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The 8-16 0E would be my game of choice if I absolutely HAD to win but I don't and it's not much fun. Plus it doesn't always last and w/ the degree of patience required and the reduced hours I have available I just don't like it.

8-16 LHE, I'm coming HOME!

This is the spirit!

I believe in you Mr. Howard Beale. I personally prefer the OE just because I'm over holdem at the ripe age of 28, but when I come to AZ I will play holdem with you.

11-16-2017 , 10:16 PM

#2077

jesse8888

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Sir....at that point the line was 6.5. I did you 16 cents of solid on 3:1

FOOTBAW

11-16-2017 , 10:46 PM

#2078

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

This is the spirit!

I believe in you Mr. Howard Beale. I personally prefer the OE just because I'm over holdem at the ripe age of 28, but when I come to AZ I will play holdem with you.

Nope, 0E it'll be. Just get ready for some of these yokels who talk about the hands in progress and ask someone 'don't you have a club? You win if you have a club!' I don't bother saying anything bec it'd ruin the vibe and these ppl, who have some idea of how to play 08 - as bad as that idea might be - are simply terrible at Stud8 and I don't want to be 'that guy.'

11-16-2017 , 10:59 PM

#2079

AlwaysFolding

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So you're saying it'd be easy to play back at them with faulty information? I think this is an exploitable tactic if the dealers don't do anything about it IYAM. I get that it's unsavory and makes you a complete pile of garbage but when in Rome...

Stud8 is such a good game when I'm not on monkeytilt.

11-16-2017 , 11:30 PM

#2080

Howard Beale

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No, it's just that most are regs, they've been doing this for years, and I'd be an outcast if I tried to make them stop the talking, the slow playing and w/e other stuff they do.

The patience of Buddha is necessary in that game and I don't have the time.

11-17-2017 , 12:08 AM

#2081

jesse8888

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Freeeeeee. Money

11-17-2017 , 01:17 AM

#2082

Howard Beale

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It's just so damn slow.

11-17-2017 , 02:40 AM

#2083

chillrob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

It's just so damn slow.

I've started reading an ebook on my phone while playing 8/16 O8 at the Orleans.

11-17-2017 , 11:43 AM

#2084

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

It's just so damn slow.

Well, at 8/16 and half the speed it's like 4/8 at normal speed, right? Quick maths!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillrob

I've started reading an ebook on my phone while playing 8/16 O8 at the Orleans.

Such a good game though. Patience is worth many dollars in the Orleans 8/16.

11-17-2017 , 04:21 PM

#2085

TheDarkKnight

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Fun fact: I've lost more money playing $8/$16 O8 in the past 3+ years than any other specific game - and 38 of my 41 total hours have been at Orleans.

Super small sample but since I go there so infrequently over a long period I kind of associate Orleans with running god awful.

11-17-2017 , 04:28 PM

#2086

AlwaysFolding

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I can appreciate that. I am down lifetime at the Orleans for certain overall regardless

11-17-2017 , 04:48 PM

#2087

chillrob

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I appreciate the contributions of you worthy gentlemen.

11-17-2017 , 04:50 PM

#2088

TheDarkKnight

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More fun facts:

-I'm running at -$1.15/hour over 270.5 hours of live O8 cash games last 3+ years

-running at +$0.88/hour over 459 hours including online cash games

-running at +$14.49/hour over 600.5 hours including O8 tournaments, thanks to top 4 finishes at Pendleton Round Up and LAPC

I know I'm no O8 expert but I'm still surprised by those lackluster cash game results.

11-17-2017 , 06:10 PM

#2089

Howard Beale

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What's the average number of players pf in your games?

11-17-2017 , 07:42 PM

#2090

AlwaysFolding

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Generally there will be between eight and nine players at a table, Howard.

11-17-2017 , 08:11 PM

#2091

TheDarkKnight

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^ lol

The games I play in are good. I know I have run really bad in O8 live but I won't pretend like I'm playing a perfect strategy. It's a game I'm still figuring out and I typically don't get enough reps to see drastic improvement, especially since I only play online on Global and they don't have any LO8 cash games.

I've played two sessions of O8 > 5 hours in 2017.

11-17-2017 , 10:35 PM

#2092

Howard Beale

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Any 2p2 08 book will make you better. At the low limits where there are 5+ players pre, which is almost always the case, it takes an effort to be a loser over a large sample which you ofc don't have. And having the patience to just sit there and let them have their fun while restricting your starting hand selection to what it ought to be - hands that are always playing for the nuts - requires a great deal of discipline.

11-17-2017 , 10:36 PM

#2093

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

Generally there will be between eight and nine players at a table, Howard.

You must be a really nice person irl. If you ever come to Talking Stick I will buy you a pot roast dinner.

11-17-2017 , 11:13 PM

#2094

TheDarkKnight

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I've read all the relevant o8 books I think.

11-17-2017 , 11:23 PM

#2095

Howard Beale

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So what you need now are two things: Putting in the hours and achieving the mental state of a Zen master.

11-18-2017 , 01:42 AM

#2096

TheDarkKnight

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Pretty close to having the latter... definitely not the volume though. My home casino has a $6/$12 o8 game now and it's really good but I have a really hard time justifying playing a split pot game with a $6 rake when there is always a crazy $8/$16 LHE going. Shrug.

11-18-2017 , 03:32 AM

#2097

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

You must be a really nice person irl. If you ever come to Talking Stick I will buy you a pot roast dinner.

I know, deep in my heart, that this is sarcasm. I want to believe so badly that it's not, but I know the truth. It's also very funny, funnier than my dad-joke response to your question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

So what you need now are two things: Putting in the hours and achieving the mental state of a Zen master.

IIRC the zen master part is VERY important.

11-18-2017 , 11:48 AM

#2098

Howard Beale

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I wasn't being sarcastic in the least. And the pot roast dinner is first class.

11-18-2017 , 02:10 PM

#2099

mongidig

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If you have the money I think you are doing an injustice to yourself by not playing the 20/40 at Talking Stick. I'm alway's shocked but pleasantly surprised every time I have played there how bad these people play and it's always the same people. Even the good playeres aren't that good with the rare exception of a few who might be there waiting for the 40 to start or are on the list for a mix game.

The 8/16 game is usually good but you are more likely to be stuck on a no action table were people are actually trying to play good than 20/40.