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12-12-2008 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
I've only implemented hold'em for PokerStars atm and a lot of stuff is inactive. I'm not sure if I should release a potentially buggish intermediate beta version or wait more for the full thing I'm planning for beta 8
It's your call, just let us know and we'll find all the bugs

It's looking good so far.
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12-12-2008 , 04:25 AM
Can't wait to see an operational HUD for PH, it will look good on my table mod (courtesy of Everlong, Fozzy and a few tweaks myself)

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12-12-2008 , 09:41 AM
The HUD is looking nice. I can see some bells AND whistles! If you do decide to use us as guinea pigs, sign me up for 5CD.

In summary stats for 5CD, how is the Steal % calculated? I'm assuming it refers to a button open-raise and not a small blind open-raise. Is it possible to have a separate stat for each in a future version?

I'm seeing Steal % numbers that seem a bit too low to be believable. It could be I'm not stealing as much as I should, but can you check and see if it's not the code and maybe confirm I'm not the nit I appear to be.

Also, in session stats, the Big Bets/100 seems to be off. None of the figures correspond with big bets won/hands played.

Thanks!
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12-12-2008 , 11:43 AM
Alright I think I'll release something when PokerStars support is ok, then I'll add Full Tilt in a 2nd time. If bugs are found on PStar I'll have only one version to correct, that seems to be the best solution.

Clemenza: ATS was added a while ago and I'm not happy with it. I think the recently added bet stats are solid, but this old ATS sucks. Atm, ATS is an open raise from CO or BTN, there's no separated stats for them and not even ATS from SB. Also I detected a problem the way it's computed which would explain the miscalculation. I'll fix it in the next version, or maybe redo it entirely.

For the BB/100 in FCD session tab, if it's only bugged there I might have done something wrong. I'm adding that on the list.

Btw unemployment is over and I'm moving to Paris soon. I'll hope I'll have the time to finish this ASAP
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12-12-2008 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
I'll fix it in the next version, or maybe redo it entirely.
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
For the BB/100 in FCD session tab, if it's only bugged there I might have done something wrong. I'm adding that on the list.
Yes, it's seems to be accurate in the summary tab

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
I'm moving to Paris soon. I'll hope I'll have the time to finish this ASAP
Oh, no! I've developed a dependency on you and your awesome software. Paris is a great city, and you'll be able to play on a lot more sites once you're out of the US.
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12-12-2008 , 10:22 PM
Don't worry I'm planning to support PokerHands for a long time. I can't go back after investing so much time on this and call me nerd but I'm actually enjoying doing this. It's just that I'll have less time to work on it because it won't be easy with my consulting job (or I'll just sleep less )

Anyway, I was looking at the BB/100 formula you reported wrong, and I came accross this:
CAST(SUM(hp.netwon) AS REAL) / CAST(SUM(l.lmt_bb) AS REAL) AS s_netwon_bb
wth. Was I half asleep when I coded this? Of course it's plain wrong
SUM(CAST(hp.netwon AS REAL) / CAST(l.lmt_bbet AS REAL)) seems like a better idea ;o
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12-12-2008 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Don't worry I'm planning to support PokerHands for a long time. I can't go back after investing so much time on this and call me nerd but I'm actually enjoying doing this. It's just that I'll have less time to work on it because it won't be easy with my consulting job (or I'll just sleep less )

Anyway, I was looking at the BB/100 formula you reported wrong, and I came accross this:
CAST(SUM(hp.netwon) AS REAL) / CAST(SUM(l.lmt_bb) AS REAL) AS s_netwon_bb
wth. Was I half asleep when I coded this? Of course it's plain wrong
SUM(CAST(hp.netwon AS REAL) / CAST(l.lmt_bbet AS REAL)) seems like a better idea ;o
I don't understand coding, but it seems strange to me that in the summary, all my stats for bb/100 are exactly to the penny double BB/100. If that is the case all the time, why have both of those stats. Or, is the above gibberish (layman's translation of programming) mean that the error I am referring to is the same as you corrected above.

Glad to hear of your consulting job, and that you still plan to support the PH project. I know which one you will make the most money on, especially based on a "per hour" basis.

You can see by this previous shot I posted for a different reason.

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12-12-2008 , 11:38 PM
This behavior is correct. Often people like to use BB/100 (big bets/100, also known as PTBB/100) for limit games and bb/100 (big blinds/100) for pot limit/no limit games.

Take the first row for example:
$0.5/$1 Limit (Big bet size: $1. Big Blind size: $0.5)
BB/100 = 100 * 112.10 / 1 / 1001 (11.20)
bb/100 = 100 * 112.10 / 0.5 / 1001 (22.40)
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12-14-2008 , 04:06 AM


In the above capture, could you tell this old dummy what "2 Limits" means?



Thanks

Last edited by 1meandog4u; 12-14-2008 at 04:19 AM.
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12-14-2008 , 01:22 PM
I know you are in the early stages of the HUD, but will the stats boxes give us the ability to move them or relocate them? I have several themes I'm trying and it would be convenient to be able to adjust where the HUD stats are displayed on the screen.
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12-14-2008 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
I know you are in the early stages of the HUD, but will the stats boxes give us the ability to move them or relocate them? I have several themes I'm trying and it would be convenient to be able to adjust where the HUD stats are displayed on the screen.
The ability for multi-panels,vertical panels, and single stats would be pretty important as well, eventually, IMO. I really like to use multi-panels and placement of stats, to help me remember the stats w/o hsving to use abbreviations.

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I have several themes I'm trying
The real question is do you have any cards with 'lowball text'??


Last edited by fozzy71; 12-14-2008 at 01:56 PM. Reason: 1234 FTMFW
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12-14-2008 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u

In the above capture, could you tell this old dummy what "2 Limits" means?
Thanks
If you played, say $0.25/$0.50 and $0.5/$1 limit Badugi during the same session (by multitabling), PokerHands just says "2 limits" to mention more than 1 limit was played during the same session. This is deeply embedded with how SQL queries work; there would be no easy way to say, concatenate the two limits to form a string like "$0.25/$0.50 and $0.5/$1" instead of "2 limits". It would involve the creation of a custom made aggregating function. It's possible though. If you think that'd be better, I'll do it

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I know you are in the early stages of the HUD, but will the stats boxes give us the ability to move them or relocate them? I have several themes I'm trying and it would be convenient to be able to adjust where the HUD stats are displayed on the screen.
Once you've chosen a style for the HUD, you cannot move the different stats separetely inside the hud panel (you're still able to move the entire box though). However, in the hud config menu, you can move everything as you please and there's a preview thing window to see how it's going to look like.

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The ability for multi-panels,vertical panels, and single stats would be pretty important as well, eventually, IMO. I really like to use multi-panels and placement of stats, to help me remember the stats w/o hsving to use abbreviations.
I'm afraid I don't understand this
I've never really intensively used a hud so all those "multi panels" things is chinese to me.

However, there should be a release today or tomorrow so you'll be able to tell me what's wrong.
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12-14-2008 , 04:09 PM
Here is one of my HM multi-panel huds (4 panels) from when I played nlhe this spring. By creating 'new panels', you can break up and place some of the stats more strategically. The vertical panels are done by creating a new panel:

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New Panel
Stl/F2Stl
New Line
3Bet/F23B
for example.

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12-14-2008 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
However, there should be a release today or tomorrow so you'll be able to tell me what's wrong.
let's hope it will include 27TD
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12-14-2008 , 06:28 PM
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there would be no easy way to say, concatenate the two limits to form a string like "$0.25/$0.50 and $0.5/$1" instead of "2 limits". It would involve the creation of a custom made aggregating function. It's possible though. If you think that'd be better, I'll do it
Too many more important things to worry about. Looking forward to b8??
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12-14-2008 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
Too many more important things to worry about. Looking forward to b8??
Hey Dog - We played a couple orbits together last night, fwiw.
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12-14-2008 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
The vertical panels are done by creating a new panel:
for example.
Alright I see. Well you can only have 1 panel per user, so that's not possible atm.

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et's hope it will include 27TD
Sadly it won't. Next release is the "hud release", but it's going to be the next thing to be implemented.

I've just found an annoying issue so it won't be for today
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12-14-2008 , 07:19 PM
Any HUD will be great. I just wanted you to be aware of what the other HUDs do, and what I (and others) are used to doing with our HUDs. I am a huge fam of color coding ranges for all my hud stats also.
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12-15-2008 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Hey Dog - We played a couple orbits together last night, fwiw.
Did we win? PM me your screen name.... if u wish to.
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12-15-2008 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Any HUD will be great. I just wanted you to be aware of what the other HUDs do, and what I (and others) are used to doing with our HUDs. I am a huge fam of color coding ranges for all my hud stats also.
I don't even use stats, merely color coding and Dave's StarsRead AHK with some minor changes for my needs. Here's a quick screen shot from a micro.

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12-15-2008 , 04:16 AM
One nice feature to add when you start looking for bells and whistles. On the import screen, if there were a "Move to:" box so after importing the files each site's tab could move the HH's to another spot or backup directory or drive. I hate going thru that manually.
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12-15-2008 , 09:41 AM
I havent bothered trying stars reads. It is of no value to me, if I cant add notes along side the colors. I asked dave if it were possible to incorporate Stars Reads and Buddy List into a better script, along with note taking ability. An AHK Notes DB of sorts. I just hate the stars notes system.

You should get yourself some brighter card backs, IMO. There are some freebie 'card back only' mods available, I can show you. Feel free to send mee your AIM/MSN if you have one, and I can teach you the basics. If you want to PM me at my site, I will ship you a free copy of one of my Stars decks, with 'Lowball Text' and 'Draw Game' options.

Definitely would love to see a 'move processed files after import'.
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12-16-2008 , 05:05 PM
PokerHands beta 8 is now available:

DOWNLOAD (2.92mB)

The HUD for PokerStars and for all supported cash games (Hold'Em, Five Card Draw, Badugi) is the main part of this release. To make it work, here are the steps:

1. Click Hud/Configure. On the PokerStars tab, chose your preferred seats. It's set to the 1st seat by default (those are my settings) and it's just like the real PokerStars menu so you won't be lost



2. Go to the "Import Hands" tab, then click "Live Import". This will monitor all the files in your hand history folder.
3. Click Hud/Start

Now in PokerStars, after seating and playing a hand, you should see this coming:


Right clicking on a panel will display the complete stats for a given player


Please note that you cannot add new styles right now (well, you could by hacking the hud.xml, but don't bother), but you can still modify the current themes.

This is just a beginning so I can further improve it to bring it to the highest quality levels. Please tell me what features you'd like to have and what bugs you found in this release. The multiple/vertical panels and stat coloring by range will be in the next version.

I also added a copy/move processed files option you requested for so long

Last but not least, Attempt to Steal was fixed but not redone. This means your PokerHands b7 database will still be compatible with this version but you should still reimport to a clean db because ATS/FoldBBtoSteal/FoldSBtoSeal are corrupted. The bb/100 in the session tab was also fixed.

To Vista users
I tried to configure the installer to ask for admin level privileges. Not sure if this is going to work though.

What's coming next?
The beta 8 will last until the HUD is judged satisfying. This means beta 8.xx are expected to be released.
Now one step ahead, beta 9 will introduce 2-7 Triple Draw and hopefully starting hands/stat pos for Badugi/Five Card Draw.
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12-16-2008 , 05:10 PM
1rd

I dont get any popup menu when right clicking. Is it possible to move panels yet? My panel is in the way of clicking my discards. Are you planning on adding color ranges/thresholds? Transparent hud panel backgrounds? Ability to display session stats (especially for hero) instead of lifetime. Ability to turn hero stats off.

Last edited by fozzy71; 12-16-2008 at 05:22 PM.
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12-16-2008 , 05:22 PM
Yep you can move your panels simply by drag and drop
Color ranges are def. going to be included, I already have an idea as to how to implement this.
As for the popup menu, well I dunno. Stupid question but: are you clicking on a panel?
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