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Some fellow sits in the 8-16 and he looks vaguely familiar. Not even a semi-reg but I feel that I've played w/ him before. This hand comes up:

He raises UTG, bunch of callers, I call 7-7 BB.

Flop: A

. I check, he bets, folds around to me, I raise bec 'ZOMG!', he 3!s, I 4!, he calls.

Turn: A

. I bet, he shuffles his chips a bit and calls.

River: 2

. Bet, reluctant call, and I show. The fellow doesn't get mad but we have this conversation:

'You did the same thing to me 20 years ago w/ a pair of 4's. The same exact thing when I had A-K except it was 20-40 and it cost me a lot of money.'
'You remember a hand from 20 years ago and that it was me?'
'Yes, I think about it from time to time. You did the exact same thing w/ a pair of 4's.'

I know that I have a few very memorable hands but nothing as standard as this one and I wonder if similar stories might make a good LCP thread.

Fake news.

20 years ago you would have donked the flop so this can't be true.

07-25-2017 , 11:51 PM

#927

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by callipygian

Fake news.

20 years ago you would have donked the flop so this can't be true.

That's a good point.

07-26-2017 , 02:44 AM

#928

pig4bill

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You were playing poker in 1997??

07-26-2017 , 10:15 AM

#929

that_pope

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He was probably playing in 1987

07-26-2017 , 10:38 AM

#930

Howard Beale

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Casino poker since Resorts International opened their poker room in the early 90's. He mentioned one of the old CAZ locations, though, so it was probably more like 18 or so years ago.

07-26-2017 , 10:46 AM

#931

AlwaysFolding

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Where was that, Mr. Howard?

07-26-2017 , 10:52 AM

#932

callipygian

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Port Royale, Jamaica. Aye, those buccaneers sure knew how to shuffle doubloons.

07-26-2017 , 02:21 PM

#933

King Spew

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Quote:

Originally Posted by callipygian

Fake news.

20 years ago you would have donked the flop so this can't be true.

I don't know any of you guys...but I found this amusing. Thx

07-26-2017 , 02:40 PM

#934

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King Spew

I don't know any of you guys...but I found this amusing. Thx

The entire crew has been trying to get me to c/r all of my big flops out of the blinds and no matter how much I protest they lol at me so now I c/r.

The hand was probably played when poker was at the building at the McKellips location bec he mentioned the raised top section.

Last edited by Howard Beale; 07-26-2017 at 02:41 PM. Reason: I'm not THAT old, calli

07-26-2017 , 02:51 PM

#935

jdr0317

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On the bright side, Howard, donking sets MW >>>>>> check calling them

07-26-2017 , 02:53 PM

#936

callipygian

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I don't even remember the end of the whole donking sets debate. Didn't it come down to Howard erroneously thinking that if he led a set in an unraised pot it was donking?

07-26-2017 , 02:57 PM

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chillrob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by callipygian

I don't even remember the end of the whole donking sets debate. Didn't it come down to Howard erroneously thinking that if he led a set in an unraised pot it was donking?

That was only part of it; his standard seemed to be the actual donk in raised pots as well.

07-26-2017 , 04:42 PM

#938

bstillmatic

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On a scale of 1-10, how hard is it to beat the 8-16 @commerce for $8-9hr with the sky high rake? tks.

07-26-2017 , 04:59 PM

#939

KL03

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These go to 11.

07-26-2017 , 05:29 PM

#940

bstillmatic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KL03

These go to 11.

assuming someone plays TAG and has balanced ranges.

07-26-2017 , 05:31 PM

#941

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by callipygian

I don't even remember the end of the whole donking sets debate. Didn't it come down to Howard erroneously thinking that if he led a set in an unraised pot it was donking?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillrob

That was only part of it; his standard seemed to be the actual donk in raised pots as well.

Yah, I got the terminology wrong as well as the strat, at least as far as this crowd thinks. I've settled on 10% donking and 90% c/r.

07-26-2017 , 05:31 PM

#942

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bstillmatic

On a scale of 1-10, how hard is it to beat the 8-16 @commerce for $8-9hr with the sky high rake? tks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bstillmatic

assuming someone plays TAG and has balanced ranges.

How much is the rake and how does the game play? IOW, big action or not?

07-26-2017 , 05:34 PM

#943

chillrob

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I haven't played much in the Commerce 8/16, but I'm guessing having balanced ranges would likely be a handicap there, not a help.

07-26-2017 , 05:46 PM

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pig4bill

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Yah, I got the terminology wrong as well as the strat, at least as far as this crowd thinks. I've settled on 10% donking and 90% c/r.

So if you get out a notebook to see what you did the last 9 times we know you got a set?

07-26-2017 , 05:54 PM

#945

chillrob

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I think occasionally it is right to donk a set, depending on your position in relation to the preflop raiser, the board texture, and the tendencies of the players at the table. Might result in about 10% frequency.

07-26-2017 , 06:00 PM

#946

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chillrob

I haven't played much in the Commerce 8/16, but I'm guessing having balanced ranges would likely be a handicap there, not a help.

I have nearly completely eliminated balance in my game bec it's absolutely unnecessary. They don't care if you've shown big pairs or A-Face 95 out of the last 100 hands. I think that some of them take it as a challenge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig4bill

So if you get out a notebook to see what you did the last 9 times we know you got a set?

Not that easy. I do it w/ other type hands as well.

07-26-2017 , 09:29 PM

#947

Bob148

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Good evening everyone. I've been busy with real life stuff the past few weeks but things are settling down finally. So expect lots of trolling in the near future.

07-26-2017 , 10:03 PM

#948

callipygian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob148

So expect lots of trolling in the near future.

You haven't been posting recently.

Dead.money hasn't been posting recently.

Just sayin'.

07-26-2017 , 10:24 PM

#949

Bob148

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"I don't believe in coincidences." - Leroy Jethro Gibbs.

Couldn't find a good youtube moment of the man saying my favorite quote, but here's Ziva to make it all better with her quick wit and ninja skills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxH9QbTbhM

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