+1 (you are right annuit )

sometimes the same table will continuously pop up even though i already acted on it

other times the table that had pending action first will continuously be trumped by new tables with pending action.

i'm cascading and poker shortcuts is unusable at the moment because of this.

Thanks for letting me know... I need a few more details as I am not able to duplicate this problem.

kk and Annuit: what are your settings on the Table1 tab?

Annuit: are your tables stacked, cascaded or tiled? What poker sites?

kk: what poker site are you having this problem with? Do you just have tables from one poker site in the cascade (you need to just have one poker site in a give cascade... make 2 cascades if you intermix FT and PS tables)? Can you email me a screen capture of your table layout?

Any other clues?

nanochip

ahhh darn... I had multiple requests to change FT Shortcuts to register in multiple sngs of the same type, and not wait for the first one to fill up.

I'll add your request to the wish list and see if it is possible with the new sng method used.

nanochip

nice job pitchx!

I just added this info to the troubleshooting page, in case others need it (need to fix the images there on this page, but that should be done soon).
http://windyhilltech.com/poker/ps/trouble.php#31

nano

Thank you for the detailed feedback. I will look into this problem.

nanochip

Thanks... I will have that fixed in the next version.

nano

fozzy: yes, you have it right.

More info about table mods is here:
http://windyhilltech.com/poker/ps/trouble.php#7

nano

I hope Stars doesn't continually make changes like this

nanochip

Thanks for letting me know about this problem.

Are the bet sizes always wrong? Or just sometimes?

I have verified a somewhat frequent problem (in NL games) where sometimes the bet size is a min raise or smaller - maybe 1 in 15 hands it will put in the wrong bet amount. So I'm wondering if you are experiencing this occasional problem, or is the bet size always wrong for you?

edit... I just saw your post with the images of your table... I'll respond to that post next.

nano

Hey ffr,

The full tilt table has a number of mods that are problematic (unless you create a new Poker Shortcuts theme for this table, which is a rather technical procedure). One thing that will cause a problem is the buttons are different. The software does image recognition on the call button to read the call amount. These buttons need to remain "stock" in order for PSC to read the call amount.

As an aside, and maybe you fixed with this the discussion you had with fozzy, but you need to recalibrate the FT table felt colors on the calib tab. The colors that you show in the image to not match the color of your table felt in all street positions.

I don't see any problems with your Stars table.

Could you enable debug mode on the Display tab, and sit down at one table (play money ok), and see what parameters don't seem to be correct. the parameters of interest are POT, Call, Stack, Street, Blinds. when you see a betting error, check this debug window and see what parameters are incorrect. I'd only do this with your Stars table, as the FT one has a number of issues that will keep it from working correctly.

Here's a table mod list with a little more info:
http://windyhilltech.com/poker/ps/trouble.php#7

nanochip

did you get this resolved? If not check out this new trouble shoot tip:
http://windyhilltech.com/poker/ps/trouble.php#30

nano

Shortcuts does try to resize the tables every 2-3 seconds. But it should only resize a table if that table is not the desired size (set up on the table 2 tab). The times should be the same for FT and PS.

Can you give me some more details about the "going nuts"? In another post you said the tables were flashing. Do you have some other program running that is also trying to resize the tables?

nano

Thanks for the new feature suggestion! I've just added it to the wish list.

nanochip

Thanks for letting me know about this... I have just been able to duplicate the problem, and I'm working on a solution now.

nanochip

Hey Respawn,

Yes, on FT tables the time button is clicked on lower tables in the stack.
On Stars tables, the time button will be clicked on lower tables if the the Betting box is present. It is usually present, except for some all in situations. In that case, if you cascade the tables with the lower right corners of the tables visible, then the software will click the time button for these situations.

see this page for more details:
http://windyhilltech.com/poker/ps/tabs/misc.php

nano

This doesn't really relate to that question but how exactly does the new method work?
I have only tested it with PokerStars so far and there always seemed to be a strong bias towards one of the buyin levels. I had the lobby set up to show two types of sit and goes (same kind of tournament, two different buyin levels), had those specified as SnG 1 and 2, checked their checkboxes on SnG B.

In FTShortcuts it used to just register as soon as it "saw" the games in the lobby (and the criteria were met...). With Stars it doesn't seem to properly scan through all the games in the lobby or something. I had sessions were I manually loaded one type of SnG 2 and then started the session in Poker Shortcuts and it literally only opened tournaments of SnG 1's type.

It's also hard to open SnG's manually in the Stars lobby when a "session" is running because it seems like Poker Shortcuts forces the lowermost sit and go to be selected. Maybe that's also why it prefers to register those?!

I don't know if this is intended but I don't think there should be a bias towards any of the specified SnG's. It should just check the lobby if any of the ones with a checked checkbox on SnG B are visible and go ahead and register them as soon as they are like FTShortcuts used to do.

(Using Windows XP, Cleartype, Lobby text largest, Black lobby theme, Lobby visible on its own dedicated screen.)

I don't think I can describe it better than I have tried to.
You should be able to recreate it using a 16 table setup like this:
Stack1 Stack2
Stack3 Stack4
(4 tables each stack)
As I said, I think it may only be happening when you first start PokerStars, open all the tables, and then start Poker Shortcuts.
The going nuts part is just that it seems to move all tables in each stack to the front one by one within milliseconds. This happened every 2-3 seconds or so which was very distracting. That's what I meant by "the tables are flashing".
I have since always started Poker Shortcuts first and set Table2 to "none" just to make sure. No problems since.

I am using StarsPlanner but had not been using it when I tried to recreate the problem and find the source of it obviously, so that's not the cause.

Nanochip, I just wanted to make sure you read this feature suggestion since I don't think you have replied to it yet. Sorry if you have already, don't wanna be a pain

I currently have an external script running that automatically clicks the info tab and refreshes it as soon as a table is activated.
TableNinja does this intermittently for all (visible?) tables, which is great. I'm not that experienced with AHK scripting so I haven't been able to do that yet, but you should be able to do that with ease?

(Maybe you could make it so that if the player manually clicks the "Chat" tab it overrides the "auto click Info" on that table or something until "Info" is clicked again manually by the player. Or do something similar so that you can read the chat box at a given table without info being clicked again on that table. It's not all that important but would probably be better than manually having to deactivate the "auto info / auto refresh" feature every time you have to / want to look at the chat box.)

Thanks for looking into it nano, keep up the good work!

Full Tilt. In DM: Out mode and autopost has been unchecked on all tables. In big blind on 1 table. The next hand, FTP prompts to post SB. PSC posts the SB, and CHECKS the autopost blinds box. Now in DM: Out at that table, but with autopost checked, and I don't get dealt out on the next BB.

The going nuts (aka flashing or resizing all the tables quickly) sounds like a fairly common stars planner glitch/issue. For me it seemed to happen occasionaly when I had the 'enable resize' activated on stars planner. I think it may have something to do with a bad capture layout INI file that has negative position numbers or similar. It used to happen fairly often, but doesnt seem to be happening to me lately. I would suggest you try and capture a new table layout in stars planner, and see if that helps. There is a program I use called AllSnap that helps to align table windows, by making them 'snap to edges'.

As I said, I had not been using StarsPlanner when the problem with Poker Shortcuts regarding resizing of tables occured.

It is a problem caused by Poker Shortcuts' Table2 tab resizing feature and can be recreated the way I described it (I just tried it again with only 5 tables and it happened. Just open Stars first then Poker Shortcuts and use "Table2" resizing)

I couldn't reproduce it on my XP machine using the process you suggested. Hopefully Nano will be of more help. I personally don't use PSC for resizing tables, and always leave Table2 set to none. I also always make sure to open PSC before I open any tables. I do this by using TheOpener script to start all my software applications before a session, so all I have to do is start my HEM import, sign in to stars, and open some tables.

OK....seems like you have found the solution.

This part does not work the same as FTSC used to work. You now need to set up a HotKey to do the dirty work. On the DealMe page, set up a HotKey for "Active Table Mode Toggle Key..." (I use F1).

Then to sit out on a table when the next BB comes up you need to (1) make the table active and then (2) double click F!.

To sit back in (cancel your sit out action), just single click after making active.

I'm having the same exact bet sizing problem on both PS and FT. And yes, the problem is all the time. Pokershiortcuts never enters in the correct bet size in the bet window for full pot. Sometimes it enters in the amount that is currently in the pot and sometimes it enters in an amount less then the minim bet amount allowed.

I enabled debugging and took a screen shot of a PS table for you to take a look at:





FTSC works perfect with my current table mod so I'm still holding out hope that once I fix the bet sizes issue with PS it will also fix it for FT as the problem seems to be the same for both.

I did recalibrate my FT table without any board cards after Fozzy suggested (and now the colors match the felt color), but that didn't help the bet sizing problem.