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New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

01-18-2008 , 04:53 PM
I suck at scripting but it seems to get the numbers right. I've made this foremost to toy around with SNG bubble situations. I think the bubble factor concept is very useful - it quantifies something previously intuitive.

Get it here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?6tnjfm0j2d0


Feel free to improve on the script.
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01-19-2008 , 01:11 AM
what exactly does it do?
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01-19-2008 , 01:34 AM
Sorry, I should have been clearer.



You input payout structure and stacksizes - it calculates ICM and Bubble Factor (cost of losing divided by gain of winning against a certain stack). This concept is introduced in Kill Everyone.

The scipt itself is a learning tool - you can play around with different scenarios to see how the presence of different stacks should influence your decisions on the bubble.
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01-19-2008 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Everlong
Sorry, I should have been clearer.



You input payout structure and stacksizes - it calculates ICM and Bubble Factor (cost of losing divided by gain of winning against a certain stack). This concept is introduced in Kill Everyone.

The scipt itself is a learning tool - you can play around with different scenarios to see how the presence of different stacks should influence your decisions on the bubble.
Looks good! You should post this on the overcards.com AHK wiki page.

Juk
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01-19-2008 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Everlong
Sorry, I should have been clearer.



You input payout structure and stacksizes - it calculates ICM and Bubble Factor (cost of losing divided by gain of winning against a certain stack). This concept is introduced in Kill Everyone.

The scipt itself is a learning tool - you can play around with different scenarios to see how the presence of different stacks should influence your decisions on the bubble.
ok. so if you're stack 3, you read across, and it says gogogo against stack 1, gogo against stack2, and stay the f*** out of stack4's way.
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01-19-2008 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PLOlover
ok. so if you're stack 3, you read across, and it says gogogo against stack 1, gogo against stack2, and stay the f*** out of stack4's way.
yeah in not so many words

Basically the book talks about "tournament odds". In order to play a pot against a stack against whom you have a bubble factor of for example 2 .00 you need to divide your pot odds by 2.00 to get your tournament odds.

The interesting thing is how the presence of shorties really skyrockets the medium stacks bf vs. bigstacks etc.


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Originally Posted by jukofyork
Looks good! You should post this on the overcards.com AHK wiki page.

Juk
Thanks!
I put a page up but am too thick to manage to put it on the AHK page. Help appretiated.
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01-19-2008 , 01:26 PM
Nice work Everlong, although I dont play sng's. No more Mod's??
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01-19-2008 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Nice work Everlong, although I dont play sng's. No more Mod's??
I am a jack of all trades. With jack I mean mediocre at much, excellent at nothing
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01-20-2008 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Everlong
I put a page up but am too thick to manage to put it on the AHK page. Help appretiated.
Nice job

I added a link on the main overcards.com AutoHotkey page, and added you to the NoSpammers list so you should be able to edit the main page in the future. Hopefully this works, I can't be sure since you are the only "NoSpammer" with a space in your name.
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01-21-2008 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Nice job

I added a link on the main overcards.com AutoHotkey page, and added you to the NoSpammers list so you should be able to edit the main page in the future. Hopefully this works, I can't be sure since you are the only "NoSpammer" with a space in your name.

Thanks!
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01-21-2008 , 07:34 PM
Thanks, Everlong.
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02-08-2008 , 02:34 PM
I've been thinking about this and it would be a really useful HUD. Don't know how hard it is to make a HUD for something like this, but I'd pay a lot for this. I imagine other sit&go players would be interested too.
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02-08-2008 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by a nonymous
I've been thinking about this and it would be a really useful HUD. Don't know how hard it is to make a HUD for something like this, but I'd pay a lot for this. I imagine other sit&go players would be interested too.

I would like to extend the calculator to 6 players and imagine that somewhere around 6 is where a hud might come in handy too. With more players left

a, the numbers aren't as interesting
b, the no of calculations skyrockets.

This hud would only display Your BF vs. the other remaining though, right?


I would like something like this as well. Nanochip has some really nice user-config overlays in FTS...I don't think I could make this work though.
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02-08-2008 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Everlong
I would like to extend the calculator to 6 players and imagine that somewhere around 6 is where a hud might come in handy too. With more players left

a, the numbers aren't as interesting
b, the no of calculations skyrockets.

This hud would only display Your BF vs. the other remaining though, right?


I would like something like this as well. Nanochip has some really nice user-config overlays in FTS...I don't think I could make this work though.
Yea, it'd be great if the calculator could do more than 4 players (even if it isn't made into a HUD).

Yes, I would want the HUD to recognize my stack and the other stacks and show me the BF vs. the remaining players.

It doesn't sound like it should be that difficult (for someone who knows how to do this stuff).

If anyone else is interested, post below so maybe someone will be interested in making this.
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02-08-2008 , 05:52 PM
there is an AHK HUD framework floating around u know ...

it is not too hard to parse the HH and auto-fill in the boxes / click "Calculate" in the original app - just depends how much CPU the calculations take if this is feasible. Although this would seem to cross the line in to "Realtime EV calculators" - a direction I'm not sure is either desirable at large or permitted in use...
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02-08-2008 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
there is an AHK HUD framework floating around u know ...

it is not too hard to parse the HH and auto-fill in the boxes / click "Calculate" in the original app - just depends how much CPU the calculations take if this is feasible. Although this would seem to cross the line in to "Realtime EV calculators" - a direction I'm not sure is either desirable at large or permitted in use...
Good point. I didn't really think it through. I'll just use it as a study tool unless the sites make it clear that Realtime EV calculators are acceptable. Do we have official responses from any sites yet? I know there's the thread where people are trying to get a response from PokerStars, but what about Full Tilt?
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02-15-2008 , 09:09 AM
Version 0.7 with support for 6 players uploaded today.

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/B...ctorCalculator

I haven't had the time to triple-check accuracy of calculations but I am 99% sure they should be fine barring some typo in the code.
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02-15-2008 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Everlong
Version 0.7 with support for 6 players uploaded today.

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/B...ctorCalculator

I haven't had the time to triple-check accuracy of calculations but I am 99% sure they should be fine barring some typo in the code.
Thanks, Everlong. This is very useful.
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02-17-2008 , 09:57 PM
Everlong,

I just downloaded v.0.7. It's not working for me. The window opens fine and looks like your screenshot/like it did last time but with 6 slots, but when I enter 5 stack sizes and hit Calculate, nothing happens.
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02-17-2008 , 09:59 PM
Ok, did some more testing, and it works for 6 players, but not 5 or 4.
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02-18-2008 , 02:14 AM
Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
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02-18-2008 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by a nonymous
Everlong,

I just downloaded v.0.7. It's not working for me. The window opens fine and looks like your screenshot/like it did last time but with 6 slots, but when I enter 5 stack sizes and hit Calculate, nothing happens.
You must enter 0 for stack 6 if you only want to use 5 players.
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02-18-2008 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by marand
You must enter 0 for stack 6 if you only want to use 5 players.
Ty.
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02-18-2008 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by marand
Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
Do you have a link to where I can find out how to do the math?
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02-18-2008 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by marand
Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
I found the problem. On line 846:

Stack2 := Stack2 + Stack6
should be changed to:
Stack2 := Stack2 + Stack2
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