Big O is quite fun, but is probably the absolute most frustrating form of poker when you're running bad.

Very often you will have what seems to be a total lock on the board on the flop, get screwed out of half the pot on the turn, and end up getting scooped on the river.

Story so far: I’m assuming the game is good based on what’s being shown down. It’s 6-12 with a “half” kill to 10-20 ($2 chips) on a scoop of sufficient size (I’m quite frankly not sure what the min is)

High water mark was +70 , then the 99/90 sat down to my immediate left and started winning all the chips. Currently -200

Is this limit 5 card O/8 or 5 card PLO/8?

Limit O/8...I wouldn’t play .06-.12 PLO

Oh. I think of Big O being PLO/8, not limit. I've played a fair bit of loose 5 card LO/8. Just pay attention to draws and redraws. Jam when there are a lot of chances to make scooping, nut hands. Be ready for big swings as the bad players have a lot of chances and they're willing to draw thin to win. IME, the biggest thing is to make the pots big when you have a better than average chance to win most of it. Blockers matter a bit. Drawing to 2nd (or 3rd) nut low or flush is likely to be bad.

Ended up dusting off 2 racks...standard. Mr. 99/90 (in reality, unless I missed something, it was 100/85) won about $700. I obv don't understand this game.

HOTD: It goes bet-raise and I 3! turn with the nuts holding QJT on QxTQ and it winds up capped heads-up. I think, "J and I'm scooping!" K on river. The other guy's scooping!

Honorable mention: I'm BB and 100/85 straddles (at least it wasn't a kill pot). Like 5 people call and I 3! AA23-something with one suit. Flop KK8

Tuesday night I had AA2w about 15 times and never once got more than a quarter of the pot (and usually got scooped). It's a brutal game.

I here limit holdem is a fun game.

Those hands are standard. I've mentioned that patience is required in 08 so get right back on that horse!

The horse is pretty far away...it just so happened my wife was visiting her mother and I didn't feel like playing LHE at the local. My one serious complaint is that the game is stultifyingly slow.

There's a limit to how good a O/8 can be, due to hands/hr -- once it is 8 ways to the turn, the dead hands putting in $ cost you time. An amazing /8 game just doesn't get in a ton of hands/down. Still fun. Profitable. I'd look at spots where you're playing one-way hands, drawing to non-nut hands, etc. Where are you playing hands where you can't raise? Where are you passively drawing and then hit and are still lost?

08 is horribly slow for those used to LHE, there’s no way around it.

We were playing 9-handed, so what would ordinarily be UTG got an INELIGIBLE button unless they happened to be the killer, in which case the hand would be played 9-handed and then the floor would have to be called to shuffle up the burn cards in order to deal a river. I guess that's another complaint because the room was pretty busy and the floor was not immediately available a couple of times.

ETA: I remembered that the kill condition was a 45-chip scooped pot, including the $5 drop. 7.5 big bets...seemed kind of random.

They're playing just one game, not a mix, and seating more players than can be dealt in without running out of cards? Bizarre, sounds like a very poorly run room.

That's why Talking Stick spreads the 20-40 Big0/SuperStud8 7 handed.

Hi pig4bill

I was actually wondering what happens in the event of a jackpot, unlikely as it is

Big O probably doesn't have a jackpot.

That 4th quarter was pathetic. They don't deserve a bowl game.

It does in this room, quad 10s or better beaten. Loser gets 40%, winner 30% and the rest of the table splits 30%, but it says "between the remaining qualified players". I understand if the UTG was dealt in, the cards would have come down differently, but if the guy's just sitting there, it's not like he's been lobbying for 10 minutes and he should get a table share. JMO anyway

cross post. nerdy content warning!

random thought about exploiting players that fold too much

I think this could be applied to any game not just no limit holdem.

Ok, we know that vs player who fold too much we bluff more, ez game.

What about our thin value/protection bets postflop? I usually tighten my value range vs tight players, but I'm starting to think that I shouldn't be so afraid of their tight range if they're folding too much(tight players that showdown at high frequency need not be considered here). Now, I think that the value of protection vs these guys goes way up with thin value hands, so maybe even expanding the value range to include exploitive thin value bets could be correct.

This has the added benefit of backing up our increase in bluffs with showdownable hands.

Of course all that extra bluffing and value betting will significantly weaken our checking ranges, but I think that's a necessary loss of ev that is more than compensated by the extra protection and bluff value we're getting when we bet.

AK spades, 3bet PF to 46 on top of UTG raise to 16

Flop Ad3d4c

He checks. I bet half pot. He jams. We snap.

Turn 10h

River 8d



Why

You have an 'UNLUCKY!' tattoo on your forehead?

Your hand isn't very strong once he jams flop. If the raise is >1.5 pots I'm probably folding.

He's a fun-player chugging down bud light and value-betting a pair of sixes on JT864 boards. Does that change anything?