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02-11-2008 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryTheGoat
SSS1.1 shows 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,A7o+,KJo+ for me with:

36.0 Steal Range
19.8 Call Range
Raise size 3.5
Effective 18.5

gTg
When shortstacking, I find that having 18.5 bb's is the most common scenario. You don't usually get a reshove-worthy hand your first time posting the sb/bb anyways.
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02-11-2008 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by a nonymous
You may have already seen this, but Everlong recently released a Bubble Factor Calculator.
I plan to calculate up to 10 seats vs his 4 seats.
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02-11-2008 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
Uh this doesnt work for your calc.
I'm not sure what you mean.
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02-11-2008 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Somnius
Anyway it can acknowledge rake? You can acknowledge blinds by simply increasing the raise amount of the villain accordingly, but you can't acknowledge rake, if you set it to 19 when you're actually pushing 20, then winning will be accurate after rake, but the losing calculation will be inaccurate. Can you work in 5 percent rake?...
I'll look in to this.
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02-11-2008 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by New York Jet
I plan to calculate up to 10 seats vs his 4 seats.
IIRC it only doesn't do more than 4 due to CPU usage. I suppose this and that target different situations tho (Tourney bubble Vs. Cash shortstack) - so they are not really attacking the same problem? am I wrong (again)?

Oh, I just noticed "Kill Everyone" is in the Stars FPP store click-click
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02-11-2008 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Oh, I just noticed "Kill Everyone" is in the Stars FPP store click-click
It's a great book - prolly the best I've read for a few years.

Juk
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02-11-2008 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
IIRC it only doesn't do more than 4 due to CPU usage. I suppose this and that target different situations tho (Tourney bubble Vs. Cash shortstack) - so they are not really attacking the same problem? am I wrong (again)?
You're right. My ICM calc does not involve cash games.
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02-11-2008 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
It's a great book - prolly the best I've read for a few years.

Juk
ty - on it's way then

somehow it is so much less effort than to get out the credit card or actually visit Borders... FPP store
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02-12-2008 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by New York Jet
I'm not sure what you mean.
BB can call.

Basically impossible to do with a calc though, shoving w/ people behind is the most annoying calcs to do.
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02-12-2008 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
BB can call.

Basically impossible to do with a calc though, shoving w/ people behind is the most annoying calcs to do.
Ahh, so do you use/agree with donkeydevastation here:

Short Stack Poker Strategy Guide Part 5 - Facing a Raise

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...Hand 3: Average UTG at a six handed table raises 4x. Folded to you on the button.

Here we also have to worry about one of the blinds possibly picking up a monster and calling our push...

...Fortunately, since a blind calls only 5% of the time, you should primarily focus on the correct strategy against UTG in this scenario and simply approximate the impact the blinds will have. So let’s make an assumption, based on the idea of perturbation theory. Since getting called by a blind is far worse, as they are playing against you with top 2.6% instead of top ~6%, let’s assume you lose twice as much in that spot. So the equation is now...
?

gTg
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02-12-2008 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
BB can call.
In this case, I don't think it makes much of a difference. If the original raiser was UTG and I was UTG+1, it would make a significant difference.

I bet if you added 4% to the calling range for each player left to act, it would be close to accurate.
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02-12-2008 , 11:02 PM
That guide is LOL. Here is a pretty good rule of thumb: if someone is posting about shortstacking, they don't have a clue about it.
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02-12-2008 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosh
That guide is LOL. Here is a pretty good rule of thumb: if someone is posting about shortstacking, they don't have a clue about it.
What about the M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread?
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02-12-2008 , 11:08 PM
The M2TR thread won't make anyone better than breakeven unless they do a few dozen hours of studying on their own.

Edit: Well it might be enough to make a marginal winner for a FR shortstacker.
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02-12-2008 , 11:16 PM
I'm pretty sure M2TR barely beats .5/1 full ring shortstacking.
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02-13-2008 , 12:57 AM
Who can I pay to teach me?
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02-13-2008 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by a nonymous
Who can I pay to teach me?
no1 you have to figure it out on your own,,,
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02-13-2008 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by blackize
The M2TR thread won't make anyone better than breakeven unless they do a few dozen hours of studying on their own.

Edit: Well it might be enough to make a marginal winner for a FR shortstacker.
for the record, I know of exactly 5 people who have used my lessons in that thread to beat mid-stakes 6max games (400NL to 1000NL) for a pretty decent clip

perhaps there are anonymous others

I, myself, suck as Kurosh pointed out
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02-13-2008 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
I was tempted to shunt that post to MSNL - your thread New York Jet,.. thoughts?
Sure. It would be interesting to see if I am the only one that feels this way. I would hope not.
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02-13-2008 , 11:39 PM
done.

also deleted mine and your threads here referencing it.
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03-01-2008 , 12:13 AM
I tried this on 2 systems, keeps crashing all the time:

"System.FormatException:
System.Number.StringToNumber(String str, NumberStyles options, NumberBuffer& number, NumberFormatInfo info, Boolean parseDecimal)
kohteessa System.Number.ParseDouble(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
kohteessa System.Double.Parse(String s, NumberStyles style, NumberFormatInfo info)
kohteessa System.Convert.ToDouble(String value)
kohteessa a.a()
kohteessa a.e(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.ScrollBar.OnValueChanged(Even tArgs e)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.ScrollBar.set_Value(Int32 value)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.ScrollBar.DoScroll(ScrollEven tType type)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.ScrollBar.WmReflectScroll(Mes sage& m)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.ScrollBar.WndProc(Message& m)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.O nMessage(Message& m)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.W ndProc(Message& m)
kohteessa System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ..."

etc. Each and everytime I try to adjust a slider it wont work, any suggestions? Tried windows vista and xp.
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03-01-2008 , 09:39 AM
Maybe this will fix it????

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Cause



There is an incorrect value in the following value in the Windows registry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International\sPositiveSign

This value should be empty for most English Language settings. Note that when this error occurs, the value may appear empty visually, but may contain a space or unprintable character. Back to the top

Resolution



While it is possible to directly edit the value for the problem key, the preferred method is to change the Regional Settings to a different Region/Language and then reset it to the desired setting:

1. Open the Regional and Language Options applet from the Control Panel.
2. Note the Current Format.
3. Change the Current Format to English (Australian)
4. Click Apply.
5. Change the Current Format to the noted format, eg, English (American).
6. Click Apply and then click OK.

This action resets every value under the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International registry key.
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03-13-2008 , 09:13 AM
Thanks for this. Just to clarify -

1) There is 1.5 BB of dead money from the blinds included in the pot?
2) Win % Needed to Call = the equity hero needs against vilain's call range?

Thx
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03-13-2008 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tagWAG
Thanks for this. Just to clarify -

1) There is 1.5 BB of dead money from the blinds included in the pot?
2) Win % Needed to Call = the equity hero needs against vilain's call range?

Thx
1) Yes
2) Yes
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03-27-2008 , 08:45 AM
hello, my computer says i have a .net framework error when i try and run this program how do i solve this?
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