not yet..

I used earlier versions of stack and tile and just updated and noticed that its popping out my tables into the grid when the action is many players away from me as opposed to when the action is facing me. If I click fold it just checks the box and then moves into home the slot and back out again. Anyway to fix this? Thanks.

this is a resizing issue i beleive

i had this happening wtih hyper simple at 563x??? res

the program is confusing the preact labels for the fold call raise buttons

ps greg unfortunately the label that was causing the table to pop out cant be modded

so unless you take a swing at making rush-like functionality work i dont think its dooable with the prev version and a a custom theme

Have some issues with just pure stacking (never tile setting)

- SaT seems to work fine on Pokerstars and iPoker for a smaller number of tables e.g. 8-10. Above that I find all sorts of erratic behaviour. Tables start not popping up or the wrong one pops up. e.g. when u select a table that requires no action the urgent table normally gets put on top. I've had cases where SaT thinks a table (which requires no action) is urgent and keeps popping it back on top. I think the solution for this is just to click on Fold + Stack hotkey on the table. But this is no good if I am involved in the hand and don't want to prefold.

At first I thought this was a cpu usage problem as iPoker's client is very cpu intensive but it seems to happen with Pokerstars too. Like I said its fine for a lower number of tables.

Wonder if anyone finds the same thing?

- iPoker has no option to disable the client's built in urgent table pop up so sometimes there is confusion with SaT's engine. What I would like to do is just to use iPoker's engine to popup tables but use SaT's scan on demand from a keypress. Sometimes tables still get lost and a manual scan would find the rogue tables.

Cheers

try removing the site and re-including it again


damn. well youll have to wait until i introduce the functionality, which may not be so soon the way things are currently going. i've gone back to playing poker, made a lot this past week so i dont know why i bother with this heh


you could set up just a 'stack' hotkey instead of 'fold+stack' and use that as a workaround for those particular tables.

also, if you are on Win Vista or 7, you could try using Aero theme in windows and use ScanMode=DWM in SaT. this would help cpu usage probably. high cpu is a result of SaT scanning the tables for action required


this might confuse SaT as well and causing the above problem. maybe as the iPoker client is popping up its own table, SaT tries to do it too, but grabs a diff table instead. i'm not sure.

but theres no real way to do an on-demand scan. when you press start, the engine runs in a loop, determined every 'engine_delay' milliseconds in advanced options

well im glad you crushed nonetheless

it would be nice if fold was delayed a few seconds if the timer is full. I end up insta folding all the time which is very bad and im debating on whether or not this is worth using

could you make the scroll wheel hot key move tables to the bottom of stack only when your hovering over the 2 stacks? if you have scroll hot keyed to do this it dosent work for anything but SaT

good work so far

hey greg,

how is the automatic stack after a hand is over feature? you remember? thanks for the reply!

if what timer is full?


Move Table to Bottom hotkey should work on any table that SaT is monitoring. what do you want it to do?


i do remember, its next up on the to-do list. currently i havent done any work on SaT because i'm busy playing poker, which is 10000000000x more profitable

You should be working on SaT so poker be 10000000000x more profitable for meeeeee!!

Kidding aside, fair play Greg and cheers for what you've done so far.

the poker sites timer for making your action. If no time has ran off fold should be delayed for 5-10 sec.



i want it to only work when your hovering over the new stack or stack because right now it will disable the wheel scroll for everything including the bet slider

thanks

doubt this is gonna be possible


try using the ~ prefix for the hotkey. such as "~WheelUp" or whatever it is, this should enable the hotkey in other apps

the prefix work but i guess the delayed fold cant be done

Hi Greg..

Just have a question to do with using SaT with iPoker. Like I said before iPoker likes to steal focus and pop up urgent tables using its own engine.

Let's say I am playing 4 tables and I have to act on them in this order 1,2,3,4

Assume action is on table 1. I click fold on table 1 and table 2 pops up. Is it possible that I can click fold on table 2 as SaT is scanning the tables? So table 3 comes up due to iPoker's engine whilst SaT now thinks its table 2 to act but doesn't realise that I have already clicked the fold button. So SaT now brings up table 2 to the front.

Assuming this is possible what happens now? There is no action on table 2 and the fold button doesn't exist obviously. Does SaT just wait there until a stack action hotkey has happened? Or does it scan at the next interval or even check that the top table actually does require action?

I know this is a bit long winded but I hope I made some sense. I *think* this has been happening on my tables as I add more tables and the CPU gets hit harder. There is more lag and SaT gets wrong much more frequently. If what I said is correct then maybe SaT shouldn't sit waiting for the stack hotkey to be hit but to carry on scanning and checking that the top table is indeed requiring action.

Sorry for the long post. Cheers

stack action hotkey is only for table movement. next scan if the fold button is no longer visible, then the table will no longer require action or pop up.

this can be verified by the common problem whereby tables re-popout to grid after a fold+stack hotkey. the problem there is that the fold button color isnt grabbed correctly during site setup. so, user presses fold+stack, fold is correctly clicked, but SaT still pops the table back to grid thinking it requires action, because probably the color that was grabbed was when the fold button WASNT visible.

if youre on vista/7, please use Aero theme and use ScanMode=DWM and tell me if that fixes the lag

Ok, when I only play a few tables there is no problem. Only when it comes to 12+ I start getting very annoying problems. As it works fine on fewer tables we can assume the fold button was grabbed correctly?

Funnily enough, when I fold and stack tables sometimes, they don't pop back to the grid but they pop back to the top of the stack (I have VPIP mode on) and stays there. So does this mean the fold button WASN'T captured correctly? If so why no problem for fewer tables but problem for more.

However, this is starting to make more sense now. SaT acts more and more like it can't detect the fold button correctly.

if youre on vista/7, please use Aero theme and use ScanMode=DWM and tell me if that fixes the lag[/QUOTE]

Already using DWM with Aero on Win 7.

Cheers

change nothing but Tile Setting = preflop, click save, and tell me what happens. this should determine whether fold button is working properly

Ok I tried using the preflop setting for 16 tables which would normally give me problems. I used a tile setting of 4 tables with slot 1 being the stack. I then changed the hotkeys to fold+stack, call+stack and bet+stack. This was so that the tables didn't remain in the grid and stop others from coming through.

This worked flawlessly. Every single table that required action came through. Didn't miss a single one. HOWEVER, I did notice that in the stack the tables didn't really seem to be behaving themselves. You could see after a stack the table would come back up to the top as I had experienced before. But as I wasn't using the stack to act anymore it didn't affect me.

Anyway, just to confirm I tried my usual VPIP and never settings and the same thing happened as before. Tables were seemingly coming to the top for no reason and blocking others off and timing me out.

Even if this doesn't get fully resolved I am happy that I have learnt a new stacking and tiling method which I actually quite like. Action + Stack seems very useful and interesting. Only problem is tables flashing around everywhere.

hrmm, tables are supposed to come to the top of the stack in VPIP and never modes, but only when they require action. ill look into the code some more

yeah betweaver i think and someone else requested this a while ago, so i added those hotkeys. glad it works

I'm glad I found the problems I reported because it led me onto this new SaT method. I absolutely love it and I can play 16 tables on a crappy site like iPoker without tilting or missing hands. I recommend everyone who's never tried this method to give it a go. I don't think I'll go back to previous methods ever again.

Summary

Use preflop setting combined with fold+stack, call+stack and bet+stack hotkeys.

This defeats the main problem of stacking (and traditional stacking+tiling) of having tables queuing up behind whilst waiting to act. It is a solution to the problem of stacking+tiling of running out of grid space and also the fact you don't have to keep watching the stack for new hands. It also reduces misclicks in the stack.

The main obvious disadvantage is that you don't see the whole hand play through although you can keep the table in the grid if you wish by clicking the buttons instead of using hotkeys.

Anyway, hope this discovery is as useful for someone as it was for me.

having the option to navigate the grind using the arrow keys would be useful what do you think?

fail

Will this work for ultimatebet?

greg nice

First, thank you for writing this script for us and making it free, great util!

I am using it on betfair (ongame), not using...testing, I've managed to set the .ini file up and everything was OK. But whileplaying it is not always working as it should. Lots of time it happens that clicking Fold does not mean to put the table back in stack and it stays in the grid. I am 100% that clicking is within the "click box" for that button. It seems, thou, that only clicking at Fold button does not work 100% of the time, clicking bet, call works all the time.

I am using Windows 7 with aero and DWM ON, I run SAT on admin mode. Is there anything I can try to make it 100% or its just a bug that I need to live with?