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Old 03-09-2012, 10:29 AM   #176
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

This SSC dont work
When i started i recieved eror for Microsoft.Net Framework.
When i click continie when click any button it apear again this error.
What to do?
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:50 PM   #177
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

Is this software still available? does anyone know similar products?
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:22 PM   #178
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This SSC dont work
When i started i recieved eror for Microsoft.Net Framework.
When i click continie when click any button it apear again this error.
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I get the same problem.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:44 PM   #179
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

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This SSC dont work
When i started i recieved eror for Microsoft.Net Framework.
When i click continie when click any button it apear again this error.
What to do?
Take a look at post #72, #76 and #88.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:56 PM   #180
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

I have ported the app over to the iPhone.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/no-l...ng/id596472034

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Old 02-04-2013, 04:53 PM   #181
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I have ported the app over to the iPhone.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/no-l...ng/id596472034

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So this means that SSS calculator don't exists anymore for PC ?
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:54 PM   #182
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So this means that SSS calculator don't exists anymore for PC ?
Correct.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:08 PM   #183
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Correct.
So, if I dont have an iphone i canīt do anything ?. Are you planning to launch it for android?
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:16 AM   #184
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

I understand it's a nominal price, but why isn't this in commercial software if it's not available for PC and has a fee associated?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:50 PM   #185
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

For 3 bucks I snap called this app for my iPad. When I played rush this Was my game, 40bb and a lot of overshoves on late openers.

One thing here, this app is so basic. Is it not important to input our position? Things will vary quite a bit from being the BB, SB, and out of the blinds.

Also what does "win % to call" mean?
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:18 PM   #186
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So, if I dont have an iphone i canīt do anything ?. Are you planning to launch it for android?
Probably not.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:23 PM   #187
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For 3 bucks I snap called this app for my iPad. When I played rush this Was my game, 40bb and a lot of overshoves on late openers.

One thing here, this app is so basic. Is it not important to input our position? Things will vary quite a bit from being the BB, SB, and out of the blinds.

Also what does "win % to call" mean?
I am working to add the positions. There is not enough real estate on the iPhone 4 to put it. It may only be available for the iPhone 5 and iPad.

Win % to call = % required for the play to be profitable. It looks at each hands winning percentage and color codes it based upon being above or below the Win % to call.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:20 AM   #188
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

Sorry, I am still confused by it, can you give me an example?
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:32 PM   #189
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Sorry, I am still confused by it, can you give me an example?
It is an EV calculation. If the opponent will call your raise 40% of the time, then...
60% = You win the pot uncontested
40% = You go to showdown
Each starting hand's is compared to determine if the 60% taking the raise and blinds + the 40% hand equity is profitable.

The % shown in the app is the percentage required vs your opponent's range (that you set) to be +EV.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:54 PM   #190
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So this means that SSS calculator don't exists anymore for PC ?
It still exists. Finding a place to download it is the problem. If you can find the file it will still work.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:34 PM   #191
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It still exists. Finding a place to download it is the problem. If you can find the file it will still work.
anyone have the file?
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:10 AM   #192
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I would be interested in the file too.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:33 PM   #193
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me too please
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:50 PM   #194
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

ny jet why dont you just sell the windowsversion , looks like people are willing to pay money for that .
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:38 PM   #195
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

ny jet,
I just got a couple questions..

So I was playing around with the SSS calculator and wanted to personally test the info it was telling me by manually plugging a certain situation into the FE equation. So I wanted to test the borderline hands it said to fold/jam with. Here is the scenario I ran. We are in BB, 40BB effective, facing an UTG minraise from a 13.1% range. I found the optimal calling range for villain if we shoved, and here is a screenshot of the scenario plugged in in the SSS calculator.



So I tested AKo and it did turn out to be a +EV jam which would show +1.15BB in EV.

I then decided to test TT since it was a fold according to the chart and it had the highest equity vs villain's calling range vs all the other hands we should be folding.



TT has 41.27% equity, and villain's equity is 58.73%

Fold Equity Equation

EV = XP+(1-X)(WH-LV)
where,
X = folding frequency
P = pot size
W = amount won
H = our equity
L = amount lost
V = opponent's equity

[99+, AQs, AKo] makes up 4.2% of hands - meaning our FE is (13.1-4.2)/13.1 OR 67.94%

When we shove, we risk 39BB to win the pot of 3.5BB.

When we shove and get called and win, we win 3.5BB from the pot and 39BB from villain for 42.5BB total.

When we shove and get called and lose, we lose 39BB.

So,
EV = XP+(1-X)(WH-LV)
EV = (.6794)(3.5)+(1-.6794)[(42.5)(.4127)-(39)(.5873)]
EV = 2.3779 + (0.3206) [ 17.54 - 22.9 ]
EV = 2.3779 + (0.3206)(-5.36)
EV = 2.3779 - 1.72
EV = +0.66BB

So according to this (and I double checked my math - you're welcome to as well), we CAN shove TT for +EV in this situation. The SSS calculator says we can't.

I also wonder how and why 99+, AQs+, AKo is the optimal calling range for villain (not for just this hand specifically - but how do you determine what the optimal calling range is in a situation like this?) And does this mean that if we min open UTG and it folds to BB and he shoves, and he's an unknown, we should be calling with this range until we get more info on villain and then adjust it accordingly?

Thanks!
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:23 AM   #196
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Re: Short Stacking Strategy (SSS) Calculator

There is a slight mistake in my math as we win 38BB + 3.5BB in the pot = 41.5 (not 39BB + 3.5BB in pot = 42.5BB) since we only win an additional 38BB from villain's stack when he calls as he's already got 2BB in.

But the answer still comes to +.53BB when the math is fixed - still making it a +EV shove.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:47 PM   #197
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TT has 41.27% equity, and villain's equity is 58.73%

Fold Equity Equation

EV = XP+(1-X)(WH-LV)
where,
X = folding frequency
P = pot size
W = amount won
H = our equity
L = amount lost
V = opponent's equity

[99+, AQs, AKo] makes up 4.2% of hands - meaning our FE is (13.1-4.2)/13.1 OR 67.94%

When we shove, we risk 39BB to win the pot of 3.5BB.

When we shove and get called and win, we win 3.5BB from the pot and 39BB from villain for 42.5BB total.

When we shove and get called and lose, we lose 39BB.

So,
EV = XP+(1-X)(WH-LV)
EV = (.6794)(3.5)+(1-.6794)[(42.5)(.4127)-(39)(.5873)]
EV = 2.3779 + (0.3206) [ 17.54 - 22.9 ]
EV = 2.3779 + (0.3206)(-5.36)
EV = 2.3779 - 1.72
EV = +0.66BB

So according to this (and I double checked my math - you're welcome to as well), we CAN shove TT for +EV in this situation. The SSS calculator says we can't.
Your formula does not account for the rake.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:54 PM   #198
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That is true. But if we're playing high enough, where $3 is less than .53BB, then a shove is still best. What stakes does the calculator assume we're playing?
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:34 PM   #199
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That is true. But if we're playing high enough, where $3 is less than .53BB, then a shove is still best. What stakes does the calculator assume we're playing?
It was designed for low stakes online games. $.10/$.25-$2-$4...back in the day.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:51 AM   #200
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Correct.
lol that is stupid
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