• Include all tourneys, not just SnG's. You'll need to recalculate pots from the File menu
• Renamed to TourneyLuck

http://rapidshare.com/files/17617325...Luck-v0..8.zip

Oh, I misunderstood, I thought you were calculating Sklansky bucks

Sorry if Im a noob but how do I use it? Extract/run didnt work, gave me a null refrence error.

Thanks for taking the time to make this also!

One that actually works this time
http://rapidshare.com/files/17627129...yLuck-v0.9.zip

Yeah, had a bug in that last version. Should be good now.

hey, the tourney luck works great, but the cash games one doesnt seem to be reading the hands from the database, is there anything i should try?

Thanks a lot, again.

Are you getting some exception? can you post the contents of the log file?

There's no exception, it just opens with a blank graph. It doesnt seem to be reading the histories.

Has it ever worked for you? Did you set any filters?
Can't really think of any reason it would do that.

Do you have any kind of IM (Yahoo, MSN, AIM etc') PM with your username.

Is it possible to have the Xaxis being the hands instead of the allin hands ?

Not the way it's written now, no. It can be done but I don't see the point in doing it and it would be a considerable amount of work to get it done.

The Y axis for the TourneyLuck software says "Dollars 10^3". Does this mean that the horizontal line "5" really means "$5000" in real money? This doesn't seem right to me, as I'm playing $11 9 mans on full tilt, but my luck swung from -10 (-$10000) to 30 ($30000) this month. (I've only played 30 SNGs or so this month). I'm probably reading the graph wrong.

Also, feature request - any chance you could make a user-entered date filter, so I can do last two months, last 10 days, etc.

Great work so far - I've been waiting for a working SNG luck graph for some time.

Yeah, I guess I need to change the Y axis to display Tourney dollars(T) instead of real dollars or big blinds, depending on the mode.

As for date filter, just click on the F button and set the dates.

I have been looking for an allin luck analyzer for tournaments for a long time and finally I have found it.
Thank you very much for the effort you have put into this.
I'll send you a donation!

First I made a chart for my last 5 months. I expected to be running about average and according to the chart I am.

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1610327_5_months_chart/

However december was a bad month and I hade a feeling running bad had a lot to do with it. The decemer chart proved I was running bad:

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1610328_december_2008/

However the big blinds chart for december shows me I was running as expected on BB which proved to me I was running bad in the big pots:

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1610345_december_2008_BB/

I know this is a small sample size but I am just very happy to now have graphs which show my allin luck in tournaments.

Can you please explain how expected and actual are calculated. Example hand:

Pot T22360 (no side pots)
Hero: AcKc
Villain: QdQc
Equity: 45.9%
Allin pre-flop
Board: Th9d4h4dKs

Expected: T429 (????)
Actual: T13,030
Difference: 12,587.71

I can send you the handhistory of this hand if you need it.

Thanks for the great program

[QUOTE=beekman;7825223]I have been looking for an allin luck analyzer for tournaments for a long time and finally I have found it.
Thank you very much for the effort you have put into this.
I'll send you a donation![QUOTE]
Glad to help, thanks for the donation...
Sure, without the HH, I can't be 100% accurate but here's an approximate explanation:
The pot is 22360 chips and your equity in it is 45.9% so your expectation from the pot is 0.459 * 22360 which is 10263. However, the program displays profit, not earnings so you must deduct whatever you invested in the hand. Your investment would be a bit less than 1/2 because of blinds posted. In this case, it seems there was quite a bit of dead money in the pot because your expected profit was positive even though your equity was bellow 50%. From what I can tell, the were about 2700 chips worth of dead money in the pot so either the blinds were large or someone raised preflop and folded. I'll be able to tell you exactly if you post the HH.
You ended up winning the coin toss so the entire 22360 went to you but again, we calculate profit so deduct your investment and we get the number you see.

" Failed to connect to database server : FATAL: 3D000:database "..." does not exist."

I don't understand, I'm pretty sure that I set the right name..

Could it be an error from your software please ?

(I'm using PT2)

Thanks for the explanation, it's totally clear to me now.

Sorry, PokerTracker3 only.

Various bug fixes.

Some hands were calculated incorrectly, you need to recalculate all hands to correct it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/17757412...Luck-v0.10.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/17757478...Luck-v0.10.zip

Hello Albert,

A few comments on your wonderful program.

I note that the graphs and calculations are in absolute T-chips rather than in EV. This has the tendency to skew the "difference" unnaturally high, and causes players to think the cards are rigged against them when in fact they are not.

This is because most every tournament you enter ends with an all-in loss and elimination hand, where the relative chip count is high... and in those elimination hands, the hero (usually) has positive equity and (always) loses, pumping up the "difference" by an amount that is disproportionate relative to the "lucky wins" he may have experienced earlier in the event.

That's why virtually every player's graphs show a "difference" line that is far greater than the EV line... and that's not good.

A better way to calculate it would be on absolute EV percentages, and then graph that so that all hands are treated equally, regardless of the size of the blinds relative to the stacks. Here's what I mean.

In the "Hands" view in your program, you have columns for Equity, Expected, Actual and Difference. Instead of using T-chips here, though, to make all hands equal you should have Equity, and absolute result (without regard to the actual chips won or lost). If I have an equity of 53.9%, and I win, my expected is 0.539, and my actual is 1.00 (I won 100% of the pot). If I split the pot, my actual would be 0.50, and if I lost the hand, my actual would be 0.00.

Then, you're truly comparing luck... because at the end of a statistically significant run, the sum of all "expected" values should closely match the sum of all "actual" ones.... without being skewed by the nature of tournaments, where the last hand is almost always a loss. In the end, I'd want to see a red line for "difference" that hovers very near zero, and green and blue lines that are in close proximity overall, but that separate briefly (representing short term luck).

Then, if the red line has deviated significantly from zero over the long haul, you'd know whether you were running good or bad. If the red line trended up, you'd be running good, down, bad.

It might be best to have a toggle option available, one to show absolute chips, and one to show relative EV without regard to chips won or lost, especially in the SNG version.

I hope I've been clear in explaining this. If you have any questions, please let me know. Keep up the excellent work.

Jester

I hope to be able to add ICM equity which will at least for single table S&G's will give a very accurate picture in actual $$$, not chips.

For the time being, try viewing the graph in Big Blinds mode (Ctrl-B), that give a bit lest skewed picture.

Not sure I agree with you on this one though. Yes, the difference tends to be skewed by late tourney hands but not necessarily negatively. Yes, hero will mostly loose his last hand in an all in situation but he won't necessarily be ahead most of the time. In fact, a lot of time, hero is happy to get it all in with 2 live cards when faced with a short stack situation late in a tourney. I think things should be evening out in these situations too.

I use HM and what I miss most from it is Sklansky buck calculation...that's a much better measure of how lucky/unlucky you're running than the all-in EV for many many reasons like sample size (you're all in only like 1 in 100 hands in NLHE cash games, the ratio is even more ridiculous for LHE)

As HM has all-in EV stuff too (which i also consider pretty much useless), so for me your software only has value if you add Sklansky-buck calculation.

(and yes, Omaha support wouldn't hurt )

Anyway, thanks for the effort

Thank you again for this software, it's helpful.

But I have a bug, I lost money on 400NL and here is what your software show :



It seems that the red line is correct but the green and blue line are false (I actually lost money).
And it seems that taking just the opposite of those lines (multiplying by -1) gives the correct numbers.
For example, the blue line finish at +1000 something and it should be -1077
The green line finish at something like +750 and it should -750

or I miss something lol