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03-25-2011 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by retroguy
hey S!K
I bought your software the other week before id seen this thread, but i bought it not knowing it was purely for cash games. My fault i guess i should have trialled it before buying lol. But i read your adding tournament bankroll support? this is great and what i had intended it for as im purely a sng player. When do you think this will be released? and by tournament i presume you mean sng aswell yes?
Also the block third party apps addition is genius. i was just looking for a piece of software like that. cant wait.
How do i get a login for your vote for new features forum
cheers
Hi Retroguy,

Thanks for the (slightly misguided) purchase! We will start working on tournament support next month and then shortly after that we will expand on the Bankroll Manager feature to dynamicly block stake levels (below and above) based on how many buy-ins you have.

Glad you like the app blocker idea, I can't take credit however, that was a user submission.I will happily add the feature though!

Looks like you figured out the User Voice forum and we are on the same page with the feature request.

Thanks for the feedback!

S!K
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03-25-2011 , 02:27 PM
Does this work on macs? I downloaded the trial and am having trouble running it. I use winebottler for pc programs.
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03-25-2011 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Nordgir,

At first thought I was completely on board with this, and was just about to add it to the User Voice forum. However after giving it more thought, don't you think incorporating this kind of flexibility would open you up to the temptation of continuously raising your Session Peak amount until you have lost all your profits altogether?

S!K
Hi S!K

You are right, possibility to change\delete StopLoss from peak rules can do that
But what about possibility to only ADD new StopLoss from peak rules during active session?
Seems good , don't it?
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03-25-2011 , 04:33 PM
Moreover, the ability to add a new StopLoss fom start rule may also be useful.
There are times when I meant to edit the options, but forgot to until I already started playing.
Generally, what about the ability to add (not change\delete) any new rules at any given time?
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03-26-2011 , 04:23 AM
Hi S!K,

is it possible to add something like:

stoploss:

If I loose xx bb = lockout for x hour(s)
If I loose another xx bb = lockout for x hour(s), and so on ??

I think that might be a really nice feature.

-Kuta
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03-26-2011 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by maddog876
Does this work on macs? I downloaded the trial and am having trouble running it. I use winebottler for pc programs.
Hey Maddog,

Tilt Breaker does not support Mac. As far as Windows emulation goes, it's entirely possible, but I would be pretty surprised if it did. Really depends on how good the windows emulation is, I've never used Wine or Wine Bottler on Mac, so I have no personal experience to go on. TB does a lot of non-standard stuff to accomplish what it does that most regular apps wouldn't be attempting, which means the features it uses would probably be a low priority for the people developing Wine.


S!K
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03-26-2011 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by nordgir
Hi S!K

You are right, possibility to change\delete StopLoss from peak rules can do that
But what about possibility to only ADD new StopLoss from peak rules during active session?
Seems good , don't it?
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Originally Posted by nordgir
Moreover, the ability to add a new StopLoss fom start rule may also be useful.
There are times when I meant to edit the options, but forgot to until I already started playing.
Generally, what about the ability to add (not change\delete) any new rules at any given time?
Hey Nordgir,

Thanks for replying. I think you are asking for two different things here:
  1. Flexibility to lock in a specific $ or % amount of your current session's profit, instead of only being able to protect your profit by setting a Stop Loss from Session Peak before the session starts
  2. You want a larger grace period before all the Auto-Break rules lock in at the session start

I think I have a solution for #1 and we can definitely do #2. Let me know if my assumptions are correct, and then I will post my solution for #1 once I flesh it out a bit more.

thanks,

S!K
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03-26-2011 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuta
Hi S!K,

is it possible to add something like:

stoploss:

If I loose xx bb = lockout for x hour(s)
If I loose another xx bb = lockout for x hour(s), and so on ??

I think that might be a really nice feature.

-Kuta
Hi Kuta,

Clarify this for me plz, what is the time frame for your example?
  1. Is your example happening in a singular session, i.e. you want to have a stop loss for $100 (1hr lockdown), and then another stop loss for $300 (4hr lockdown) as backup in case you lose a couple monster pots within a small time frame before TB even locks you out from your first $100 stop loss?
  2. Or is the time frame for your example within a larger time frame like a 24hr period, i.e. you have your single session stop loss points, but you also want to have a stop loss for a 24hr period with a separate lockdown so you can prevent play when you are having a horrible day?
thanks,

S!K
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03-26-2011 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hi Kuta,

Clarify this for me plz, what is the time frame for your example?
  1. Or is the time frame for your example within a larger time frame like a 24hr period, i.e. you have your single session stop loss points, but you also want to have a stop loss for a 24hr period with a separate lockdown so you can prevent play when you are having a horrible day?
thanks,

S!K
This one.

But I didn't mean exactly a single stop-loss for the day. More like a
ascending order of stop-losses for the day. I try to explain.

I put in 3 stop-loss limits (always valid for 24hr).
  1. 200bb loss = lockout for 1 hour
  2. 200bb loss = lockout for 2 hour
  3. 100bb loss = lockout for 5 hour

Now I start a session and loose the first 200bb and have to take an 1 hour break. But now, if I start my next session (at the same day), the first stop-loss isn't activatet anymore and if I reach the 200bb limit again, I have to take the 2 hour break and in the next session the 5 hour break, if I reach
the 100bb limit.

Sorry, for the broken english, but I hope you understand what I mean?!

-Kuta
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03-26-2011 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hey Nordgir,

Thanks for replying. I think you are asking for two different things here:
  1. Flexibility to lock in a specific $ or % amount of your current session's profit, instead of only being able to protect your profit by setting a Stop Loss from Session Peak before the session starts
  2. You want a larger grace period before all the Auto-Break rules lock in at the session start

I think I have a solution for #1 and we can definitely do #2. Let me know if my assumptions are correct, and then I will post my solution for #1 once I flesh it out a bit more.

thanks,

S!K
Hi S!K!

#1 absolutely right
I meant that the ability to add new trailing stop allow only cut Stop Loss from Session Peak.

#2 no

Those post in User Voice forum is not mine. I don't want a larger grace period. I want not grace button ADD during the session. This allow to cut stop loss, when I have loosed last session, have to install smaller stop loss for active session but forgot to do it before start playing.

Very sorry about my English.
Sometimes I use copy\paste english phrases
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03-26-2011 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuta
This one.

But I didn't mean exactly a single stop-loss for the day. More like a
ascending order of stop-losses for the day. I try to explain.

I put in 3 stop-loss limits (always valid for 24hr).
  1. 200bb loss = lockout for 1 hour
  2. 200bb loss = lockout for 2 hour
  3. 100bb loss = lockout for 5 hour

Now I start a session and loose the first 200bb and have to take an 1 hour break. But now, if I start my next session (at the same day), the first stop-loss isn't activatet anymore and if I reach the 200bb limit again, I have to take the 2 hour break and in the next session the 5 hour break, if I reach
the 100bb limit.

Sorry, for the broken english, but I hope you understand what I mean?!

-Kuta
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Originally Posted by nordgir
Hi S!K!

#1 absolutely right
I meant that the ability to add new trailing stop allow only cut Stop Loss from Session Peak.

#2 no

Those post in User Voice forum is not mine. I don't want a larger grace period. I want not grace button ADD during the session. This allow to cut stop loss, when I have loosed last session, have to install smaller stop loss for active session but forgot to do it before start playing.

Very sorry about my English.
Sometimes I use copy\paste english phrases
Ok, got it. Let me think about how I could implement these.

thanks,
S!K
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03-26-2011 , 01:46 PM
Thanks S!K.

I can't wait to try the next version, with some nice new features!
I really like Tiltbreaker!

Keep up the good work!

-Kuta
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03-27-2011 , 11:10 AM
Hi.When Tiltbreaker wil lsupport everleaf?
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03-27-2011 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitiay
Hi.When Tiltbreaker wil lsupport everleaf?
Hi Vitiay,

I have no planned time frame for Everest support at this point. The general factors for supporting a new site are:
  • Market Share
  • User Demand
  • Development time

I judge User demand from our User Voice forum and from the various posts and emails I get. Feel free to add Everest to our forum!

thanks,

S!K
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03-27-2011 , 07:19 PM
Hi S!K,
Is ipoker network on your support site plan?And can the one table stop loss function be released in the last few days of this month?
Best wishes!
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03-28-2011 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tuliplife
Hi S!K,
Is ipoker network on your support site plan?And can the one table stop loss function be released in the last few days of this month?
Best wishes!
Hey Tulip,

Ipoker is one of my top priorities. I plan to start discovery work in mid April to develop a support strategy. We should release the single table stop loss by Friday.

Thanks!
S!K
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03-28-2011 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Vitiay
Hi.When Tiltbreaker wil lsupport everleaf?
Quote:
Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hi Vitiay,

I have no planned time frame for Everest support at this point. The general factors for supporting a new site are:
  • Market Share
  • User Demand
  • Development time

I judge User demand from our User Voice forum and from the various posts and emails I get. Feel free to add Everest to our forum!

thanks,

S!K
Whoops, same answer for Everleaf though.

S!K
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03-28-2011 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hey Tulip,

Ipoker is one of my top priorities. I plan to start discovery work in mid April to develop a support strategy. We should release the single table stop loss by Friday.

Thanks!
S!K
Hi S!K,

are some other new features, beside the single table stop loss, planned for the next release?

-Kuta
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03-28-2011 , 10:31 PM
Is there a way to set stop losses after stop gains. I.e. If I make x i dont want to drop below y. I want to set this, but could use some help. Do you guys offer support via IM or skype?

Thanks
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03-28-2011 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuta
Hi S!K,

are some other new features, beside the single table stop loss, planned for the next release?

-Kuta
Hey Kuta,

Right now the Single Table Stop Loss feature is the main one, plus some additional backend bug fixes that we have been working on. I am trying to see f we can squeeze in the "Maximum # of Tables Open" rule to the Bankroll Manager in this release as well.

I'll keep you posted!

S!K
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03-29-2011 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ALC2010
Is there a way to set stop losses after stop gains. I.e. If I make x i dont want to drop below y. I want to set this, but could use some help. Do you guys offer support via IM or skype?

Thanks
Hey ALC,

Right now you can set it up so that if you lose x $ or bbs from the peak of your session (i.e. the current highest point of your session in terms of how much $ /bbs you have won) Tilt Breaker will end your session for you.

I have recently come to realize that that is not the optimal way for that to work, so we will be adding a "Qualifying Peak" value in an upcoming build, possibly the next build release, so that you can set an amount of $ or bbs that you must win before Tilt Breaker would start tracking your Stop Loss from Session Peak. For example, let's say you have a Stop Loss from Start for $300, a Session Peak from $150, and a Qualifying Peak of $100. Under this scenario, if you win $99 and then lose $300, you will not hit your Stop Loss from Peak (since $99 doesn't qualify as a "peak") and you will still be $99 away from hitting your Stop Loss from Start. Under the current build, you would be locked out for losing $300 from $99 because $99 would automatically be considered your peak.

In the mean time, here is how you set up the Session Peak Stop Loss currently:


  1. Choose "Stop Loss"
  2. Input the maximum amount of $ or bbs you can lose before you want Tilt Breaker to end your session
  3. Choose "Session Peak"
  4. Choose if you want Tilt Breaker to check "Sit Out Next Hand" or "Sit Out Next Big Blind", or if you only want an Alarm (notification) with no lockdown
  5. Choose how long of a break you want to take,
  6. Select "Add" to add your rule
  7. All of your current rules will be displayed here
  8. Hit "ok" to activate the rule(s)

For additional set up help please see the following tutorials:
If you need more help we can set up a skype session

thanks!

S!K
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03-29-2011 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hey Kuta,

Right now the Single Table Stop Loss feature is the main one, plus some additional backend bug fixes that we have been working on. I am trying to see f we can squeeze in the "Maximum # of Tables Open" rule to the Bankroll Manager in this release as well.

I'll keep you posted!

S!K
***Update***

Small change of plans. I'm going to delay the build release until Sunday/Monday, but instead of only getting the Single Table Stop Loss you will now get:
  • Single Table Stop Loss
  • # of table limit
  • Qualifying Peak
  • FTP table closing automation bug fix for all languages

I think it's worth the wait,

S!K
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03-29-2011 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
***Update***

Small change of plans. I'm going to delay the build release until Sunday/Monday, but instead of only getting the Single Table Stop Loss you will now get:
  • Single Table Stop Loss
  • # of table limit
  • Qualifying Peak
  • FTP table closing automation bug fix for all languages

I think it's worth the wait,

S!K
Awesome, thank you
That sounds really good.
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03-29-2011 , 10:59 AM
S!K!Can you add to Sunday/Monday release two options:
1) i post it at http://tiltbreaker.uservoice.com/for.../filter/recent

1)!!!!Freeze table when it collapse began to have less players that should at start! Very profitable:
For example i love and play 6 max ( 9-10 max tables) VERY GOOD but play heds-up and 4-max tables(for 9 max tables i play worse when it become 6 orless players) . MAKE SO that when i play 6 max table and table collapse to 4 or 2 players Tilt breaker WILL FREEZE(not ban) me at table UNTIL at this table will be minimum 5 players. It is very tilted to play heds up when you discipline is 6 mAX. !!!!!SO with 9-10 max table. WHen it will 6 or less players at 9-10max table i should BE FREEZED at this table until it will have 7 or more players.
P.S. please dont forget make it for 9-10 max tables .

2)!!!!Can you make else for Sunday/Monday release : limit of max tables that player can play? It will very cool and profitable.

P.S. how much time it takes to add one supported network. I wait else Entraction and Everleaf. When it can be? I read that you say that ipoker will be at summer. So this two networks that i wrote will be only maybe next winter or end of automn?
Thanks
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03-29-2011 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitiay
S!K!Can you add to Sunday/Monday release two options:
1) i post it at http://tiltbreaker.uservoice.com/for.../filter/recent

1)!!!!Freeze table when it collapse began to have less players that should at start! Very profitable:
For example i love and play 6 max ( 9-10 max tables) VERY GOOD but play heds-up and 4-max tables(for 9 max tables i play worse when it become 6 orless players) . MAKE SO that when i play 6 max table and table collapse to 4 or 2 players Tilt breaker WILL FREEZE(not ban) me at table UNTIL at this table will be minimum 5 players. It is very tilted to play heds up when you discipline is 6 mAX. !!!!!SO with 9-10 max table. WHen it will 6 or less players at 9-10max table i should BE FREEZED at this table until it will have 7 or more players.
P.S. please dont forget make it for 9-10 max tables .
This would be pretty difficult to do, especially the "freeze' part. We actually had a "Freeze" for SONH in an earlier build so you could not uncheck it and keep playing during the Delay Timer, but it would occasionally freeze up the action buttons as well making people time out; so this feature is pretty dangerous. I will have to see some considerable demand for this in the User Voice forum before I consider adding this one.

Thanks for using the User Voice forum though, much appreciated!


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Originally Posted by Vitiay
2)!!!!Can you make else for Sunday/Monday release : limit of max tables that player can play? It will very cool and profitable.
This will be added in the next build release. This is the feature I mean when I say "# of Tables Limit"

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Originally Posted by Vitiay
P.S. how much time it takes to add one supported network. I wait else Entraction and Everleaf. When it can be? I read that you say that ipoker will be at summer. So this two networks that i wrote will be only maybe next winter or end of automn?
Thanks
It really depends on the site and how it's made. Supporting the Networks like iPoker, Merge, OnGame, etc will probably be more difficult and will probably be missing some luxuries like automatic SONH/SONBB. I can't give you a time frame for Entraction or Everleaf at the moment, but my methodology is to add sites based on a combination of :
  • Market Share
  • User Demand
  • Cost to support

Thanks for the input Vitiay, I hope you continue to participate!

S!K
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