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08-02-2017, 03:35 PM   #1001
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by SetofJacks Yes. However, I present to you an even rarer board: 8528J
I saw 8528J the other day and pointed out to the table how we were soooooo close.

08-02-2017, 03:56 PM   #1002
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by KL03 No way, I saw that one yesterday and didn't even realize how rare it was.
1 in 2.6 million if my calculations are correct.

For a royal flush, the calculation you'd use is:
(20/52) first card can be any of the five Broadway cards, any suit
* (4/51) any of the four Broadway cards in the same suit
* (3/50)
* (2/49)
* (1/48)
= 0.0000015391
= 1 in 649,730

 08-02-2017, 06:42 PM #1003 pig4bill Carpal \'Tunnel   Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 29,008 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Except there aren't 52 cards. All the players have two cards and there are 3 burn cards. You'd have to calculate the likelihood that the card you're after is already out of "play".
 08-02-2017, 06:47 PM #1004 Bob148 Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: May 2012 Location: takin it to the streets Posts: 10,485 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Except that when your card is actually in play, the chance of it coming out is better than (out)/(unseen).
 08-02-2017, 07:49 PM #1005 Howard Beale Formerly red     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Doing what my dog wants Posts: 21,794 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) First thing I asked: 'Was it a chopped pot?' Second thing: 'Did anyone bet?' More interesting, and I'll ask this next chance I get, is did each player in at showdown get the \$100 Royal bonus?
08-02-2017, 08:10 PM   #1006
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by SetofJacks 1 in 2.6 million if my calculations are correct. For a royal flush, the calculation you'd use is: (20/52) first card can be any of the five Broadway cards, any suit * (4/51) any of the four Broadway cards in the same suit * (3/50) * (2/49) * (1/48) = 0.0000015391 = 1 in 649,730
The easier way to do it is counting combos.

There are 4 royal flushes. There is exactly 1 combo of whatever you listed.

In either case, you divide by C(52,5), the total number of 5-card hands there are. So the combo you listed is exactly 1/4 as frequent as a royal flush, but exactly the same as if you specified a particular royal flush (e.g., there is exactly 1 spade royal flush).

08-02-2017, 09:31 PM   #1007
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by Howard Beale First thing I asked: 'Was it a chopped pot?'
Well played.

 08-03-2017, 02:03 AM #1008 BigBadBabar California Elephant     Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: I finished my website! Posts: 21,441 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) it's 50/50. either it's a royal or it's not.
08-03-2017, 02:49 PM   #1009
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by Howard Beale More interesting, and I'll ask this next chance I get, is did each player in at showdown get the \$100 Royal bonus?
Given the history of CAZ's generosity, what do you think?

 08-03-2017, 07:04 PM #1010 Howard Beale Formerly red     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Doing what my dog wants Posts: 21,794 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) I forgot that both hole cards have to play. I'd have lobbied for it anyway just to yank the floor's chain.
 08-08-2017, 11:03 AM #1011 Bob148 Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: May 2012 Location: takin it to the streets Posts: 10,485 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Good morning. "you guys playin cards?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UpFqL8hkwE <3
 08-08-2017, 01:00 PM #1012 callipygian slowrolled by tpiranha!     Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: but I don't know which Posts: 19,882 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) I've always thought it strange that people refer to poker as "playing cards." In my mind playing cards means like playing Go Fish with my kids or playing slapjack in high school. Games like poker or bridge or pinochle are referred to by their Christian names.
08-08-2017, 01:14 PM   #1013
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by callipygian I've always thought it strange that people refer to poker as "playing cards." In my mind playing cards means like playing Go Fish with my kids or playing slapjack in high school. Games like poker or bridge or pinochle are referred to by their Christian names.
I think it's a way to make the game seem more innocuous. Rather than tell the wife, "I'm gunna bring \$500 and make big gambool with the boys tonight!", you're just going out to "play some cards".

08-08-2017, 01:52 PM   #1014
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by Captain R I think it's a way to make the game seem more innocuous. Rather than tell the wife, "I'm gunna bring \$5000 and make big gambool with the boys tonight!", you're just going out to "play some cards".
FYP

08-08-2017, 01:54 PM   #1015
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by callipygian I've always thought it strange that people refer to poker as "playing cards." In my mind playing cards means like playing Go Fish with my kids or playing slapjack in high school. Games like poker or bridge or pinochle are referred to by their Christian names.
The big "card" game way back when I was in high school was "Bloody Knuckles". I'm not sure of the exact rules, but at some point in the game one player would take the deck of cards and slash it across the first of a competitor which often drew blood.

I never played, and not just because I wasn't one of the cool kids. I had no desire to inflict pain on another person, nor did I want to volunteer to be assaulted.

I much prefer poker, a much more civilized game, where large sums of money can be taken from an opponent.

 08-08-2017, 02:20 PM #1016 that_pope Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Casino AZ Posts: 27,916 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Bloody Knuckles for me was the game where two people take turns keeping a quarter spinning and whoever stops it from spinning puts their knuckles on the table and the other person slides the quarter at their knuckles. Game is also known as quarters, but I think quarters is also used at the quarter bouncing game. One kid in Junior High had cut a quarter so it was almost like a ninja star that was used for the hardcore games.
 08-08-2017, 02:28 PM #1017 suchj0sh journeyman     Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 215 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Bloody Knuckles for me was just two dumb kids punching each others' fists until one cried uncle.
08-08-2017, 02:29 PM   #1018
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

I'm not crazy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_knuckles

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 There are different variations of the game. One variation, quarters, where two players use a coin, such as a quarter, that is spun around a flat surface (usually a table). The players continue to keep it spinning by flicking it with their fingers. The other player must touch it without causing it to stop spinning and fall on the heads or tails side. Then the person who spun the coin first tries to touch it next. This turn-taking continues until the coin falls. Whichever player's touch causes the spinning coin to stop and fall down is considered the loser, and they must put their knuckles on the playing surface. Then, the winner puts their thumb on the coin and forcefully pushes it across the table onto the loser's exposed knuckles.

08-08-2017, 05:23 PM   #1019
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by daveopie The big "card" game way back when I was in high school was "Bloody Knuckles".
I'm sure this will not come as a surprise to anyone but in high school the most hardcore card game we played was Hearts.

We tried Bridge at one point but hiding the open hand was logistically difficult (we used to play during math class, two of us would pretend to forget our books so we shared with our neighbor, and then we'd pass cards back and forth).

 08-08-2017, 05:29 PM #1020 callipygian slowrolled by tpiranha!     Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: but I don't know which Posts: 19,882 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) More random NC ****, my math teacher was a devout Muslim whose only experience with cards was when he moved to the US to study math and couldn't understand all the card-based probability questions. As he explained it, he went to the store and bought a deck of cards so he knew what they looked like and then afterwards immediately ripped them up and threw them away and prayed multiple times for Allah to forgive him. We ended up having a disproportionate number of probability questions involving 52 ping pong balls, each one colored with one of four colors and numbered 1-13.
08-08-2017, 05:42 PM   #1021
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by callipygian More random NC ****, my math teacher was a devout Muslim whose only experience with cards was when he moved to the US to study math and couldn't understand all the card-based probability questions. As he explained it, he went to the store and bought a deck of cards so he knew what they looked like and then afterwards immediately ripped them up and threw them away and prayed multiple times for Allah to forgive him. We ended up having a disproportionate number of probability questions involving 52 ping pong balls, each one colored with one of four colors and numbered 1-13.
Correct response to this would be to begin betting on ping pong ball popping machines IMO.

 08-08-2017, 06:07 PM #1022 leavesofliberty Carpal \'Tunnel   Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: probably busto Posts: 6,280 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Ignoring dead.money.
08-08-2017, 09:41 PM   #1023
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Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread)

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 Originally Posted by suchj0sh Bloody Knuckles for me was just two dumb kids punching each others' fists until one cried uncle.
This.

Quarters is bouncing a quarter into a shot glass everyone knows this.

 08-08-2017, 10:38 PM #1024 KL03 old hand   Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Where they don't respect my raises Posts: 1,351 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Is such a thing even possible?
 08-08-2017, 11:36 PM #1025 Howard Beale Formerly red     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Doing what my dog wants Posts: 21,794 Re: 2017 ustakes NC, where the steaks are wafer thin (Low Content Thread) Sometimes I mention that I don't need to make any balancing plays in my game. Here's what happened when I decided to try to 'show them something different' 10 or so days ago: Bunch of limpers, I call 5-3o otb, long story short I make a wheel on a paired board HU and raise his bet which he calls. Cards are shown and as the dealer is pushing me the pot 'trips' exclaims 'what are you doing? I have trips!', dealer says 'he has a straight', 'WHAT?' 'OH!' 'YOU PLAYED 5-3o?' 'YOU?' Today one of the players mentions the hand and another player says she'd heard about it which means that it'd come up for discussion at least once. Now I'm set for the entire rest of the year.

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