Yes i play Cashgame. I didnt see the "for tournaments"...

But i am pretty sure that in the last version i was using, the "sit back in" button was automaticaly hit in casgames too?!?!

Tarath, do you still think about implementing an option where we can choose to have the "jump table to predefined location" hotkeys always place the table to that destination instead of jumping it to the previous location when you hit that hotkey again?
I play stacked with multiple stacks and use the hotkeys to move the tables to the different stacks according to the table situation and find it very irritating that I have to use the hotkey twice because at first the table jumps to some position where it had been earlier (not to mention that before I can press the hotkey for the second time often another table activates so the hotkey then moves this table, meaning I have to be careful not to mix things up).

The button works sometimes but it often misses the box to click "yes" and I have to manually close the table. Strangely, it used to work fine when I had the StarsPlanner AHK running concurrently, but since the last update I had to kill StarsPlanner and now the tables frequently do not close automatically.

Also, even more strangely, when I use the "close table" feature it often closes the table but then immediately reopens it. If I only have one table open, it happens every single time; the more tables I add, the less likely it is to happen.

-Michael

Just wondering if in the future, you could add a waitlist feature that would join you X number of tables. Also, if you could add a "Remove ALL waitlists" feature, that would be great too - when I get ready to leave all tables (sit out) and then some join and auto post, it's annoying.

EDIT: Is it possible to change the location of the mouse when it jumps to a new table?

Hello, is it possible to turn of the pot betting part until it is fixed for PL games (i only play PLO).

ATM it is really buggy and makes playing difficult. What happens is that everytime the table gets focus it "jumps" the betslider many times to the same value, thus stealing focus for maybe 0.5 sec which actually makies playing kinda hard.

Hard to ecplain but i can capture video if needed =)

Anyway, is it possible to turn off the feature?

EDIT:

I put them all to 0% and it solved the mouse lag issue

I've been having intermittent problems today with the "Automatically Handle Big Blind Annoyances". I think it started when I made a change from Aero to Windows Basic (Win7), in order to make PT3's HUD work. I noticed that it wouldn't select the "Wait for BB" or the "Post BB" buttons, (etc) unless I moved my mouse over that area. I also noticed that it didn't change the bet amount until my mouse was over that table (though I'm not sure if that's normal...

I tried closing all programs except for TN and Stars, and it was still happening. I reset the theme to Aero and tried it, and it seemed to work again. I switched back to Basic and ran the rest of my programs and it was working fine for the rest of the afternoon, and then tonight it wasn't working again.

EDIT: sometimes moving my mouse over the area did not make it select the button, but usually it did.

Hmm, I've never heard of a problem like this before, and I honestly don't think TableNinja can open a table. Is it possible that you have the hotkey assigned to enter or something?

This is a really strange bug so I'm not sure what to suggest. Can you email support@alxsoftware.com with a screen shot of what the close table popup looks like when it is not being closed properly?

Hopefully with that info I can help you.

TableNinjaFT does not yet support pot limit games, TableNinja (for Stars) already supports all game types. There is a "Disable default bets" option on the general tab, or you can also set the percentages to 0 as you figured out

When you are in non-aero the table must be in the foreground for the automatically handle big blind annoyances feature to work, unless you are in the "Tiled" or "NoOverlap" layout, so I think this is working as it is designed to.

Thanks guys,

Tarath

It's not a big change. I could even send u a few bucks for it. It hasn't been asked pro'lly b/c there isn't that much limit player anymore playing 12-16 tables. I know it really be usefull for me and I'm sure others.

Chiren80 (Athene) just a video where he bashes Table Ninja and says he has a better system. He uses a ahk script to tile the tables when they pop up and minimize the table right after you play the hand. Also he uses a bet sequence so he doesn't have to click the mouse (which does take more time) and he is able to fold/call just by using the mouse wheel. Can you guys possibly add these features to Table Ninja?

Heres the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmzzjzfF6qM

Is there an auto-rebuy feature? and can it be customed to say 80BB auto-rebuy when I get stacked?

yes, yes

also curious about the minimizing feature chiren utilizes. please have this in your next update? thanks!

That with auto tiling the table would be sick!

I believe he also uses a feature that auto directs his mouse to a table when it pops up, I think that would save ppl tons of time

I don't know if it's been requested yet but an Auto-Berate hotkey function would be nice.

SOLVED - I needed to upgrade my video card drivers.

Hah that guy is crazy. When I watched it I thought he said he stacks the tables, are you sure they are minimized and not all stacked in the top left? I'm not completely sure I understand why what he does is easier than regular stacking.

I'm also not sure why he thinks the fixed big blind bet hotkeys are better than % pot bets, but you should be able to do the bet sequence with TableNinja reasonably effectively if you like. You also don't have to click the mouse to bet % of the pot with TableNinja if you use the "automatically click bet" option so I don't understand why you need to click to mouse to bet with TableNinja, and it seems the bet sequence would be a lot slower, but maybe I am wrong.

Unfortunately Fold/Call with the mouse wheel while possible, would be unreliable on a wide range of systems. Its the kind of thing you can have on your own custom solution if it works on your machine, but it will not work very reliably across platforms.

Auto rebuy is built into Stars and is completely customizable. In Stars go to Options --> Auto Rebuy Options.

TableNinja has a "jump mouse to table" option on the "Table Control" tab.

Hah, chat hotkeys that type in custom phrases for you have been suggested

Great, glad to hear that's been resolved

Thanks guys.

Tarath

tarath,

i dont believe my question was addressed. chirens software does the following:

- tiles the tables
- when he makes an action on a table, it minimizes, reappears
- when the table requires action, it reappears

i feel like this could be more effective than color-coding tables that need attention. is there any way you can do this?

thanks in advance

Hi Clayton,

Sorry I combined my response to your post into my response to the link with the video. I am not sure he is minimizing tables, are you sure they are not in a stack in the top left?

Regardless this is certainly something that would be easy to implement, but I would be curious to get some input from stackers about what advantages this play-style has over stacking. It seems that you only get to watch the table while you are making a decision (like stacking) and then it disappears (like stacking) except that it has the downside that you have other tables popping up and distracting you. Further more it removes the advantages the "set table aside" hotkeys give stackers by removing your ability to watch an important hand play out.

It certainly looks cooler in a video than stacking though I just want to be clear on what the advantages are so that we can design the system optimally and/or improve it if we decide to implement such a thing.

Tarath

Hi tarath,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what it means to stack. Does stack mean have tables overlapping each other in the same space?

Because it seems what chiren is doing is not stacking. His setup looks to be tiled, difference being the table is minimized when action isnt required.

Not a big issue but slightly annoying. When i am stacking and sit out, when i come back table ninja doesn't handle the BB any more. For whatever reason after i come back and open up new tables it works fine.

Sorry I am not explaining my question very well. I think you're description of what his thing is doing is accurate except for one question. Are the tables actually being minimized, or are they being put in the back of a stack in the top left?

He says in the video that his tables are stacked so I am just trying to figure out exactly how it works.

Then my other question is as a player, what does having tables that are waiting for action tiled do for you that makes it better than regular stacking? That is, is being able to see tables that need action actually of value if you are going to make a decision on them one at a time.

I know people like regular tiling because it offers an advantage in that you can watch the action, even when it is not your turn. You get to pick up on timing tells and all sort of information that you miss when stacking. When you are stacking you can only watch the action when it is your turn which is a major drawback of stacking.

However, his mechanism is like stacking. You can only watch the action when it is your turn. You do not get to see how long it took your opponent to bet, or see any of the other players actions unfold so it seems like you get none of the advantages that regular tiling offers. Having the tables where it is your turn sitting there waiting visibly doesn't seem to add anything to me because no action is going on. the tables are just sitting there waiting for you to act, and then as soon as you act they disappear again. You can view multiple tables at once (like tiling) but only when they are sitting there waiting for you to act, so you actually cannot watch any of the hand. So it seems (to me) that you get no benefit over regular old stacking. You guys obviously feel differently so my guess is that I am completely wrong and that there is a major benefit over regular stacking, I just want to make sure we understand what that benefit is so that we design the feature properly.

If you stack with TableNinja and use the STA hotkeys you can actually move tables out of your stack and then watch ALL the action unfold at that table and pickup on timing tells, etc and then pop them back into your stack as needed. So to me (again I may be wrong) this seems like a superior play style.

Hopefully I am explaining my question clearly here.

This is something we want to improve in the future, but it is the way the feature is designed to work right now. The options for when you sit back in are different because you can post the SB and the BB and currently TableNinja is not designed to handle that case and it certainly would be a good improvement.

Tarath

Hi Tarath,

1) I don't know if he's stacking in the top left or minimizing. can't tell.

2) Regarding benefit over stacking, the only real thing I can think of is the implied progression. Using chiren's setup can make playing poker less monotonous. Personally I cascade tables because I don't care much for tiling and I don't stack because it can be mentally tolling. The best analogy I can think of is this: compare stacking to working an assembly line, and compare chiren's setup to playing the whack-a-mole game. The whack-a-mole setup is more effective at placing a "work being done" feeling in the brain.

Some people may get more overall enjoyment out of mass-multitabling using chiren's setup when stacking or tiling can feel too monotonous.

However I'd like to hear what other people think about this before instituting any kind of software change, naturally.

What are STA hotkeys?

any luck on implementing an option to increase the refresh time for the auto info-tab?

I switched to HEM notes recently because of the refresh being too fast to take notes on stars but now stars have colour notes I want to switch back to stars notes.

I just found out about the TSA hotkey, but getting the correct size is impossible. It randomly spazzs out when I try to adjust the size.

Also, is there a way to make more than 4 locations and use the same key for each location?