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12-18-2008 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
I uploaded a vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L5Ia-2oIsA. Is this what you're getting? btw, you can edit your hud.xml file to solve this the hacky way.
Nope, that is not what I am getting. When I click on another seat, I get nothing. After I move the mouse away a partial shadow of the red check mark appears and quickly disappears. And, the actual stats always appear in seat #1 so I have to manually move every players around the table. (In my case two seats). I will try modding the HUD file and see how well I can mess it up.

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Also, the files moving only after a manual import is the expected behavior. Simply put, moving files while live import is running is impossible, because PokerStars is trying to access some of those files to write the HH while PokerHands is trying to move the same files.
Maybe triggering an import after stopping the live import would be a more understandable behavior for the users.
Well, since it won't move "live import" files, even after stopping the live imports and doing a manual import, how about this. A simple button in the area of the "move files" screen that says, "Move Files Now". Then, we can move them any time we feel like it. I don't mind it not "auto-moving" the HH's that are already in the database. As long as there's a simple click of the mouse to make them move.
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12-18-2008 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
Is anyone else having this problem? It will not let me select any other seat other than the default #1 seat
My preferred seating has been working fine. I can select any seat on all of the tables.

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Yes it was supposed to be calculated that way but it was buggy because the calculation of the ATS opportunity wasn't right. So:
ATS: (total open raises from CO or BTN) / (total open raise opportunities from CO/BTN)
FoldSB: (total fold SB when facing steal) / (total SB defense opportunities)
FoldBB: (total fold BB when facing steal) / (total BB defense opportunities)
Thanks for clarifying. For FoldBB, are small blind steal raises included, or just steal raises from the CO or BTN?

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Simply put, moving files while live import is running is impossible, because PokerStars is trying to access some of those files to write the HH while PokerHands is trying to move the same files.
Maybe triggering an import after stopping the live import would be a more understandable behavior for the users.
Automatically moving all HH's whenever PokerHands is shut down might be good too.


The HUD has been fairly stable for me. After I changed the configuration, I had some problems getting it started and got a few "PokerHands has encountered a problem and needs to close..." messages. But after a few restarts and a few more HUD configuration changes, I was able to get it going. Several times, after 1 or 2 hands, the HUD would disapear as soon as the action got to me, but would then reappear after 1 or 2 more hands.
Sometimes the HUD would "blink" for a moment when the action go to me.
The Continuation Bet stat for 5CD reads 100% for everybody, but I think this is an old bug from the previous version. There were no CPU problems. I was able to set up 4 lines with 4 different stats in each line and was able to change # formats without any problems. I haven't messed with the colors, yet. All the testing I did was on 5CD.
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12-19-2008 , 01:48 AM
Tony,

First, I figured out how to edit the hud.xml and even managed to do it right on the "seat position" problem. One weird thing... when I went to save it, it told me the path did not exist...sigh. So, I just saved it to another directory and drag and dropped it. It did change my stats position correctly. Here's a pic of what I am seeing in the configure screen.



You can see what I mean. It seems to be the same issue as the replayer where it is off the screen somewhat. That may be why I couldn't change positions. I was trying to click on the seat, which was actually "off screen" by an inch or so. Oh well, got it to work.

Next.. I figured out (duhhh) that clicking on "new line", creates a new line.

Seems to all work. Although, I do have to reposition the stats for every table I open, even if I come back it doesn't remember. On a similar note, it is not redrawing properly. The stats constantly disappear. If I click on the screen, they redraw fine.

One unusual thing. It appears to be picking up ALL my HH in the database, but only the session figures for the players. "Maybe" that's because I picked a game for testing I don't normally play, all new players??? Is it picking up all HH in the database for a player?

The move up/down arrow is a must for the stats configuration screen. Also, IMHO, lack of position memory is a pain in the a$$.

In general, it looks really good and is coming along. However, I can't seem to find the tabs for OmahaO8

Keep up the good work, but mainly just keep up the work!!
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12-19-2008 , 02:01 AM
One more thought...

In my personal stats, it appears in the stat "money won$", it shows my totals (at least I noticed it on Holdem which is all I tested) for all levels of play. I assume it also groups the other players stats without regard to size of the game. You're the programmer, but it would be useful to compare apples to apples.

I go into a .02/.04 HE with a friend of mine each evening, playing head up and just goofing around. It appears to just group that play with all my "serious" play. You would not want to see how high my VP$IP is because of that distortion.

We all play a little faster and looser when dropping substantially in levels for fun, or to blow off steam from a bigger game. How hard would it be to have the option, or by default, to only show stats at the same levels of the same game?
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12-19-2008 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
The stats constantly disappear. If I click on the screen, they redraw fine.

One unusual thing. It appears to be picking up ALL my HH in the database, but only the session figures for the players. "Maybe" that's because I picked a game for testing I don't normally play, all new players??? Is it picking up all HH in the database for a player?
I'm also experiencing "disappearing stats". It still happens after the 1st hand when the action gets to me, but then the HUD reappears the next hand.

For me, all players' stats include their entire history, not just the current session. It's probably because you're testing on the micro limits.


Once I get things going, it's very stable. The transparancy code for background color given earlier looks very good, but when it's transparent, you can't "grab" the panels to move them or right-click to see the additional stats. Also, the transparancy slider bar makes the entire panel more transparent, including the stats. I know you said both of these are still in development. Background and text color changes went smoothly.
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12-19-2008 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Clemenza
For me, all players' stats include their entire history, not just the current session. It's probably because you're testing on the micro limits.
That's what it was. I had no history. When I went back to $1/$2 Badugi and played with PH and the HUD, the players with a lot of history showed it all. It works great with just some minor flaws, like the redraw issue. and permanent memory of stat location.

Mine is running well tonight as well. And, Tony, I was right about the seat position changing. Once I wandered off the standard screen, the red check mark appeared where it "thought" the seat was, and it allowed me to accept it.
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12-19-2008 , 10:40 AM
Dog - Is your Vista set on 120 dpi font scaling? I know other trackers such as HM had severe display alignment problems when vista users had it set to 120 instead of the default 96 dpi.

http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...a-dpi-scaling/
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12-19-2008 , 12:02 PM
Concerning the moving files issue, I'll think I'll go with something close to what fozzy suggested: if the last timestamp of the file is older than 2 days: move.

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"PokerHands has encountered a problem and needs to close..." messages.
Could you please make a screenshot of this and tell me when it happens?

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One unusual thing. It appears to be picking up ALL my HH in the database, but only the session figures for the players. "Maybe" that's because I picked a game for testing I don't normally play, all new players??? Is it picking up all HH in the database for a player?
That's right, if you're playing Hold'Em, it picks up all the HH available for Hold'Em. I agree this is wrong if you're playing heads up then fullring, your stats are all messed up. Next version will only show the stats for the limit you're playing.

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The transparancy code for background color given earlier looks very good, but when it's transparent, you can't "grab" the panels to move them or right-click to see the additional stats.
Yep, the transparency color makes the hud transparent for the mouse; this is the correct behavior for layered windows and I agree it's kinda hard to click on the hud -you have to click on the numbers . I don't think this is going to change, so a little text element with a non-transparent background might be a good idea. I'm willing to ship the hud with several pre-configured themes so you can see what you can do with it.

dog: now that fozzy points this out, your problem is clearly related to your higher dpi. I've never been confronted with this issue, but you should run in 96dpi (right click on pokerhands.exe/properties, I think there's a "run this application in 96dpi somewhere in Vista).
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12-19-2008 , 12:45 PM
Just created a new DB and reimported all my old HHs, and they all imported as 50c/1 limit, even tho more than half of what I played has been 25c/50c. It also missed 60 hands, when compared to my original DB.
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12-19-2008 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Dog - Is your Vista set on 120 dpi font scaling? I know other trackers such as HM had severe display alignment problems when vista users had it set to 120 instead of the default 96 dpi.

http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...a-dpi-scaling/
That did it!! That fixed all my display problems. The replayer is all aligned now. The config screen for PS tables are all aligned and I can check and change the seats. Way to go. I had changed that for the larger images. The bad side of that... I had to go manually change all my settings for fonts and icons so I could see them.
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12-19-2008 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Concerning the moving files issue, I'll think I'll go with something close to what fozzy suggested: if the last timestamp of the file is older than 2 days: move.
That's better, two days. Otherwise, you have the problem, since I like to play late, that during the midnight hour you get the crossover day.

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Next version will only show the stats for the limit you're playing.
Much better.

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dog: now that fozzy points this out, your problem is clearly related to your higher dpi. I've never been confronted with this issue, but you should run in 96dpi (right click on pokerhands.exe/properties, I think there's a "run this application in 96dpi somewhere in Vista).
Fozzy's answer of running worked perfect. Vista does have a screen, under properties for the Pokerhands.exe file. However, when I tried checking the box to ignore higher dpi settings, PH still went berzerk on the screens. I've included a screen shot since you're not running Vista.

As you will note from the screen shot, since you wrote this on a XP, I have checked the box under "Capatibility Mode" to run this as a XP service pack 2 program. That seems to fix all the little issues. And as you are well aware, I "run as administrator"



For Vista users: Click on Control Panel, then "Personalization". On the upper left-hand side of that screen will be the link "Adjust Font Size (DPI)". After you click on that link a box will pop up with the choices of "96" or "120" or "custom". Just click "96". It will request a reboot. I suggest you do that immediately.

Then to adjust other programs/windows that will all adjust to the new 96dpi, they will have to go to "Control Panel", then "Personalization", then "Window Color and Appearance", to adjust fonts, window bar sizes, etc.

Tony, feel free to use any screen shots I send you in Help screens, Tutorials or anything else. I give you full rights for as little use as they may be in the future.
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12-19-2008 , 04:08 PM
Had 2 PH crashes during a 1 hour badugi session. And I got owned with every dealt 7 hi I had.
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12-19-2008 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Had 2 PH crashes during a 1 hour badugi session. And I got owned with every dealt 7 hi I had.
With all the rebuilding of databases and such, sounds like it's defrag time. BTW, Fozzy, I use a GREAT defrag shareware (30 days, then $14.99), but if you wait till the near end of the 30 days they discount it to $8.99 , program that I've used without a problem for two years. It does "live defrags" any time it senses your computer is idle. If you want to check it out. Here's the link. Sorry for the thread drift.

http://www2.ashampoo.com/webcache/ht...t_2_0144__.htm
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12-19-2008 , 04:59 PM
I use PerfectDisk every week. I also reindex/vac/analyze thru pgadmin at least once a month. I just reformatted 2 weeks ago, and then just defragged 2 days ago.
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12-19-2008 , 05:55 PM
If you have the time, screenshot the errors (I know it's not always easy as you have hands to play...). Also, you can send me one of the files you reported with the limit wrongly tagged at support@cartridgesoftware.com.
PokerHands' crashes shouldn't be linked with highly fragmented data. In the worst case scenario, the query would just take like 10 times the normal time to execute, which would still be fast enough.

Concerning Vista, well I still need to run the program on it to check all the errors with the debugger on, but thank you for your report dog.
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12-19-2008 , 05:59 PM
I did sorta try to copy/paste the error of the text the 2nd time, but was unsuccessful. I will screengrab it next time. It imported all (almost 2k) of the 25c/50c limits wrong when I started a new DB (I wanted to see how PH handled larger bulk imports). My first DB that I have been using has been working fine, as far as I know, for keeping track of the limits. I already deleted the messed up DB, and have rebooted etc. I was going to try a new DB and bulk import again, at some point.
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12-19-2008 , 06:58 PM


It "seems" that the VP$IP is computing wrong on the HUD stats while at a table. I was playing Badugi and it showed my VPIP as "44" percent and it caught my attention. I could not believe it was that high. So, I went to the summary of Badugi right after the session. As you can see, none of the three games summarized has a VPIP of over 30, 28 and 22 respectively.

Even I can figure out that you can't have an average of 44 with those numbers.

And my win% on the table stats showed something 14%...sigh. I know it's higher just by looking at the table for the stat "w$ws1d", I figure it should be in the 40% area. IMHO, the stats above seem correct, it's only the HUD display that seems to be picking them up wrong. The above table is all my Badugi play at all levels at this point.

Last edited by 1meandog4u; 12-19-2008 at 07:04 PM.
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12-19-2008 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
herr, some more questions I forgot to answer


The format shouldn't be changed most of the time "0.0" means that you'll have 1 number after the decimal separator, so that your computed VPIP of 12.321704 appears as 12.3. "0.00" would produce "12.32" etc.
If you want to add some text to have something like: VPIP: 12.3, just add a "(Text)" item before the stat.
See if I understand this correct: If I change the format to "0." instead of "0.0" it will drop the information after the decimal point and in essence give me the whole number only? (less bulk on some stats).

And if I wish to put text in like "(AF)" in front of the number it would produce something like "AF 6" or whatever the whole number. Do I need to put a space inside the text to separate the text from the numbers, or outside the "( )" but before the number 0.0? Thanks for the help.
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12-19-2008 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Concerning the moving files issue, I'll think I'll go with something close to what fozzy suggested: if the last timestamp of the file is older than 2 days: move.
This does sound like the best idea. I think it would eliminate that annoying problem of "duplicate" HH's being moved to an archive folder.

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Next version will only show the stats for the limit you're playing.
Can this be user customized? The ability to group several limits into a single range of limits would be useful. For example, all limits below $1/2 could be included in a "low limit" range, etc.


I'll post that error message shortly.
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12-19-2008 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
See if I understand this correct: If I change the format to "0." instead of "0.0" it will drop the information after the decimal point and in essence give me the whole number only? (less bulk on some stats).
Yes. I tried it. It's nice.

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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
And if I wish to put text in like "(AF)" in front of the number it would produce something like "AF 6" or whatever the whole number. Do I need to put a space inside the text to separate the text from the numbers, or outside the "( )" but before the number 0.0? Thanks for the help.
I don't think so, I think Tony was referring to the "(Text)" option in the catagories list. Adding "(Text)" before (or maybe after) each stat catagory will add the appropriate label to each stat on the HUD.
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12-19-2008 , 07:52 PM

I sometimes get this message when the HUD is first appearing on a table. Usually, I can see each HUD panel display the stat categories, instead of the data itself, for a fraction of a second, as each HUD panel appears, and then quickly each panel will replace the categories and show the data. Sometimes, 1 or 2 panels don't show the data and continue to show only the categories. This seems to happen most often with the #1 and #2 seats. When this happens, I get the error message above. The only fix I've found, is to close PH and reboot my PC. This happens about half the time I start a new table, regardless of weather I've had success with the HUD at other tables earlier in the session.

I tried getting a screenshot of the whole table and the HUD including the panels with no data, but my screenshot software won't capture the HUD at all, even when everything is working properly.
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12-19-2008 , 08:25 PM
The HUD is pretty much unusable at this point for me. It crashed PH as soon as the HUD came up. I tried it again 5 minutes later, and PH ran/imported fine, until I started the HUD.




Last edited by fozzy71; 12-19-2008 at 08:26 PM. Reason: Didnt actually look at the errors til just now, to see that it is the same error each time.
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12-19-2008 , 09:55 PM
I'm sorry to hear that fozzy. The thing is: I've never coded those error messages. So it's some intern crap going on here.
I'm pretty unhappy with how unstable the hud is. I integrated it as close as possible to the way Windows work, that's why it has a very low memory/cpu consumption when running, but on the other side, all that very low level programming stuff creates a pretty unstable thing. I'm going to completely rewrite the way the hud works.

Dog: you can't write something like "VPIP: 0.0" in the format field because "format" is only the number's format. You have to add a (Text) item and then the VP$IP.

Anyway I'll keep you updated with my progress.

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Can this be user customized? The ability to group several limits into a single range of limits would be useful. For example, all limits below $1/2 could be included in a "low limit" range, etc.
I could add an option to select all the HH or the limit currently being played only, but creating different groups would be a little more difficult to implement. That's a good suggestion, but I don't think it will be included in the next release.
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12-20-2008 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Dog: you can't write something like "VPIP: 0.0" in the format field because "format" is only the number's format. You have to add a (Text) item and then the VP$IP.
I understand now. I never paid attention to the "text" in the catagories. thanks. The good news is... my HUD (knock on wood) has been stable so far. Could it actually be Vista is being good?

Will you be making some of the other suggestions during your rewrite of the HUD? Specifically the "move" option changes to two days. And possibly the stabilizing or remembering of the position of stats for a specific table, meaning 8 player, 6 player, 10 player, etc.? And, the possible problem between the HUD stats and the database stats I mentioned in post #167. thanks, you can have the weekend off.
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12-20-2008 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
The good news is... my HUD (knock on wood) has been stable so far. Could it actually be Vista is being good?
Nevermind, the HUD crashed tonight and no stats will show...sigh
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