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Old 05-01-2006, 02:18 PM   #426
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

Ok, I finally got mine working. Great program thanks alot by the way.

EmpirePokerMaster.exe did not work for me, it kept finding the tables but not importing any new hands.

Pokernow ended up working and now everything seems to be going good.

When I want to play however since I didn't go the route of changing the HHF's to text and putting it in my HH folder, do I just have to close up the program and play and do my own auto importing as usual with my play? If I want to mine while I play but I have the HHF files being written to a folder on my desktop, what happens? It duplicates the files and throws the stats off? Should I just do this if I don't want duplicates:

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(1) Copy FreePHG.exe and run.bat into the hand history folder which is located under the Party Poker folder (it is where your own hand histories get stored).

(2) Edit run.bat to look like this:

@echo off
FreePHG.exe -e txt

(3) Run run.bat, and you should now start to get the observed HHs saved as .txt files.

(4) Setup PT to import as usual from the hand history folder.


Basically am just unsure of what would happen when I go to play and try to still datamine.
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:18 PM   #427
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

I have a problem.

PT seems to be importing hands but when browsing through the players' general info in the database I've noticed that just one out of like 15-20 players does have some data stored about him.

These few players have been recorded as they played only several hands.

I've created a pokernow.exe dummy in the FPHG folder and used the auto-import party & affiliates icon ( the PP chip icon).

Could this be the source of the problem?
I've switched to using the lightning bolt icon now and I'm waiting to see the results.

Thank you!
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:20 PM   #428
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

How did you find pokernow? I went to their website, but it wanted me to download partypoker.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:36 PM   #429
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

i just used what everyone else said and made a notepad and saved it as .exe, then naming it pokernow
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:46 PM   #430
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I didn't download it.

You just make a PokerNow.exe file.

Open Win explorer. Go to TOOLS > FOLDER OPTIONS > VIEW.

Make sure the option HIDE EXTENSIONS FOR KNOWN FILE TYPES is UNCHECKED.

Then right click in your FPHG folder and NEW > TEXT DOC.

Change PokerNow.txt to PokerNow.exe.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:57 PM   #431
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ah ha, thanks. Now I'm able to point it to pokernow.exe so it should work fine. I wonder why empire.exe doesn't work anymore? That's just weird
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thanks for the help with this. working fine.
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:16 PM   #433
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ah ha, thanks. Now I'm able to point it to pokernow.exe so it should work fine. I wonder why empire.exe doesn't work anymore? That's just weird
I think it's bc PT has been updated to work with the new empire.

PS: I am sorry but I'm not much help with fixing PT problems, I can help fix FPHG problems/bugs as it is under my control, but when it comes to PT I am no wiser than anybody else here.

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Old 05-01-2006, 07:17 PM   #434
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

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Ok, I finally got mine working. Great program thanks alot by the way.

EmpirePokerMaster.exe did not work for me, it kept finding the tables but not importing any new hands.

Pokernow ended up working and now everything seems to be going good.

When I want to play however since I didn't go the route of changing the HHF's to text and putting it in my HH folder, do I just have to close up the program and play and do my own auto importing as usual with my play? If I want to mine while I play but I have the HHF files being written to a folder on my desktop, what happens? It duplicates the files and throws the stats off? Should I just do this if I don't want duplicates:

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(1) Copy FreePHG.exe and run.bat into the hand history folder which is located under the Party Poker folder (it is where your own hand histories get stored).

(2) Edit run.bat to look like this:

@echo off
FreePHG.exe -e txt

(3) Run run.bat, and you should now start to get the observed HHs saved as .txt files.

(4) Setup PT to import as usual from the hand history folder.


Basically am just unsure of what would happen when I go to play and try to still datamine.
I don't think PT will actually import the duplicate hands, but if you want to make sure FPHG does not write hands you are involved in then make sure you have v0.06 of FPHG and change step 4 to edit run.bat like so:

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FreePHG.exe -o -e txt

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Old 05-01-2006, 07:20 PM   #435
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Re: Problem w/ pokertracker and fphg

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I have a problem.

PT seems to be importing hands but when browsing through the players' general info in the database I've noticed that just one out of like 15-20 players does have some data stored about him.

These few players have been recorded as they played only several hands.

I've created a pokernow.exe dummy in the FPHG folder and used the auto-import party & affiliates icon ( the PP chip icon).

Could this be the source of the problem?
I've switched to using the lightning bolt icon now and I'm waiting to see the results.

Thank you!
If you open up the files FPHG is making, is FPHG saving the files, if so then it is something to do with PT (which I'm afraid I can't help with, as I have no idea what has been done to PT to break the importing procedure for observed hands...).

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Old 05-01-2006, 07:42 PM   #436
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Please read this before sending me a PM about PT problems

I would just like to make something 100% clear, as I seem to be getting tons of emails and PMs asking me stuff which I cannot help with:

I am not in any way affiliated to either PokerTracker or PokerAceHUD, but people seem to think I am some how and keep asking me to help fix problems I have no idea about...

I wrote FPHG to simply save hand histories for any piece of software capable of importing them (ie: PokerTracker, PokerManager and PokerOffice). If the problem is with FPHG doing something wrong then I can fix it, but if it is some strange problem with PT not importing the hands then I have no more idea of what PT Pat has changed than anybody else...

So all I am asking is that people direct their emails and PM to the person who can actaully help (I don't know anymore about PT or PAHUD than anybody else here...). I am still happy to help with setting up FPHG, and I am considering adding a nicer GUI to avoid all the questions about using batch files and command line arguments.

This is just a selection of my PM's that I have got over the last few days:

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I don't understand how to use options like -6max and -s and -d, etc.

How do I input these? As a 6max player, I need my PAHUD to display for 6max tables
Like I said above, I have no affiliation to PAHUD so this question should be directed to PokerAce Josh. As far as I know PAHUD now has options to treat tables as 6max (and so does PT) and the -6max option I added may or may not help PAHUD work - I simply don't know, if you ask him then he can tell you.

As far as using the options, then I have explained this maybe 3/4 times in the last few days alone, in 3/4 different threads, but it basically consists of editing run.bat and then running run.bat, and if this doesn't work then create a shortcut in windows and edit the Target option to have these command line options on.

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can u tell me how to permanently input the hhs into my database? I have the lightning thing set up to read my observed hands and everything is displayin properly giving meedge even before i sit in but when i close everything and then check for a certain player from my observed games, I dont see them??? I guess what Im tryin to say is that I can see the stats when I open pahud but the observed hands(players etc) is not in my ptracker MY DATABASE. All I see there are the ones where I actually sat in and played. I guess as long as I see their stat on pahud everything is cool.
Again, this is 100% a PAHUD/PT problem, so this should be directed at PT Pat/PA Josh (not me!).

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I had it working fine for months. I got back into town and noticed that pokertracker wasn't importing any files from the observed tables, then I checked to see what directory it was looking in. If I go to pokertracker, program file locations, browse and then to freephg the only file or folder it shows it freephg v0.06. It doesn't show the empire.exe icon anymore even though it's there! I don't know if this happened when I updated it to version 4 or if it's been this way all along. Have you had any other issues like this?
Again, I cannot help here. This should be directed to PT Pat.

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sorry to have to PM u and bother u but i am having fits getting PT to import the HH, when i do it says reading 6 files........then 0 hands were imported, sorry again for the noob questions, but i am computer illiterate and if u could help me with this one problem id be on my merry way and have everything up n running that i'll ever need thank you very much
Again, PT problem and I cannot help...

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Old 05-01-2006, 07:57 PM   #437
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Re: FPHG

ok so how do i "edit run.bat"?
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:00 PM   #438
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ok so how do i "edit run.bat"?
The same way as you edit any other file on your PC.

Just right click on it and their is an option which says edit, if that's not their then use the "Open with" option and tell it to open with notepad or wordpad.

As soon as I get time, then I'll add a GUI and option setting will be easier (I decided against this before, but their seems no reason to not now).

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Old 05-01-2006, 08:58 PM   #439
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Re: FPHG

It's easier to use the lighteneing bold in PT than to do the whole "pokernow.exe" hack.


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Old 05-02-2006, 04:00 PM   #440
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back at party clearing bonuses. found games excessively easy to beat... I guess I've adapted since the "rock garden" brewhaha of the past 12 months. going to stay awhile, even with that horrible rake structure.

anyway, thanks a lot for writing this, I'm a dirty dataminer again.
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:56 PM   #441
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[OT] \"rock-ification\"

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back at party clearing bonuses. found games excessively easy to beat... I guess I've adapted since the "rock garden" brewhaha of the past 12 months. going to stay awhile, even with that horrible rake structure.
One of the sad things about being a self confessed data mining adict (like me! ), is that I now have so much data over the last two years that I can plot the "rock-ification" of Party's micro-limit full-ring games:

For the games I played in, then 0.5/1 was at 44% avg VPIP, and 1/2 was at 37% avg VPIP two years ago (and I used to think these were tight compared to Pacific's games!). I watched those numbers drop to the stage where I though [censored] this and went off to play 6max...

Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened?

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs?

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:05 AM   #442
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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened?

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs?

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk
I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.

Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....
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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened?

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs?

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk
I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.
I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....
Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now ).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading

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I'm having difficulties with either pokertracker or FPGH. When I'm at my computer, everything works fine. But when I leave for one hour and come back, I take a look at pokertracker auto-import page and see this :

Starting import, 8 files found...
Timer fired...05/05/2006 12:39:06 AM
Import Finished - 9 file(s) read - 0 new hand(s) were imported.

And it goes on for the whole hour. But at the moment I start being it front of my computer, it starts working, importing about 10 hands/minute.

I am so confused. It doesnt make any sense. Do you have an explanation? Is it a pokertracker issue?
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auto-import option, using a fake pokernow.exe
Anybody come accross this before, if so can you post how you got it working.

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Old 05-06-2006, 02:04 AM   #445
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I was having that problem until I had fphg save the files as .txt instead of .hhf...that solved it for me
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Old 05-06-2006, 04:29 AM   #446
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Re: [OT] \"rock-ification\"

my stat says im beting that level for a handsome amount of 18bb/100 over 15k.... I scan for 30 minutes and sit in!!!!

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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened?

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs?

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk
I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.
I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....
Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now ).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading

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Then again my rake at that limit is almost as high as my profit, YUK!!!!!!!!!!
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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened?

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs?

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk
I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.
I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....
Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now ).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading

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A FPHG bug sent via a PM

Just posting this here to remind myself, and if anybody else has seen any other strange table names, plz post them here to:

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By the way there's also a small bug.. which isn't really your fault but is fixable When you play on the table Mascot?s Angel (it's a $109 SNG), FPHG doesn't save this table at all because of the ? in the filename. Party doesn't either, but it can be got around by simply replacing it with a space, at least, PHT does this It would be great if FPHG did, too.
I never saw this, but I can see why i causes problems; as a "?" is not allowed in windows filenames, but it is easy to fix (I'll do it for the next test version).

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Old 05-06-2006, 09:11 PM   #449
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Re: A FPHG bug sent via a PM

QUESTION:
Downloaded the software and then unzipped it.
The V.06 folder is on my desktop and it shows its running but the only .hff files showing up in my folder are ones with the name of the table. Should there be a file for every single hand?
Am I doing something wrong?

Haven't even gotten to the import to PT yet.
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QUESTION:
Downloaded the software and then unzipped it.
The V.06 folder is on my desktop and it shows its running but the only .hff files showing up in my folder are ones with the name of the table. Should there be a file for every single hand?
Am I doing something wrong?

Haven't even gotten to the import to PT yet.
Every hand played at a certain table gets appended to the same file (with the table's name). One hands per file would get slow eventually I think.

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