly has no idea what is happening. Button decides to pull back his bet, dealer initially says no you can’t, players argue, they agree that the button can pull his bet back and UTG can bet. I tell the dealer he should call the floor. He says “do you really want to stop the game for that” or something. I ask him to call the floor again. He says “the action is on you, UTG bet and MP folded” or something like that. I tell him I am not acting and he should call the floor. He rolls his eyes and says “seriously?”.

Now let’s be clear of two things. First, I have no idea what the right ruling is here. Second, I am 100% folding irrespective of what the decision is.

So because I refuse to act the floor is called and in front of the dealer and all the players (who are all now irritated that I am wasting time), I tell the floor (who I know very well) that this is the third time in the last two months that a dealer has refused to call a floor for me and that this is very frustrating. After I rack up for the day, I go to the same floor and the guy who runs the room and rearticulate my frustration.

Other than not playing there, anything else that I can do about this?
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:47 PM   #2174
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Re: 2018 NC/LC - Misteaks Were Made

You seem to get yourself in these situations frequently. Why is that?
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:59 PM   #2175
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Correct ruling is the button’s bet stands and action proceeds from there but if you are going to fold regardless, I think the correct play is to just move on with your life.
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