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02-04-2018 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Time charge at Talking Stick was raised from $7 to $8/down. I wonder if that would make some of the pro-types move to LV?
LOL, Bay is $15/half.
02-04-2018 , 05:56 AM
And the Omahaha types must play 3000 hours a year, based on how long it takes to get a seat.
02-04-2018 , 10:13 AM
Can anyone comment on Leo Doc's aliveness? thanks.

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02-04-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
LOL, Bay is $15/half.
Wut?
02-04-2018 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob148
Can anyone comment on Leo Doc's aliveness? thanks.
I talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago. Seems like his normal awesome self, with maybe a bit of a limp for character. Can't confirm if sword cane is on hand.
02-04-2018 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Wot?
FYP.

80 is $15/half hour, after some re-negotiations. Used to be $8 ($7+$1 river) per hand drop. 40 and smaller is $6+$1. No jackpot, no comps, no free soda or even coffee. Free water though!

Yes, 4/8 has a $7 ($6+$1) drop if it gets to the river...

The price of poker is going up!
02-04-2018 , 04:01 PM
It's quite disgusting and I don't have anything nice to say about it. As all things in life, vote with your feet.
02-04-2018 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
You fold at least?
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Originally Posted by Wetdog
The board paired and two pairs became a full house.

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No and no. He raised with a the straight flush draw on flop, donk bet blank turn, and smashed the 2c on the river.
02-04-2018 , 06:59 PM
Had to be a steel wheel from your description.
02-04-2018 , 07:05 PM
Or 6 high

He said he'd flopped the ace high
02-04-2018 , 07:11 PM
He would have lost less if there were A-5 suited on board. You can't put someone on the lone J as 2nd nuts, that way.
02-04-2018 , 07:14 PM
Best part was when I saw the flop. I said to myself "well, I'm gonna lose, but how?"
02-04-2018 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
FYP.

80 is $15/half hour, after some re-negotiations. Used to be $8 ($7+$1 river) per hand drop. 40 and smaller is $6+$1. No jackpot, no comps, no free soda or even coffee. Free water though!

Yes, 4/8 has a $7 ($6+$1) drop if it gets to the river...

The price of poker is going up!
I wouldn't have said anything if I'd known it was 80 but if it's $7/hand X 35 hands (seem right?) that's $245/hr v. $30 X 9 = $270 which isn't a catastrophe although I suppose that the tighter regs will feel it more.

The increase at Talking Stick is reasonable given that it's been $7 for so long but it seems to me that adding $4-5K/yr as a fixed cost might make some think of moving. And, for sure, the dealers are going to be rooting for the recs even more than they did before!

I'd like to know what the $1 is for if there's no BBJ or even free coffee.
02-04-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
FYP.

80 is $15/half hour, after some re-negotiations. Used to be $8 ($7+$1 river) per hand drop. 40 and smaller is $6+$1. No jackpot, no comps, no free soda or even coffee. Free tap water though!

Yes, 4/8 has a $7 ($6+$1) drop if it gets to the river...

The price of poker is going up!
fyp? They got rid of the free tea and coffee? Guess the new building is expensive. Guess they were spoiled with low rent locked into the lease on the old building.

For pope: Foles and Gronkowski were Arizona teammates, so one way or another, a Wildcat is going to win in the Super Bowl.
02-04-2018 , 10:25 PM
# passes Foles completed to Gronk: 0
02-04-2018 , 11:20 PM
They should have put Foles back there on the last play. He's 6'6" and a very good basketball player.
02-04-2018 , 11:39 PM
lol @ my friend who hasn't worked since '99ish (high school):

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if the eagles win the superbowl over the next 5 years I have to keep a fast food job for a week and if the cardinals do he does. we made the bet 5 years ago.
02-05-2018 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
I wouldn't have said anything if I'd known it was 80 but if it's $7/hand X 35 hands (seem right?) that's $245/hr v. $30 X 9 = $270 which isn't a catastrophe although I suppose that the tighter regs will feel it more.
It's actually pretty close to 40 hands/hr. No flop, $1 drop. I think overall it's pretty close to even, but the time charge is faster so you get more hands overall, fewer dealer mistakes, and more blind steal situations. It probably rewards players who play longer too, because if you leave before your BB to avoid the time charge, you lost hands that the players remaining are getting an advantage for (you posted and got fewer hands than you paid for).

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I'd like to know what the $1 is for if there's no BBJ or even free coffee.
If the river card is dealt, it's an extra $1 drop.
02-05-2018 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain R


If the river card is dealt, it's an extra $1 drop.
Wot? (heh) If I had to think of a strange poker thing this would be last, if ever. Anyplace else do this?
02-05-2018 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Wot? (heh) If I had to think of a strange poker thing this would be last, if ever. Anyplace else do this?
It's basically a way for them to get a partial increase on the drop without going to a full $1 more. If it gets to the river, say, 50% of the time, they're basically dropping $7.50 without having to use 50 cent chips or make change.
02-05-2018 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Wot? (heh) If I had to think of a strange poker thing this would be last, if ever. Anyplace else do this?
They do it in most southern California rooms also, it started about 3 years ago.
02-05-2018 , 09:44 AM
I haven't played in SoCal for more than 3 years so now I know what's going on if/when I finally get there again.
02-05-2018 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
The increase at Talking Stick is reasonable given that it's been $7 for so long but it seems to me that adding $4-5K/yr as a fixed cost might make some think of moving.
If you're winning +1 BB/hr at 20/40 over 2,000-2,500 hours/year, this is a 5% loss. I'm pretty sure the games have gotten more than 5% worse since the rake was last bumped up. I'd also guess the number of hours per year that a game is running has gone down by more than 5% too. You definitely can't statistically separate a 5% gain/loss from no change over that time period. ****, even inflation over the past few years has eaten away more than 5%.

Obviously if you can avoid losing 5% it's better than losing 5%, but I think rake increases are nothing more than lightning rods. People whine about modest, inflation-appropriate rake increases like they're forever entitled to whatever the rake was when they first started playing and everything else is pure corporate greed.

It's way easier for a pro to actively promote a game and buy an extra 20 minutes a day of game time than it is to fight a reasonable rake increase. Especially when the rake increase is even out of management's control and has been set by local minimum wage ordinances or whatever.

People who have been playing for a long time should be happy that for many years the rake increases were sub-inflation. When people poured into poker it was easy to overlook lost income when YOY numbers were stellar.
02-05-2018 , 07:46 PM
You can also help out collecting the time, which easily buys a minute every down, which adds 3%.

Other things like actively sorting out things when confusion happens and preventing them ahead of time. Wether that is the pot being short or heavy, someone who is staring off into space preflop, etc. All these things can help get you more hands per hour.

I do these things very actively, but that is easy since I play like 4-5 hours a week.
02-05-2018 , 08:54 PM
The real problem for a 20 pro is that the earn is the same, iow they can't raise prices bec of inflation and they prob aren't rolled or skilled enough to move up. It'd help them if the game became 25-50 but that's likely not going to happen.

Now I have to hope that they don't increase the rake in my games.

      
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