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12-08-2009 , 09:01 AM
i duno wtf i was doing with the trial version but its awful. the tables didnt re-size propperly and had some distorted **** around the outside. and once i did an action they didnt go back to the stack, despite following the instructions.

Also, the advanced check fold wasnt working and it kept asking me "are you sure u want to check" and it never did this with table ninja. I guess im a ******.
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12-08-2009 , 09:09 AM
what are the reasons for the tables not dissapearing from the toi stack slot once there is no action on them?

if i can get this to work perfect it would be awesome, definitely gonna buy it.
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12-08-2009 , 09:19 AM
Hey squizzel,

First of all, make sure you have set your hand history directory right:
Set this to '..PokerStars\HandHistory' AND NOT '..PokerStars\HandHistory\Your Username', or it won't work. Also make sure you have set the same fold hotkey/hotbutton in TOI as you have in TableNinja, and both running. TOI doesnt actually fold (it only recognizes folds), so you still need the TableNinja fold hotkey running.

Table resizing problems fix:
TOI does a one-time resize for all tables that are open every time you start the engine ('Run'). It also resizes every new table that you open (when the engine is running). TOI sends a redraw command to PokerStars to redraw the table(s), this redrawing only works when F5RedrawTable is enabled (=1) in the PokerStars user.ini file. If you're experiencing tables not being resized correctly, you should press this button (first close PokerStars), a folder selection window will pop-up where you have to select the right folder. After that, TOI will automaticly add this line to the right file (enabling the F5RedrawTable function). You will get informed if the operation was a success or not. Now you can open PokerStars again, and automatic resizing within TOI should be done correctly.

Folder you have to select (depends):
C:\Users\Your User Name\AppData\Local\PokerStars (if you're using Windows Vista or newer)
C:\Program Files\PokerStars (if you're using Windows XP or older).
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12-08-2009 , 09:21 AM
Nice installer added to the Trial version!

New paying customers will also receive their purchase in a nice installer package.

I will now send out download links to the latest paying customers...
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12-08-2009 , 09:23 AM
Yes..!! Now it works perfect on win7

You need to run as adminstrator..

Thx
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12-08-2009 , 09:32 AM
ok i got it to replace tables now but the lag is insane. it takes like 10 seconds after the hand has finished for the table to be removed back to stack. Causes of this? i have a pretty fast PC also.
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12-08-2009 , 10:02 AM
A minor thing: When installing the Start menu folder there is a space before "Table Of Interest" folder name.
And also you should include a desktop icon as option in the installer.

And maybe you can answer my question from earlier, when in a tournament the SB goes allin and we are in BB and can call or fold is the table taken to the TOI grid?

thanks,
Jaroz
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12-08-2009 , 10:24 AM
Hi Thois,

First of all, program looks great, props to u.

Unfortunately, I keep having one problem when trying the trial version (if this gets fixed, I will buy it for sure)

I'm using TableNinja, with keyboard hotkeys for every action, including fold.


When I use the TN-fold hotkey to fold, and I only have one/two tables in the grid, it works perfectly.

When I use the TN-fold hotkey to fold, and I have more than two tables in the grid (not sure if this is what causes it, but seems that way), sometimes folded tables don't get put back in the stack, thereby filling up the grid rather quickly, since the non-action tables remain. Usually they disappear after the next fold action, but not always.

I'm getting the impression that it's due to switching of "active" table to quickly, before TOI gets the chance to move it back to the stack.
It seems every time a table gets left in the grid after folding, the next table to-act (in the grid) gets popped in and out of the stack really quickly. (similar to when you press "fold"-button in a free-check-situation)

This would explain why it only fails when I've got three or more tables in the grid, because then it happens much more often that another table requires immediate action after the 'fold'-action took place.


This ofcourse makes it unusable for now.

->When I uncheck "popup table when action is required" in Pokerstars software, and manually cycle each table with TableNinja, it works perfectly.

->When I use the mouse to left-click the fold-button, it works perfectly.

The above are ofcourse not solutions, as they make gameplay harder than it is now, while the object of your program is to make it easier

I've set the foldHotbutton in TOI to the same as TN.
I'm using Vista, and pokerstars on TN Tiltbuster theme.
I've tried playing around with the delay-slider, but neither high delay nor low/no delay seems to work. (any idea what std delay should be when using TN?)

I've read all the help stuff on the site, and this entire thread, no solution found.

I hope I've explained it well, and u can help soon, I can't wait to start using it!

Thanks in advance.
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12-08-2009 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaroz007
A minor thing: When installing the Start menu folder there is a space before "Table Of Interest" folder name.
And also you should include a desktop icon as option in the installer.
Thanks! Fixed! Also added uninstall link.

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And maybe you can answer my question from earlier, when in a tournament the SB goes allin and we are in BB and can call or fold is the table taken to the TOI grid?
no
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12-08-2009 , 10:47 AM
Coeckie: Sorry for asking this stupid question, but have to ask to make sure: Have you enabled 'Send to Active' in TOI Options? (You should)

If so, this seems like something is switching the active table, please note that TOI doesnt handle window focussing (unless you open new tables or start the engine), so my first thought is that this is happening outside of TOI, perhaps youre having some setting in TN that does this.

Last remark: I hope you dont use F5 as a hotkey, if so, then thats the problem.
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12-08-2009 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Thois
Coeckie: Sorry for asking this stupid question, but have to ask to make sure: Have you enabled 'Send to Active' in TOI Options? (You should)

If so, this seems like something is switching the active table, please note that TOI doesnt handle window focussing (unless you open new tables or start the engine), so my first thought is that this is happening outside of TOI, perhaps youre having some setting in TN that does this.

Last remark: I hope you dont use F5 as a hotkey, if so, then thats the problem.
Not a stupid question, should have mentioned this in my post, I have it checked indeed, and naturally I don't use F5 as a hotkey.


What I'm guessing too, is that it's a Tableninja setting, but I've tried changing as much settings as I know, and doesn't work.

One setting, I seem to remember, did work, was when I chose (in TN) the table targetted to be the table "under mouse" and checked the "move mouse to table" option. But this is far from ideal since I won't be able to use my mouse for any other programs while playing and this is prone to misclicks.


Do you have any idea which setting this could be, and/or what I should change?


Or any other TableNinja users who have had this problem?
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12-08-2009 , 11:24 AM
i gave this software a shot -- but it's fail.

my toi grid is 9 tables. at most my grid was filled to 7 tables, yet somehow i still had a bunch of windows on my taskbar flashing. they were tables in the stack that either were sitting out or waiting for action with time clicked.

i use windows 7. i put 3 hours of work going through all the options and learning about the software. it's still beta imo. way too buggy/glitchy.

back to stacking with TN for me. will check back in the future.
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12-08-2009 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SHE FAKES IT
my toi grid is 9 tables. at most my grid was filled to 7 tables, yet somehow i still had a bunch of windows on my taskbar flashing. they were tables in the stack that either were sitting out or waiting for action with time clicked.
Not sure what caused that, that problem is new to me. Please note:

1) When you change Tables Horz. or Tables Vert. you need to press the 'Set TOI Grid' button first in order to apply your grid changes. Simply changing their values and not clicking the button keeps the old settings.

2) Wait for BB/Post BB situations are not Tables Of Interest, they stay in the Stack.

I think you overlooked one of these points, because Im pretty sure I've got the main engine functions running flawlessly/bugless (as that was my top priority during coding process).

Last edited by Thois; 12-08-2009 at 12:00 PM.
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12-08-2009 , 12:03 PM
Although it seems it does what it should do, it completely messes up my mousejump...which for me makes it unusable. It now becomes a tradeoff between eyemovement vs. handmovement. And im not willing to go back to manual.
Also i dont see any value in the stack being visible, other then sitting in and all.
Which correlates with the mousejump which tends to jump to the stack.
Maybe the stack being a pre-flop stack could solve all this ?
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12-08-2009 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Thois
Not sure what caused that, that problem is new to me. Please note:

1) When you change Tables Horz. or Tables Vert. you need to press the 'Set TOI Grid' button first in order to apply your grid changes. Simply changing their values and not clicking the button keeps the old settings.

2) Wait for BB/Post BB situations are not Tables Of Interest, they stay in the Stack.

I think you overlooked one of these points, because Im pretty sure I've got the main engine functions running flawlessly/bugless (as that was my top priority during coding process).
TN handles all of my blinds. It wasn't that.

It may have been #1 because I changed from 3x2 to 3x3 when I hooked up my second monitor.

Will give it another shot.

EDIT: just played another 200 hands. i think it was #1. however, not all of my tables are going back to the stack when i fold. i tried using my hotkey and clicking fold with the mouse. for whatever reason, some tables still stay on the grid and won't return to the stack. this takes up valuable grid space until i fold the next hand. my fold delay is set to 700. what is causing this?

Last edited by SHE FAKES IT; 12-08-2009 at 12:29 PM.
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12-08-2009 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SHE FAKES IT

however, not all of my tables are going back to the stack when i fold. i tried using my hotkey and clicking fold with the mouse. for whatever reason, some tables still stay on the grid and won't return to the stack. this takes up valuable grid space until i fold the next hand. my fold delay is set to 700. what is causing this?
+1

I dont use any hotkeys though. You usually just have to wait for the next hand on that table, fold that and it will return to stack, but yeah its not working every time. Possible reasons?
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12-08-2009 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SHE FAKES IT
EDIT: just played another 200 hands. i think it was #1.
Im glad thats solved, I was worried a bit.

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however, not all of my tables are going back to the stack when i fold. i tried using my hotkey and clicking fold with the mouse. for whatever reason, some tables still stay on the grid and won't return to the stack. this takes up valuable grid space until i fold the next hand. my fold delay is set to 700. what is causing this?
Left mouseclick folds not working is new to me, Hotkeys folds not working is usually solved by increasing the delay slider. So this is strange... When you try a second time (same hand) they do work? I need to know this so I can determine if its a fold detection problem, or a table status recognition problem.

Last edited by Thois; 12-08-2009 at 12:58 PM.
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12-08-2009 , 01:02 PM
When I fold the next hand that comes up at the table it seems to go back to the stack. Might be to do with timing out?
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12-08-2009 , 01:30 PM
need a 'Jump Mouse to table' function.

if u use this function of tableninja/StarsAssistant , the mouse cursor will bring to stack slot area, TOI move your table position but it doesnt move mouse cursor too!
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12-08-2009 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Thois
Left mouseclick folds not working is new to me, Hotkeys folds not working is usually solved by increasing the delay slider. So this is strange... When you try a second time (same hand) they do work? I need to know this so I can determine if its a fold detection problem, or a table status recognition problem.
it will stay on the grid until i fold the next hand. i've never had it stay on the grid more then two hands in a row. it usually fails once and is corrected on the next fold. it's seems minor, but it makes things chaotic when i have 20 tables going.
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12-08-2009 , 01:44 PM
Its a bit weird because you and ichbin seem to be the only people who have this problem. Please try to send a second (third/fourth) fold command to the table when it stays in Grid (doesnt matter if there is no fold button). Are those ignored as well (until the next hand)?
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12-08-2009 , 01:48 PM
I don't think I got a clear answer on this question from earlier. While your site says that you will add the "Option to only move tables to the TOI Grid when VP$IP at first action", which should make a SB all-in vs your BB call become a TOI, will we have an option to have the current TOI functionality plus the VPIP functionality combined? (So, all bet slider tables + VPIP tables become TOI)

Having this functionality should be enough for me to purchase it, and would make it much more usable for tournaments/SNGs.

Thanks.
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12-08-2009 , 01:49 PM
Im not using any hot keys. I fold, hand goes and table stays. Need to wait for a new hand on the table before you get another chance to fold it.

I dont get how I cansend another fold command with no fold button?
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12-08-2009 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ichbin
Im not using any hot keys. I fold, hand goes and table stays. Need to wait for a new hand on the table before you get another chance to fold it.

I dont get how I cansend another fold command with no fold button?
OK but did you try clicking at the location where the fold button normally is after that (even though there is no button) (during the same hand). Its important for me to know what happends then.
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12-08-2009 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyrrad
(So, all bet slider tables + VPIP tables become TOI)
Yes, this will be the case,
But please don't buy yet, wait until I've added it, I can not handle the pressure of expecations.
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