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Originally Posted by DTLB
Well if I don't 3b then I give him 5:1 to call while closing the action, which is not good for me. So by 3betting I at least give him the chance to fold and if he wants to call then that's ok too because my hand is ahead of his limping range so he's putting in more money while behind.
It takes extremely unlikely anyone will limp fold to a button raise and big blind 3-bet. You are better off assuming villain never folds and your 3-bet is for value. Live, I know 2-3 people who do the limp with a marginal hand (weak ace, small pocket pair, mid suited connect) and fold if raised and 3-bet.
Hand 1 my default is to b/c the flop when I 3-bet pre. You'll need to break down what villain's raising range is. This board is not too dynamic as the hands that beat you include pps and Qx. Let's discount button raising with lows cards. If villain is capable of raising his flush draws, or less than qx, then I'm more showdown bound.
Hand 2. Your flop donk check range in similar spots should be non-existent so you're probably 3-betting too wide if you feel you need to x/f.