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12-06-2019 , 07:27 PM
CO recently has been on some kind of aggro tilt, auto piloting the raise button. Other players seemed to have noticed that too.

I Flop TP and my question is:
do I Bet;Raise myself or should I let the maniac do it for me?
Kinda tricky 5 way hehe

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with J T
    UTG calls, MP calls, CO raises, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls

    Flop: (20.5 SB) 6 T 4 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, CO raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP caps, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls

    Turn: (20.3 BB) 2 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets, MP calls, CO raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls

    River: (30.3 BB) 3 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets, MP folds, CO raises, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, CO calls, Hero calls

    Spoiler:
    Results: 39.3 BB pot (0.3 BB rake)
    TBA
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    12-06-2019 , 07:36 PM
    I fold preflop. Without reads that these people are insane, I also fold turn
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    12-07-2019 , 11:22 AM
    Fold preflop. JTo isn't a great hand for this type of situation.

    Also, your read isn't very helpful. CO is only on third of players that have put in action. Maybe the other players have "noticed" but that's not a reason to think that suddenly everyone is crazy.

    I'd have 3-bet the flop. Maybe someone folds and that's huge for you.

    But as played, I might fold the turn facing two bets. It's not even clear that you have outs. If you're outkicked, you've only got 3 outs. If you're against a set, you've got none.
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    12-07-2019 , 04:38 PM
    How can you justify calling two cold on the river and then calling a 3bet after the original raiser on the river also calls the 3bet?

    Btw this is why I avoid this situation and fold pre.
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    12-08-2019 , 08:11 PM
    I can't, desperation call XD

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aaron W.
    Maybe the other players have "noticed" but that's not a reason to think that suddenly everyone is crazy.
    What I meant was that everybody's VPIP widened a lot because they wanted to play as many hands vs maniac as possible.
    He was honestly bonkers, Capping Flops and Turns with absolute thrash, capping Pre with 74s etc.

    What kind of hands would you get involved with?

    PS (lol):

    Spoiler:
    Results: 39.3 BB pot (0.3 BB rake)
    Final Board: 6 T 4 2 3
    BB mucked and lost (-6 BB net)
    UTG showed 5 5 and won 39 BB (30 BB net)
    MP mucked and lost (-6 BB net)
    CO mucked 7 T and lost (-9 BB net)
    Hero mucked J T and lost (-9 BB net)
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    12-09-2019 , 12:33 AM
    Spoiler:
    Wow those are some truly special players
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    12-09-2019 , 12:30 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pavulon
    What I meant was that everybody's VPIP widened a lot because they wanted to play as many hands vs maniac as possible.
    Saying everyone's VPIP has gone up isn't the same as saying that they're all going crazy. Having seen the results, you seem correct about the higher level of aggression that is implicit in your statement, but that's saying a lot more than just that the other players have "noticed" or that their VPIP has increased.

    I'm very curious about MP's hand. LRR preflop, bet-cap flop, fold river for one bet. Nothing makes a lot of sense to me, but he might have had a hand like QQ and gave up on it when the 4-straight came in.

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    What kind of hands would you get involved with?
    Basically, you want hands that flop good equity and are easy to play so that you can better hold on for the ride in a multiway pot. Think about it this way: What types of hands would you feel comfortable holding your nose and calling down with? I'm completely comfortable calling to the river with a flush draw and letting it go if it doesn't come in. I'm pretty comfortable calling to the river with a top pair hand with a weaker kicker in this type of situation. I'm not going to do that with second pair and a mediocre kicker.
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    12-09-2019 , 07:08 PM
    Got it, thanks everyone
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    12-13-2019 , 10:11 AM
    I'm not exactly sure how good you are, but given what I think your skill level is, a quick tip for 6Max would be to stop cold-calling. Just don't do it.
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    12-15-2019 , 06:56 PM
    I could be wrong but imo vs player pool skill level at $0.02/$0.04 I don't have to be perfectly balanced
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    12-15-2019 , 11:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pavulon
    I could be wrong but imo vs player pool skill level at $0.02/$0.04 I don't have to be perfectly balanced
    Probably not. But it doesn't hurt to be able to think that way, especially if you have any ambition to move up.
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