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11-28-2008 , 09:46 AM
If there's good enough interest, I will be happy to port PokerObserver HUD to this. I think Omaha is a necessity though. Tony, can you prioritize that?
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11-28-2008 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
Great, I did find that. One thing I can't quite figure out still. When I click on "me" on the right tab area, I do not get my stats. However, if I click on my name in the player's list, it shows all my stats as a player. Is it supposed to work that way?
File > Options > PokerStars > Type in your ScreenName, so it always knows who you are.

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Originally Posted by YoureToast
If there's good enough interest, I will be happy to port PokerObserver HUD to this. I think Omaha is a necessity though. Tony, can you prioritize that?


I would love to be able to use POHUD while playing badugi.
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11-28-2008 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
There's a starting hand tab in Hold'Em because it's easy to track starting hands: there are only a few of them. For Five Card Draw and Badugi, it's much more complicated. What's the best way in your opinion to somehow group starting hands in Badugi?
The pre-filtered hand tab seems like a good idea
Hand and positional stats would be great for 5 Card Draw and Badugi, regardless of how much RAM it needs! The ability to search for your win rate with QQ or KKAxx in a certain position would be invaulable!

Can the grouping issues and complexity be significantly reduced in exchange for limited functionality? For example, for Badugi, it could track all dealt 4-card hands ranked only by the highest card and in various positions vs. # opponants. And with 5CD, dealt pairs grouped by rank and in various positions.

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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
However, you have a tool named pgAdmin III which was installed with PostgreSQL (check your startup menu) which can list your databases and delete them.
Thanks!
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11-28-2008 , 04:54 PM
Worst beat so far. Guess it could be worse.


Badugi sim, 100000 trials, 3 draws:
Dead cards: none

Hand 0: As 2d 5h 6c: standing pat
Hand 1: Ah 2c 3d --: 2nd draw: keep 6 badugi. 3rd draw: keep 6 badugi

Hand 0: A 2 5 6 : EV 81.1% - WIN/LOSE/TIE %: total 81.1/18.9/0.0 - badugi 81.1/18.9/0.0 - 3 cards 0.0/0.0/0.0 - 2 or 1 card 0.0/0.0/0.0
Hand 1: A 2 3 -- : EV 18.9% - WIN/LOSE/TIE %: total 18.9/81.1/0.0 - badugi 18.9/13.5/0.0 - 3 cards 0.0/67.6/0.0 - 2 or 1 card 0.0/0.0/0.0


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11-28-2008 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by YoureToast
If there's good enough interest, I will be happy to port PokerObserver HUD to this. I think Omaha is a necessity though. Tony, can you prioritize that?
It's true that there's no next gen Omaha tracker but I seriously don't think I can develop and maintain an Omaha tracker when the support for Hold'Em/FCD/Badugi is still not solid enough.

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Can the grouping issues and complexity be significantly reduced in exchange for limited functionality? For example, for Badugi, it could track all dealt 4-card hands ranked only by the highest card and in various positions vs. # opponants. And with 5CD, dealt pairs grouped by rank and in various positions.
That's 10 groups (K to 4) for 4-card hands, so yes it seems like a good idea. Then what do you think about grouping the 3-card hand by the 2 highest cards that are part of the 3-card hand (ie: KQx, KJx, etc. etc.)
That would add a couple of dozen hands to the 10 4-cards.
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11-28-2008 , 09:30 PM
Hey Tony,
I think the software is importing badugi hands incorrectly when there is a main pot and a side pot. In the hands where this has happened, everyone seems to be a loser (by the amount they put into the pot). I can post an example if it would help.

Only other thing--and this is a very very minor detail--I imported a complete hand history which had hands from various stakes; it interpreted them as all being from the same stakes. This wouldn't matter based on how pokerstars normally saves the hand histories (since I think it does them on a table-by-table basis), so maybe it doesn't really matter. I just split the different stakes into different files and all was well.
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11-29-2008 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gammoner
I think the software is importing badugi hands incorrectly when there is a main pot and a side pot.
You are absolutely right. I forgot to add the split pot and side pots regular expressions to the badugi parser.

For the other thing, well this is working as intended. The underlying algorithm when you import a file uses the same session_id for the whole file, because that's how PokerStars saves their HH. I'm reworking the Hold'Em part as of now and I'm changing this behavior so that each hand is treated individually no matter what file they come from. If it's working properly it will be extended to the other supported games.
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11-29-2008 , 05:29 PM
May I assume that the convertor is not working yet? Mine isn't.
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11-29-2008 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
That's 10 groups (K to 4) for 4-card hands, so yes it seems like a good idea. Then what do you think about grouping the 3-card hand by the 2 highest cards that are part of the 3-card hand (ie: KQx, KJx, etc. etc.) That would add a couple of dozen hands to the 10 4-cards.
That sounds nice! Also, grouping the 2-card hands by highest card would be helpful (2x, 3x, 4x, 5x), as well as analyzing each hand by position (utg, cutoff, etc.), if possible. I think Fozzy can give better insight on which Badugi hand stats are most important.

For 5 Card Draw, simply being able to analyze results with pre-draw pairs (JJxxx, AAxxx, or even KKAxx or QQKAx) in various positions would be a huge gain.

I know there are too many possible starting hands in Draw games to provide results for them all. Even if it's limited to just a few, these types of stats are the ones that will really help us find leaks and improve our game!
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11-30-2008 , 03:27 AM
I was looking at some of the MTT and SNG's that PH imported. (NL) While it has the hands and stats, it has no results. I did manage to enter the information manually by double clicking each one individually, then entered #players, finish, entry fee, win$ etc, but that would be a real PITA if that's the end product. Has that just not been coded yet?

One other point: IMHO, the default graph for "last 100" hands seems a bit low. Even last 1000 would seem too small of a window to tell me much. Could that either be larger, or in the options/properties allow us to set the default number of hands?
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11-30-2008 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
May I assume that the convertor is not working yet? Mine isn't.
It was only working with Hold'Em and it seems that it has now some big issues. I'm aware of that and I'm willing to change to way it works to take into account what I call the "universal log format" that you can see when you replay a hand (it looks like FTP's format)

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I was looking at some of the MTT and SNG's that PH imported. (NL) While it has the hands and stats, it has no results. I did manage to enter the information manually by double clicking each one individually, then entered #players, finish, entry fee, win$ etc, but that would be a real PITA if that's the end product. Has that just not been coded yet?
I know, Tourney support simply sucks. The tourney tab is really here for some testings. I'm settled yet as to how to handle results: PokerStars doesn't save a tourney summary for exemple; so there might still some user input needed.

Clemenza: Alright that sounds good to me. God there are so many things to I'd hire a full time developer if I could
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11-30-2008 , 03:12 PM
Self bump because I need your help on how to implement donk bets tracking:

Let's say UTG raises preflop, BTN calls.
UTG now has the possibility to contibet, but he doesn't and checks.
Now, if BTN bets, should this be flagged as a donk bet or does UTG loses the initiative the moment he chose to check?

Thanks
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11-30-2008 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Self bump because I need your help on how to implement donk bets tracking:

Let's say UTG raises preflop, BTN calls.
UTG now has the possibility to contibet, but he doesn't and checks.
Now, if BTN bets, should this be flagged as a donk bet or does UTG loses the initiative the moment he chose to check?

Thanks
In that hand there could never be a donk bet, because the pre-flop raiser acts first.
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12-01-2008 , 12:25 PM
I am receiving an error message after I downloaded the file and try to run it. The message says, "To run this application, you must first install one of the following versions of the .NET Framework:"
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12-01-2008 , 01:40 PM
Wranged: You have to install the Microsoft .NET framework in order to run the program

.NET is used in a lot of programs nowadays, you'll need it for many others (I think HEM runs on .NET too)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Also, I guess you don't have PostgreSQL on your computer. This is the database that is used by most trackers including PokerHands:
http://www.enterprisedb.com/products/pgdownload.do#windows


I hope that helps.

Hood: Ok thank you.
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12-05-2008 , 08:27 AM
Im dumb too. Running the setup wizard and i cant connect to the specified sql server using these settings. Is this probably an issue with my postgreSQL password? Im guessing that got installed with PT, and I dont remember giving it any sort of password. Tried both leaving it blank and "dbpass" neither worked.
help, im an idiot.

Last edited by Fiasco; 12-05-2008 at 08:32 AM.
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12-05-2008 , 09:22 AM
The other typical password is postgrespass.
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12-05-2008 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
The other typical password is postgrespass.
that one doesnt work either, does it matter what the username is? Is there a place in PT (or elsewhere) where i can go to find out what the username/password should be?
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12-05-2008 , 11:39 AM
It's weird that there's no option menu in PT3 where you can change this...

Anyway, you'll find this in
C:\Program Files\PokerTracker 3\Data\Config\PokerTracker.cfg

Open it with wordpad or any other text editor, you'll find the settings under the "Database" section, mine for exemple:

Code:
[Database]
Default.Postgres.Server=localhost
Default.Postgres.Port=5432
Default.Postgres.User=postgres
Default.Postgres.Password=dbpass
Btw I finished implementing bet stats for Hold'Em/5CardDraw. I'm working on Badugi right now; the next beta should be released pretty soon I hope
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12-05-2008 , 08:35 PM
ok, that worked perfectly, thanks. Now my only issue is that i tried to import my hands before I actually had a working database, and now when I try to import, im not getting any hands. I forget what you said it did to imported hands (I think you siad it didnt move them, but it did something). Is there a way to import those hands again now that I actually have a database?
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12-05-2008 , 08:37 PM
It doesnt actually 'move' the hands anywhere, so you should be able to import the same files again. You can also check in C:\Program Files\PokerHands\logs and copy any text files and paste them back into your HH folder for the poker client.
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12-05-2008 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiasco
ok, that worked perfectly, thanks. Now my only issue is that i tried to import my hands before I actually had a working database, and now when I try to import, im not getting any hands. I forget what you said it did to imported hands (I think you siad it didnt move them, but it did something). Is there a way to import those hands again now that I actually have a database?
Imported hands are copied to the PokerHands directory, not moved, so there's no problem trying to import again.

Now for your problem, well it's easy, go to file/databases; then on the new window


Click create new, give it the name you want


Now, this db is in the db list. Select it and click "set active"


Voila, you're ready for import
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12-06-2008 , 12:11 AM
Hi guys--

I just scrolled through this thread to see what was going on and would like to say that it is really easy to use the fpdb HUD with other database back ends. I have used it with PT3 and with PT Stud. I think that someone with rudimentary python and sql skills could have it going with PokerHands in one long day of programming, ok maybe two long days. I would have to make a few changes to the main program, but I am happy to do that, it is basically just putting back some stuff I ripped out when I integrated with fpdb database.

I would do this myself, but it looks like PokerHands is windows only and it is very painful for me to develop on windows. Plus, I would rather spend the time improving the HUD--there is so much to do.

If someone wants to do this, speak up! I will show you what needs to be done and take back your patches into the development tree so that you get the benefits of continued development.

Ooh, one more thing. PokerHands would really need to be importing hands in real time for this to make sense.
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12-06-2008 , 10:53 AM
Ah, hahaha, im an idiot. Just realized the problem was that I did a PT3 import recently and PT moved the files, ill just import from PT's processed folder


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Originally Posted by tonypkr7
Imported hands are copied to the PokerHands directory, not moved, so there's no problem trying to import again.

Now for your problem, well it's easy, go to file/databases; then on the new window


Click create new, give it the name you want


Now, this db is in the db list. Select it and click "set active"


Voila, you're ready for import
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12-06-2008 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Eratosthenes
Hi guys--
I would do this myself, but it looks like PokerHands is windows only and it is very painful for me to develop on windows. Plus, I would rather spend the time improving the HUD--there is so much to do.

Ooh, one more thing. PokerHands would really need to be importing hands in real time for this to make sense.
Hey Eratosthenes, well if you need any help with the database schema PH is using you can always drop me a private msg. Real time import is scheduled for the next version
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