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Old 07-21-2015, 09:05 AM   #151
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Oh right, it makes sense, I haven't thought about that in the first place. Cheers !
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:42 AM   #152
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

I get an error when I want to download the file. Is it still possible to get SwongSim?
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:12 AM   #153
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It works okay for me. Is the error in downloading or in running the program after download?
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:13 AM   #154
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By the way, this is the link you want, just in case you were trying to use the old link from the original post.

www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0
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Old 07-27-2015, 10:24 AM   #155
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Thanks, had the wrong link
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:14 PM   #156
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thx for the link i was having the same problem
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:41 PM   #157
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Jackpot Sit n Gos with $0.30-12 buy-ins have just appeared at PKR.com:



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Old 08-28-2015, 07:25 PM   #158
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Thanks. I'll get those in withing the next couple days.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:15 AM   #159
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www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0

Added PKR Jackpot Sit&Gos to the preset list.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:22 PM   #160
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Hi mate! Thanks for awesome app!

Are you sure you have right MP structure on 50s in Pokerstars.fr?

Cause on site there are different structures to each limit.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:36 PM   #161
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Hi mate! Thanks for awesome app!

Are you sure you have right MP structure on 50s in Pokerstars.fr?

Cause on site there are different structures to each limit.
Thanks for the info.

www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0

Updated for PokerStars.fr 50 and 100.
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:23 AM   #162
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3072

Cheers Max!
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:52 PM   #163
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www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0

Updated PokerStars Spin&Go preset for new top tier.
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Old 10-17-2015, 08:03 AM   #164
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Hi Guys, when I set up ITM% for 36.79 SwongSwim show me that my Expected ROI should be 4.8% but my pt4 spinEVroi is 3.98% which I believe is correct as my chipEV/game is 47.27 . I counted manually (link below) and yes, pt4 results are correct one.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...*3%29-1%29*100

Can somebody explain please why SwongSwim Expected ROI differs from pt4 spinEVroi ?
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:52 AM   #165
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Hi Guys, when I set up ITM% for 36.79 SwongSwim show me that my Expected ROI should be 4.8% but my pt4 spinEVroi is 3.98% which I believe is correct as my chipEV/game is 47.27 . I counted manually (link below) and yes, pt4 results are correct one.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...*3%29-1%29*100

Can somebody explain please why SwongSwim Expected ROI differs from pt4 spinEVroi ?
Thanks for the question. The SwongSim number is the correct one.

The first issue is a small error in your ITM% calculation. It should be 36.48467% ((47.27 + 500) / 1500). With this corrected ITM% (1st-place finish rate), SwongSim calculates the expected ROI to be 3.934% (which it rounds to 3.9%).

This is slightly lower than PT4 because the PT4 stat does not account for the top 3 tiers paying 3 places and SwongSim does. This can be verified by changing the top 3 tiers in SwongSim to be winner-take-all, in which case you will get the same result as the PT4 stat.
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Old 10-17-2015, 10:06 AM   #166
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Thanks for your quick answer. Indeed, the problem with ITM% was coming form my side, but not because of wrong calculation. I just copy ITM% from pt4 but I forgot that it is based on real chips won and not ev chips won. shame on me!
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Old 10-17-2015, 10:19 AM   #167
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Haha, something I would do too.

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:42 AM   #168
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Stars' promotional $1M Spin multiplier structure has changed in favour of the 4x-6x multipliers at the $5 level , in comparison with the previous runs of the promo. ($0.50s/$5s are temporary, their rake is 8%/7%.)

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:50 AM   #169
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gadzooks! ty, sir

www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0

Updated PokerStars Spin&Go $5 Million and added the $0.50 Million.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:43 PM   #170
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Added the current WPN Jackpot satellites.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:23 PM   #171
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Great software, really like it.
Is there possible to add our chipev won, how many games this is over, then it tells us our chipev/game and also expected ROI?
To then plug to all variance graphs output you have made?
Thanks
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Old 12-06-2015, 02:00 PM   #172
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Hey RonaldoVamos - I'll see what I can come up with. I'm thinking a popup for entering total EV chips won or EV chips per game and that would be used to determine 1st-place finish %. The only issue is that it doesn't generalize to other formats which are included as presets (for example 6max with 65/35 payouts).
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Old 12-06-2015, 04:59 PM   #173
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Hey RonaldoVamos - I'll see what I can come up with. I'm thinking a popup for entering total EV chips won or EV chips per game and that would be used to determine 1st-place finish %. The only issue is that it doesn't generalize to other formats which are included as presets (for example 6max with 65/35 payouts).
That would be awesome
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Old 12-06-2015, 06:55 PM   #174
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www.dropbox.com/s/ukpadqy24se12th/SwongSim.exe?dl=0
  • Added option to calculate 1st-place finish % from expected chips per game or total expected chips.


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Old 12-06-2015, 07:18 PM   #175
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Re: SwongSim -- ROI/variance simulator for lottery-payout SNGs (2k post)

Thanks for this option , but as of now, it adjusts only the first place %, which throws the total finish % off balance (1st + 2nd + 3rd stops being 100%) and results in a lot of red colour. It's a minor issue because it essentially affects only rare top jackpots and doesn't alter the sims too much, but adjustment of the 2nd and 3rd place % would be great (if the 1st place freq is increased by x%, then decrease both the 2nd and 3rd place freq-s by (x/2)% or proportionally so that their total change is -x%.)

You could also make an option of filling the 2nd and 3rd place fields automatically, i.e. if the 1st place % is filled (x%), make the 2nd and 3rd place ones both equal to [(100-x)/2]%.
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