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Old 01-15-2009, 02:20 AM   #976
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donkequity,

I think I may have a solution, I found a way to request higher privileges, it's possible that the VM_READ can be turned off, until explicitly requested. If you have git, I'm committing the patch right now. I have no idea if this actually works, or not, because I wasn't able to duplicate the problem to begin with, except by running FPDB as one user, and the poker site as another.. which created all sorts of other problems.

CheapFlop,

I don't seem to be able to get screenshots with 3 monitors enabled, so.. uh.. sorry. I was setting up for a nice awesome one, with the hand/profit graph, 8 tables across 2 sites with full HUDs, etc .. but.. fail. oh well.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:11 PM   #977
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Re: New Free/open source poker tracking software: FPDB - (Alpha9 - updates) - 10-Nov-

I have gathered some future feature requests as well as some questions.
Here they are:

really nice:
-It would be nice if the stats would be "glued" to the table, so that you could move the table and the stats will move with it. (this also holds for virtual desktops)
-Automatically kill the stats if the table is killed
-Position dependent stats, that means from which position does a player raise/fold/etc.

nice:
-EV winrate
-Showdown winnings
-Non showdown winnings

question/request:
-Are hands taken into the statisitics of a player if he "sits out"? If so I would reclaim that as a bug.
-Can I gather data although I am not at a table playing? If not this would be a really nice feature!

Thank you so far for your work.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:00 PM   #978
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hi, love this idea though i cant get it to work. i read so many forum posts tried so many things im sure ill have to start over. can someone please put the most up to date links\explanations. for uninstall\install procedures? i have winxp i downloaded fpdb (dec 2008) when i tried it said MySQL not detected so found that and installed then tried fpdb again it still said no MySql detected so i installed any way then i found\tried the installer it did nothing.i know little about computing so i would appreciate any help.(i think part of my problem might be i tried stuff from older links first or i just dont understand procedure) maybe this is too complex for a rookie like me to try and use at this stage in which case i thank you for letting me know and apologise for interupting your work. thanks again. p.s. maybe i dont know how to turn it on?
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:55 PM   #979
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really nice:
-It would be nice if the stats would be "glued" to the table, so that you could move the table and the stats will move with it. (this also holds for virtual desktops)
-Automatically kill the stats if the table is killed
This is working in the devel version for windows, we are having some issues under linux currently.

Killing the table stats is the primary issue here.
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-Position dependent stats, that means from which position does a player raise/fold/etc.
We agree, but this probably wont turn up for a couple of versions.

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nice:
-EV winrate
-Showdown winnings
-Non showdown winnings
Again we agree but this needs a bit of development work.
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question/request:
-Are hands taken into the statisitics of a player if he "sits out"? If so I would reclaim that as a bug.
For stars hands, no as the HH format doesn't include players sitting out. For FTP i'm not sure.

I know the p4e converter included sitting out players which is causing problems for Everleaf.
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-Can I gather data although I am not at a table playing? If not this would be a really nice feature!
I dont think we will ever support data mining directly as that might put the app in the crosshairs of FTP and PS banned list.

It does support importing hhs for tables you weren't playing at, so if you mine your own hands you should be able to import.
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:53 AM   #980
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Re: New Free/open source poker tracking software: FPDB - (Alpha9 - updates) - 10-Nov-

yes, moving window and killing hud with table works in windows, need to still figure out how to do it in X. (Windows has an easy way to test if a window exists or not, due to X's networked nature, it does not, and if we try to find this out, X kills the process for us for accessing a dead window)

If a site includes a player sitting out as being "in the hand", then it will tally an additional hand counted for each hand they are sitting out, which, i agree, potentially buggers up the numbers. On the other hand, if you have 5000 hands on a player, the majority of them are probably not sitting out. AFAIK, PS and FTP do not include this, but I'd have to study FTP's handhistory some. Everleaf does have a way to tell, however in the existing functional converter (over in the Software forum) that is not taken into account, so it appears that the player is in the hand, when it is converted into Stars format.

So, basically, the answer to that is, it depends on the site. If you are using some sort of converter to convert some other site's data into PS format, you may or may not be subject to that problem.

Also, AFAICT, Full Tilt does not record HH for hands that you are not involved in, however Everleaf does. I can't speak for PS.
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:52 PM   #981
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Re: New Free/open source poker tracking software: FPDB - (Alpha9 - updates) - 10-Nov-

Oh I have so many more ideas.
Do you have a feature request forum/board/anything best sorted like:
-graphics
-stats
-...
?!

Well two further ideas (that aren't necessary or really needed but would be nice, so it's not so important to implement them fast):

1. In the graph having a button named "Show sessions" would be nice.
Klicking on it, would show vertical bars indicating when a session have had started. On the y-axis you could additionally show the date.

2. Split up the graph relating to different sites. That means, one for PS one for FT and one that summarizes all sites.
Then the option to select which sites are summed up in the final graph would also be nice.

Btw. I really really(!) find it absolutely amazing that you have developed it for linux!

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I dont think we will ever support data mining directly as that might put the app in the crosshairs of FTP and PS banned list.
You're right, occluding an option to gather data without playing makes sense in the context of being banned from sites. I also had that thought but wasn't sure about it.

@ekdikeo
Although I am absolutely not into it, while you developing the Linux stuff, are you aware (possibly much better than I am) that there are certain changes going on how the next version of the X-Server will work?!
Sorry that I can't be any more precise but I only "heard" that they're going to change a lot of the underlying organization of the X-Server.


One last remark, is there any possibility to change the width of the columns?
Because I have gathered more than 999 hands which means that the number of hands is directly connected to the second column.
It appear something like this:
102445.7%


Again, thank you for your great work!

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:28 PM   #982
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Oh I have so many more ideas.
Do you have a feature request forum/board/anything best sorted like:
-graphics
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Not really - the closest think we have is probably: http://fpdb.wiki.****************/Roadmap
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1. In the graph having a button named "Show sessions" would be nice.
Klicking on it, would show vertical bars indicating when a session have had started. On the y-axis you could additionally show the date.
That should be doable, though it will probably get a bit cluttered when graphing 100k hands
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2. Split up the graph relating to different sites. That means, one for PS one for FT and one that summarizes all sites.
Then the option to select which sites are summed up in the final graph would also be nice.
Thats also not that difficult with the current grapher, I ended up with something similar by accident in testing.

Feel free to add your suggestions to the wiki page, and if you are inclined to try adding them yourself, join IRC #fpdb - I can explain how you would go about implementing.
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@ekdikeo
Although I am absolutely not into it, while you developing the Linux stuff, are you aware (possibly much better than I am) that there are certain changes going on how the next version of the X-Server will work?!
Sorry that I can't be any more precise but I only "heard" that they're going to change a lot of the underlying organization of the X-Server.
I am. The active development in X at the moment wont affect us.
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One last remark, is there any possibility to change the width of the columns?
Because I have gathered more than 999 hands which means that the number of hands is directly connected to the second column.
It appear something like this:
102445.7%


Again, thank you for your great work!
Left click drag the stat window in any of the recent gits.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:07 PM   #983
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Not really - the closest think we have is probably: http://fpdb.wiki.****************/Roadmap

That should be doable, though it will probably get a bit cluttered when graphing 100k hands
Right. So I have further suggestions .
Give the user the option to adjust the shown part of the x-axis.
So he/she maybe only want to display only the last 5000 Hands, or the whole or from
3000 to 8000.

An additional feature would be that the user could chose which x-axis unit he/she would like to have, three possible solutions (spontaneous idea):
1. Hands (standard)
2. Time (e.g. in Days)
3. Sessions

Well but all those features aren't necessary.

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Thats also not that difficult with the current grapher, I ended up with something similar by accident in testing.
Nice. And I thought so, that it would'nt be too difficult if fpdb has a good modularity.

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Not really - the closest think we have is probably: http://fpdb.wiki.****************/Roadmap

Feel free to add your suggestions to the wiki page, and if you are inclined to try adding them yourself, join IRC #fpdb - I can explain how you would go about implementing.
Thanks for the offer, wiki would be an option.
To be honest I am happy not to code at home in my spare time.
Well although sometimes thats not true, but there is enough other stuff I need to code .

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Left click drag the stat window in any of the recent gits.
It worked but the change didn't last permanently. Restarting fpdb the original size returns.
Also changing the size of the OnScreenDisplay jumbles up the seat-position of all OSDs .
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:20 PM   #984
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Re: New Free/open source poker tracking software: FPDB - (Alpha9 - updates) - 10-Nov-

Hi all - first time noob (obviously).

I have started to use fpdb, and it is great, but where can I find out what all the abbreviations in the HUD popup window stand for? The list at http://fpdb.****************/docs-abreviations.php only matches a couple items on the list in the HUD. Any help would be appreciated - thanks!

Update: Doh! I guess if I had just searched this thread, I would have found the list before asking stupid questions. Thanks anyway!

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Old 01-23-2009, 07:15 PM   #985
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Hi all - first time noob (obviously).

I have started to use fpdb, and it is great, but where can I find out what all the abbreviations in the HUD popup window stand for? The list at http://fpdb.****************/docs-abreviations.php only matches a couple items on the list in the HUD. Any help would be appreciated - thanks!

Update: Doh! I guess if I had just searched this thread, I would have found the list before asking stupid questions. Thanks anyway!
What JD figured out is that you can id the stats using the tool tip you get when you hover the mouse over the stat.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:18 PM   #986
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Re: New Free/open source poker tracking software: FPDB - (Alpha9 - updates) - 10-Nov-

Where do I get the patch?

Could not delete VM_READ as per previous post as could not access, just came up black screen with reading Hud.txt and then enter to continue.



[QUOTE=ekdikeo;8177316]donkequity,

I think I may have a solution, I found a way to request higher privileges, it's possible that the VM_READ can be turned off, until explicitly requested. If you have git, I'm committing the patch right now. I have no idea if this actually works, or not, because I wasn't able to duplicate the problem to begin with, except by running FPDB as one user, and the poker site as another.. which created all sorts of other problems.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:52 PM   #987
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I found a virus - perror.exe in mysql. Now hud has started to work.

Having difficulties moving hud windows around. holding down left mouse and attempting to move does nothing.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:10 PM   #988
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software is super freezy for me also. If I look at a webpage then open up my table the table will not appear, only the HUD stats and I get timed out. will have to shutdown fpdb at this point as can not gain table access.
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:05 PM   #989
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I found a virus - perror.exe in mysql. Now hud has started to work.

Having difficulties moving hud windows around. holding down left mouse and attempting to move does nothing.
You found a virus? Meh looks like I might just skip this program after all ...
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:16 PM   #990
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You found a virus? Meh looks like I might just skip this program after all ...
lol, feel free to skip. The program is open source and all code is easily viewable by anyone. The found a virus comment above had nothing to do specifically with this program.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:50 PM   #991
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You found a virus? Meh looks like I might just skip this program after all ...
As xaiviax said, that file did not come from fpdb. We don't distribute any .exe files.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:57 PM   #992
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software is super freezy for me also. If I look at a webpage then open up my table the table will not appear, only the HUD stats and I get timed out. will have to shutdown fpdb at this point as can not gain table access.
I have had one other report of this freezing phenomena. I worked with him for several hours trying to sleuth it out. I see two things with his setup:
  1. His PC is fairly underpowered. athlon 3000+, XP, 512M.
  2. He is running a bunch of other stuff besides poker and fpdb. He also runs mysql on the poker box (as do most people).
I was able to play on his machine for a good hour with no problems. He sits down to play, opens more stuff, types in to windows, etc., and gets a freeze. I am afraid we have a problem on marginal pcs, but I'm not sure where to attack it.

donkequity: can you tell me about your machine and how you are using it? thanks
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One more thing: I am preparing to release alpha10. The current contents of my git repo will become that release if nothing really ugly shows up in the next day or so. Those of you who use git should go ahead and pull now and let me know if you see any new or unexpected problems. I think this is a pretty big improvement on alpha9.

My git repo is here.

Get git for windows here.

Use this command to make a new git repo on your local box:
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:26 PM   #994
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Just a note:
I run fpdb on an AMD Athlon 2000+ (i think it is 2000+, it has 1.6Ghz and 1GB RAM) using Kubuntu 8.04.
And I can use fpdb (Pokerstars) without any trouble for hours.
(I think my longest session was about 3-4hrs).
And I also have many other stuff open (browser, music-player, pdf's, edit-files, ... )

Only the calculation and displaying of the graph takes some time (although I only have about 6000 hands), this could get worse when I have collected more hands.
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:22 AM   #995
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One more thing: I am preparing to release alpha10. The current contents of my git repo will become that release if nothing really ugly shows up in the next day or so. Those of you who use git should go ahead and pull now and let me know if you see any new or unexpected problems. I think this is a pretty big improvement on alpha9.
I have used this version for a few sessions and it looks very good. I've been meaning to comment a bit more regularly but work has been keeping me too busy. In the meantime there have been improvements, I see.

The little boxes around the statistics in the HUD are a good idea. Something I would like to see added is the ability to switch off the percent-signs (where applicable); it just clutters the statistics when "%" is repeated redundantly.

The tabulated view of statistics is useful, but too wide. It needs a scrollbar or something of the sort, otherwise some of the statistics are invisible.

What I'd most like to see is a solution to the crashes in X-Windows. As things stand I have to close each HUD separately before leaving the table, which is a slow and repetitive process.
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Just a note:
I run fpdb on an AMD Athlon 2000+ (i think it is 2000+, it has 1.6Ghz and 1GB RAM) using Kubuntu 8.04.
And I can use fpdb (Pokerstars) without any trouble for hours.
(I think my longest session was about 3-4hrs).
And I also have many other stuff open (browser, music-player, pdf's, edit-files, ... )
I test on a similarly powered machine and have played ~50k hands with fpdb on Linux without any "freezy" behavior, even when I have intentionally saturated the cpu with other tasks. fpdb performs well under Linux, but we seem to have a mysterious problem on some windows boxes. BTW: I played for about 3 hours yesterday on this same box under windows xp. I loaded up the cpu with processes so that it was running at about 95%, as reported by task manager. I was not able to reproduce the freezy behavior.
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Only the calculation and displaying of the graph takes some time (although I only have about 6000 hands), this could get worse when I have collected more hands.
The time needed to make a graph is approximately linear with the number of hands in the dataset. I recently ran a test:
73k hands -> 31 sec to make the graph = 2.4k hands/sec
8k hands -> 3.8 sec = 2.1k hands/sec
Most of the time is consumed in the database manager = mysql in this case.
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The little boxes around the statistics in the HUD are a good idea.
Those are called frames in gtk-speak. There is a bug with windows that causes the tool tips to not close properly in some cases--very annoying. Putting the frames around the stats seem to reduce that significantly. I will probably make those frames optional with a flag in the config file, because I know some users will hate them.
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Something I would like to see added is the ability to switch off the percent-signs (where applicable); it just clutters the statistics when "%" is repeated redundantly.
My intention is to completely rewrite the code that displays the stats to make it much more flexible and configurable. I am still thinking about how ambitious I want to be when I do that.
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The tabulated view of statistics is useful, but too wide. It needs a scrollbar or something of the sort, otherwise some of the statistics are invisible.
Yes, this is mildly annoying. You can get all the stats in the window by expanding it, but it has to expand pretty wide. I have only spent about 3 minutes looking at this code and didn't see what was needed to fix it.
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What I'd most like to see is a solution to the crashes in X-Windows. As things stand I have to close each HUD separately before leaving the table, which is a slow and repetitive process.
I thought I had fixed this by turning off the feature where the HUD follows the table when the table is dragged (that is still turned on in Windows). (But you still have to kill HUDs manually.) I just did a check on my system and I don't get a crash when I close a PokerStars client table window while the HUD is still up. My system is a fully-patched Linux Fedora 10. BTW, I have been studying the doc on X and python and we might be able to fix the underlying problem. That's another thing for me to look at after I get this release out.
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Is there also 0.10 alpha for Linux available?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:46 PM   #999
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In this latest git, the right click popups don't ever go away (until full hud program is closed).

Also, is there a way to make the hud window sizes and fonts smaller?
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In this latest git, the right click popups don't ever go away (until full hud program is closed).

Also, is there a way to make the hud window sizes and fonts smaller?
In the latest(which will be v0.10 later tonight):
right click closes the popups--for me anyway

shift-left drag resizes the stat windows
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