Thanks for all the feedback, and I'm glad you like the program

A clear bet-box hotkey would be super simple to add and is definitely a good idea. We also might just add a feature where the first time you hit any numpad key it clears the betbox, sends focus to the bet box, and puts in the number you typed so that you can just start typing bet sizes into your numpad.

The ignore antes option is definitely some we want to add and have been working on. I think there is a very good chance that this will be in the next update, but we haven't actually sat down to plan things out yet so its too early to say for sure.

A hotkey to move a table out of the stack is another feature that has been getting a lot of requests and is near the top of the list. We're still not sure how to design the user interface for this nicely so if you have any suggestions for what your dream "hotkeys to set tables aside while stacking interface would be" (ie do you want multiple hotkeys for multiple locations to send tables, just on hotkey and one location, multiple locations and tableninja sends tables to the next open slot with one hotkey, do you want to type in coordinates or is there a simpler way to chose the location, etc), definitely let me know.

Also about not minimizing the lobby, you CAN move it completely off your screen, it doesn't need to be visible or anything, just make sure not to actually minimize it.

Thanks,

Tarath

I guess dream scenario would be unlimited slots outside the stack, hotkeyA moves active table to first available slot, resizing if necessary. HotkeyB returns table to stack and optionally ripples remaining tables back towards the first spots ala PlaceMint. You could also mimic Placemint's setup interface where the slot is visible and resizable; saving the coordinates and size as you move it. That's the most elegant way I can think of to do it..personally I'd perfer you slap it together with x and y boxes and get done sooner, perhaps the latter as a step 1 toward the former.

I cant see any reason for make it even easier - "HotkeyA" and "HotkeyB" can be the same hotkey , just work opposite way when u press the hotkey on a table not in the stack.

Ever since the latest update, I've been having problems with it not taking a seat. Sometimes I have to click on the R myself. Other times, it doesn't finish, it opens the buy in amount but doesn't complete.

I've never had a problem before and its been happening on a somewhat regular basis since the beta ended, then we were given the extra 2 weeks because of the upgrade, but ever since the last update, its been buggy and it was never buggy before.

Doesn't exactly make me want to buy it, if now that it costs money, its buggy and not as consistent as before.

automatically close tournaments works fine. I'll try another session !

I just realized Stars now marks the cashgame tables you play red and tables where you are in the waiting list purple
Is there any way for tableninja to create something that can mark the Sngs in the lobby you are registered for? Because I usually play up to 14 different buy ins and its so annoying to always double check which one I am registered for and which one I still have to register for and if they are just marked green or whatever it would be much easier

anyone wanna buy this for me, i'll send them $40 on stars?

I think it would be awesome if TN could move a table to specific coordinates, then move the table back to the exact coordinates that it came from. This would be beneficial for people who use multiple stacks or cascade.

Ever since the latest update, I get a message from my antivirus whenever I open TN. It says that it is blocking a high risk program library injection from tableninja.exe. Can this be fixed without unblocking the program?

is there a solution to this problem? I have the exact same problem

PokerStars released 3 software updates on monday and while we've done our best to release quick fixes, a few of the changes Stars made are going to take us a while to handle. Stars changed the appearance of the buy-in pop-up so that it now has a enable auto rebuy on this table checkbox at the bottom. This affects handling the buy-in popups in some cases. Similarly they made a small change that affects the auto-seating.

I know its frustrating and I understand if you don't want to pay for a program that doesn't work 100% of the time. The fact is that PokerStars releases major software updates on a regular basis and when this happens occasionally they will break existing features. We work extremely hard to fix things broken by the updates as quickly as possible, but there is only so much we can do.

Even extremely established programs like HEM have difficulties with PokerStars updates.

Hopefully this makes sense and is understandable. Obviously if you don't feel that the program is worth the money that is completely reasonable and is your choice.

They added this feature in a recent update. I expect they will do the same thing to SnGs in the near future so for now we are not going to work on doing this ourselves. For us it would be a great deal of work whereas for them its like 3 lines of code

This is quickly becoming the most requested feature for the next update Thanks for the feedback I will definitely make this high priority.

This is another problem that I had never heard of until the recent stars update and I do not yet know the cause of it.

Can you try shrinking and then unshrinking the window and seeing if that causes it to refresh. (ie just wiggle the corner a bit). PokerStars uses their own custom tools to refresh tables (not the built in Windows refreshing that almost all other program use) and it can behave very oddly at times. If this fixes things we can might be able to add something that occasionally wiggles the corners of windows.

Thanks

Tarath

I tried this and still don't have mouse inputs. I am still getting a message from my antivirus saying it blocked a high risk program from tableninja.exe. This never happened until the latest update.

Just a quick suggestion, probably easy to implement: Can you make an option for semi-random bet sizing? For example, right now my flop bet % is set to 75% of the pot. What I would prefer is that my flop bet be a random number between 60% and 85% of the pot.

-wm

Hmm, what antivirus program are you running? I have never heard of an anti-virus program trying to block TableNinja before, but I only personally test with Avast and Norton.

Let me know, thanks,

Tarath

This ought to be a pretty easy feature to add, I'll ask PokerStars if this kind of thing is OK with them.

Tarath

Trend Micro anti-virus. It says it blocked a Program Library Injection by tableninja.exe. TN still works (minus mouse inputs), but that message pops up whenever I open TN.

For keyboard hotkeys we use the built in windows hotkey tools. For mouse hotkeys these tools don't exist. My guess is that the low level mouse hook tools that we wrote are causing this warning.

We don't do any kind of dll injections (not that they are bad, we just decided not to take the route) but your AV software is probably just lumping our mouse input reading tools into the same category.

Is there a way in your anti-virus program to just unblock TableNinja? This should fix things. The only reason I can think of that the latest update caused this problem is that you likely had unblocked TableNinja in your anti-virus program before. Then when you installed the update, it recognized that TableNinja had changed, and started re-blocking it.

As I said we've never had any problems with anti-virus programs before (except that OneCare can cause lag), but from what your describing it really sounds like Trend Micro just doesn't like the way we are reading mouse input.

Hope this helps,

Tarath

I agree with this, I use a stacked layout and I manualy move a big pot table to the side, if I could get TN to do this it would be awesome.

I have a killer feature idea (perhaps it has already been suggested): seat hopping! When I'm sitting at a full ring game and the seat just to the left of a whale opens up I want that seat. With the default Stars UI the seat is often taken before I get there. Allow me to double click on the empty seat and move me there!

A while ago when I downloaded tableninja for the first time I was so excited about it I paid for it insta without realizing it was available for free but I never received a code. I found this thread and was going to ask about it but then found out I didnt need a code anyway so I forgot about it. Now it says my trail version is going to expire and I actually need the code but dont have one...I still have the receipt from paypal but it was like 2 months ago, can I still get one?

Also, when I do get a code can I use it on my desktop and laptop or do I have to buy a separate one for each?

Great program by the way.

This is a great idea and was suggested a few weeks ago. As soon as I read the feature request I tried to come up with ways to do this and i just couldn't figure out anything that was possible. Basically we would have to scan the list of tables for a specific table name, this takes HEM several minutes to do (try running the non-server based mode of their tablescanner) by whcih time the seat would likely be taken.

If i am missing something and there is some way to leave your seat without closing the table let me know and then this would be very possible

Thanks for buying, I don't know what could have happened that you did not receive your code, I'm sorry.

You definitely can still get your code and you only need to purchase once to use Tableninja on both your desktop and laptop. Just send me an email at support@alxsoftware.com from the email address you purchased from and mention this post and I will get everything straightened out

Thanks and I'm glad you like the program,

Tarath

New user, really like the product but some questions/problems...

When using the sit and go opener, the poker stars lobby comes to the foreground for the duration it is attempting to register for tournaments. I have tried it 12/16 tabling and when the lobby pops up when I already have say 10 tables running it really slows down my computer as a whole and I can't play any hands until it has finished trying to register me for the required amount of tournaments. Is there a way that the lobby can be constantly minimised until my session is over? Probably a stupidly obvious question to some...sorry in advance

First of all, I appreciate the honest and straight forward reply. I can certainly respect your business practices. I think you've went about your business model in a great way, have an excellent product, give it away for 6 months free, get suggestions, improve, then come out and charge once people are addicted to your product.

However I think it would have been wise to announce ahead of time to people that the free trial will be ending in such a time period. PT3 gives you a 60 day free trial, which I think is the reason why alot more people buy PT3 over HEM even though it costs more, they get people addicted by using it over a time frame. I was in that PT3 boat, I bought it because I was so use to it after 2 months. I tried HEM but you can't get comfortable with something in such a short period.

My point to all of this is I feel like we weren't given much of a warning. Many people are on budgets and your not making it easy for people to PLAN so that they can buy your product. Now I realize that you gave an extra 14 days, but in reality, there were many bugs around it and two weeks is a short period to budget for something.

So all I'm suggesting is maybe offering 2-4 weeks so that your potential customers can have time to adjust to the cost of your program. So its not immediately in your face. By announcing it and giving people time to adjust, is just great customer service and you've already shown that you have a good business model by giving it away for free. Putting off revenue for another 2 weeks isn't going to hurt but it will make a lot of people feel alot better about your product and word of mouth is the best advertising imo.

Just a friendly suggestion.

This. It especially causes a problem, when the set is loading and TN starts back at the top of the lobby and tries to reg me in games I'm already in and comes up with the "you are already regged..." popup.

Anytime I bust a few and TN goes to load some more it basically freezes everything til its done and my set gets ****ed cause I start going into my time banks/timing out.

You cannot minimize the lobby while the SnG opener runs, but you can drag it completely off your screen. This is by far the best solution, because this way you avoid the lag that popping up the lobby might cause but since the lobby is off your screen it does not pop up in front of your tables and get in your way.

So just try dragging the lobby way off one side of your screen and see if that helps.

Also, I might recommend decreasing the "Number in list" and increasing the seconds between cycles. This will mean at the start of a session you won't get up to 12/16 tables quite as quickly, but once you get going, TableNinja will still keep you at 12/16 tables for as long as you like and it won't need to work nearly as hard to do so.

Hope this helps

I totally appreciate your feedback. We really tried to provide a lot of warning. I posted almost a month ago (on may 10th) on this thread warning that the beta would end soon and repeated that post several times. We also had the information on our website, again for almost a month, and we've had the application warning people at start up that the program would stop being free for 3 weeks.

At this point, from our perspective, it seems that we have been offering the program for free since December 5th, almost 7 months. Most of our users have been using the program for at least a month or two for free and have had almost a months warning that we would start charging for the program. So to be honest I am a bit surprised that you feel that we haven't provided a reasonable amount of time to try the program for free.

You are definitely right that our goal was to make a great product, let people use it for free, decide they loved it and the buy. That has been our philosophy from the start, and we spent a huge amount of time working on our licensing code so that we could provide a 100% full featured trial that people could use in there normal games rather than some crippled version of the program that no one can really test. We don't want anyone to buy TableNinja who doesn't think its a great program and a great investment in their poker career.

Honestly, I feel like for most of our users in their regular games, TableNinja would pay for itself in a matter of days and is a great investment. Even if you think you can earn an extra $0.10 a day TableNinja will pay for itself in a year. That means TableNinja is a solid investment if you think TableNinja's multi-tabling features allow you to add in a single extra $1 SnG a day with a good ROI.

I understand that anytime something that was free suddenly starts charging you that it is frustrating and I totally appreciate that in the current economic climate everyone is on a really tight budget.

If you feel that we didn't give adequate warning about the beta/trial end, or that you need more time to decide if TableNinja is worth the money for you send me an email at support@alxsoftware.com and maybe we can come up with a solution.

If you are getting this pop-up a lot it means you have TableNinja trying to register you for tournaments far more quickly than the tournaments you play fill up. Try following the advice I gave above to yid3655 and also increasing your "Seconds between cycles" a bunch.

That should help a lot.

Thanks

Tarath