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08-01-2010 , 05:33 AM
I am using StarsCash & found that if I ever opened it up and looked at the settings for any reason during a session, and while SaT is running, the Send table to bottom and Stack table Hotkeys only stop working. When I restart SaT everything is fine.

I fixed the problem by always firing StarsCash up first before a session. But then I found that StarsCash uses the wheelup and wheeldown hotkeys by default to decrease and increase the size of the pot by bb's. These hotkeys I use for SaT. So I deleted them from StarsCash, and all is good now.
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08-01-2010 , 11:59 AM
I'm having constant focus stealing issues. my setup is new tables in slot 2 and stack in slot 1, tile setting never, hotkeys sent to active table.

tables start opening in slot 2. when one wants my input, I stack it and then choose an action. now, after a certain amount of tables are in slot 1, the focus stealing thing starts. I have a table on top of the stack that wants my input and then some other random table pops up in front for like a second (grabbing focus in the process) and then goes away and relinquishes focus to the original table. this has cost me a ton of equity thus far.

I've tried running with and without TableNinja and Hjalper focus steal fixes. Is this normal behavior or am I doing something wrong?
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08-01-2010 , 12:08 PM
sorry, never got to this post
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Originally Posted by r0eKY
im having a problem with mis clicks when i try to fold. When using the fold+stack hotkey i get min raises on new tables that pop up, so it must be hitting the bet button some how.
i just setup UB both Top and Classic views, and it was pressing fold for me. is it always misclicking or only sometimes?

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i dont know if its supposed to but the return to stack hk works for folding. it actually does it alot smoother and i dont get the min raise mis clicks but i do get hands folded on new tables that pop up at the same. im on ub btw
'Stack Table' hotkey should not be clicking any buttons. only moving the table..
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08-01-2010 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajnep
hotkeys sent to active table.
first, this was an old setting and i cant guarantee how realibly it works. let me know if you run into problems.

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tables start opening in slot 2. when one wants my input, I stack it and then choose an action. now, after a certain amount of tables are in slot 1, the focus stealing thing starts. I have a table on top of the stack that wants my input and then some other random table pops up in front for like a second (grabbing focus in the process) and then goes away and relinquishes focus to the original table. this has cost me a ton of equity thus far.

I've tried running with and without TableNinja and Hjalper focus steal fixes. Is this normal behavior or am I doing something wrong?
what site(s) are you playing on? is it only stars? can you try not using TN or HJ at all and see if that fixes it? finally, are you sure this option is off?
http://a.imageshack.us/img651/7624/starsoption.jpg
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08-01-2010 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what site(s) are you playing on? is it only stars? can you try not using TN or HJ at all and see if that fixes it? finally, are you sure this option is off?
http://a.imageshack.us/img651/7624/starsoption.jpg
stars only. if I turn this option off, no table ever comes to the foreground, I hafta click my "cycle to first in line" hotkey for that every time I hear the blip sound.

I'm afraid turning TN/HJ off isn't an option for me, I can't play the amount of tables I do without it.
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08-01-2010 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajnep
stars only. if I turn this option off, no table ever comes to the foreground, I hafta click my "cycle to first in line" hotkey for that every time I hear the blip sound.

I'm afraid turning TN/HJ off isn't an option for me, I can't play the amount of tables I do without it.
are you sure you have SaT running and setup properly? what Tile Setting are you using?

yes, normally when that option is off, no tables will pop up. but SaT scans through the tables and brings the ones that need action to the top of the stack.

and i'm not suggesting that you ditch TN and HJ altogether. just to test to see if we can narrow down the problem.
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08-01-2010 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
are you sure you have SaT running and setup properly? what Tile Setting are you using?

yes, normally when that option is off, no tables will pop up. but SaT scans through the tables and brings the ones that need action to the top of the stack.

and i'm not suggesting that you ditch TN and HJ altogether. just to test to see if we can narrow down the problem.
I am, I press the "manually move table" hotkey and the table gets moved to the first free slot. I press the "stack table" hotkey, the table gets restacked. The summary window lists the correct numbers for active tables. Tile setting is "never".

Maybe I should explain what it is I want to accomplish and you can tell me if this is doable or not. I want all my tables on one pile and I only want certain tables moved to a free slot and stay there. Basically the only thing I want out of SaT is to save me from moving the table manually with a mouse.
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08-01-2010 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajnep
I am, I press the "manually move table" hotkey and the table gets moved to the first free slot. I press the "stack table" hotkey, the table gets restacked. The summary window lists the correct numbers for active tables. Tile setting is "never".

Maybe I should explain what it is I want to accomplish and you can tell me if this is doable or not. I want all my tables on one pile and I only want certain tables moved to a free slot and stay there. Basically the only thing I want out of SaT is to save me from moving the table manually with a mouse.
yes this is certainly do-able. one of the reasons behind the design the way it is, is to accomplish the goal for people who just purely stack, and want a quick way to move important tables to the side

i would suggest you remove pokerstars from SaT and re-include it, and take care to set up the Fold button correctly during include-site-setup. that could be a reason why stars tables arent popping up.

if that doesnt work, you could post your Sat-new.ini file i'll take a look at it. enclose it in [code ] [/ code] tags (no spaces)
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08-01-2010 , 02:26 PM
This looks absolutely brilliant!

Is there another way to find out what the different options are, than to read through this thread - so I can set it up the way I like it?
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08-01-2010 , 02:34 PM
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This looks absolutely brilliant!

Is there another way to find out what the different options are, than to read through this thread - so I can set it up the way I like it?
documentation is really poor at the moment

the main 3 options are the Tile Setting, where tables are moved out of the stack and into the grid. this happens 'Never', on 'Preflop' action, or on 'VPIP' hotkey press

judging by your other thread, if you just want the tables to be resized and moved to whatever slot you choose, follow these steps:

Setup Grid
Configure Grid (you will see your layout, can move some slots to other monitor, etc)
Tile Setting: Never
setup Hotkeys
- Manual Move (this will move tables from stack into gridslot)
Include Sites

press Start, tables will move to New Tables stack, hover mouse over table and press your Manual Move hotkey and it will go into first gridslot. repeat and it will go to second. etc
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08-02-2010 , 11:06 AM
I've been trying this software for a few days, and it was working well until it expired then started again.

The problem now is that when I set everything up, the tables will snap to the grid once they are in the stack slot immediately, and not wait for Preflop action (IE wait till its my turn)

I'm using it with the action network, and the setup for the ini file is as follows:

[settings]

standard_table_width=816
standard_table_height=598

fold_button_x_coord=218
fold_button_y_coord=493

table_class=ActionEXETable
table_exclude_title_text=PayNoRake
table_include_title_text=Hand

use_basic_click=1

The reason this software could potentially be so slick is that the bull**** action software can't delay its actions, ie it pops up a table, then won't wait for response before popping up a 2nd table that requires action. Kind of the like the running stars/tilt thing simultaneously.

Any ideas on why this issue suddenly presented itself? What does the program use to determine PREFLOP action? I'm not seeing the table activating (ie flashing in menu), so I'm not sure why the program thinks its requiring my attention.
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08-02-2010 , 11:10 AM
the software determines tables that require attention by the fold button. assuming the settings you posted are good, its likely you need to remove and re-include the site
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08-02-2010 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
the software determines tables that require attention by the fold button. assuming the settings you posted are good, its likely you need to remove and re-include the site
OK now there is a new issue (thx for quick response to last question)

When I setup the table slots, it is perfect, but when I go to add the site through the 'sites' tab, and select include site, it resizes the table to 816X571 pixels --should be 816X598 the default size--. This makes the 'fold button' in the wrong spot, causing the tables never to pop out...
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08-02-2010 , 03:17 PM
hrmm, that could be a problem

when you Setup Grid, are you using the a poker table to define the grid size?
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08-02-2010 , 04:10 PM
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hrmm, that could be a problem

when you Setup Grid, are you using the a poker table to define the grid size?
Yessir
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08-02-2010 , 04:40 PM
please post your SaT-new.ini file and enclose it in [code ] [/ code] tags (no spaces)
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08-02-2010 , 10:54 PM
Greg,
Just dl'd and tested the program for the first time. I have used Stars hotkeys for years and was using Tilt ninja until the beta expired.
I really like your script, it runs very smoothly and I have a couple suggestions.

Could you please add a hot key option to Sit out/Sit in on all tables??? On Stars hotkeys and tilt ninja I always used ctrl+s to sit out/in on all tables.

Also if a hotkey could be added to move X table to specific grid X that would be wonderful.
Ex: I use a 4 grid setup, all tables full sized and stack all in grid one in the bottom left of one of my monitors. When I need to think and move a table it would be nice to send them to specific grids rather than have to hit the button numerous times to cycle them through my pre-defined slots. So I want to move table X to Grid 3 (top right on my monitor) it would be nice to just hit one key to move it, then hit my Home (hotkey set to put back into stack) key when I'm done and/or action is over on that table.

Hopefully this makes sense. This is for Full Tilt.
Ty,
Dash
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08-02-2010 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dashman

Could you please add a hot key option to Sit out/Sit in on all tables??? On Stars hotkeys and tilt ninja I always used ctrl+s to sit out/in on all tables.
unlikley that i will add this. maybe look into FTCash ahk script?

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Also if a hotkey could be added to move X table to specific grid X that would be wonderful.
Ex: I use a 4 grid setup, all tables full sized and stack all in grid one in the bottom left of one of my monitors. When I need to think and move a table it would be nice to send them to specific grids rather than have to hit the button numerous times to cycle them through my pre-defined slots. So I want to move table X to Grid 3 (top right on my monitor) it would be nice to just hit one key to move it, then hit my Home (hotkey set to put back into stack) key when I'm done and/or action is over on that table.
good suggestion, will add to todo list.
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08-03-2010 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
please post your SaT-new.ini file and enclose it in [code ] [/ code] tags (no spaces)

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[general]
gui_x=1763
gui_y=1264
last_tab=
[settings]
table_width=816
table_height=598
total_slots=3
slot1x=2027
slot1y=574
slot2x=1210
slot2y=575
slot3x=1208
slot3y=1172
stack_slot=1
newtables_slot=3
move_on_street=preflop
[sites]
number_of_sites=0
included_sites=
PayNoRake_executable_path=C:\Program Files\PayNoRake\act.exe
PayNoRake_resized_table_width=816
PayNoRake_resized_table_height=571
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=1
hotkey1action=Fold + Stack table
hotkey1key=~RButton
send_table_under_mouse=1
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08-03-2010 , 10:44 AM
ok, if you are certain that your coordinates in your PayNoRake.ini are correct, then lets try this. i dont know if it will work, but we'll see.

go through Include Site setup, at the end youre saying that it doesn't click Fold, so you click No when it asks. this time, just click Yes anyway and save. then when SaT pops back up just close it out. go to the SaT-new.ini file and change these settings:

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PayNoRake_resized_table_width=816
PayNoRake_resized_table_height=571
to 816x598

then fire back up SaT and see if it works
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08-03-2010 , 12:13 PM
just discovered a pretty big bug, but i dont know how much its actually affected people. it might affect the stack updating while other tables require action

perhaps this caused problems for the mega tablers, dont know

Last edited by greg nice; 08-03-2010 at 12:25 PM.
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08-03-2010 , 04:45 PM
when i add some FTP tables to Stars stack and a table on FTP breaks the stack spazzes out when that table comes to the top of the stack.
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08-03-2010 , 07:45 PM
what does it mean for a table to break? and how does it come to the top of the stack?
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08-04-2010 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what does it mean for a table to break? and how does it come to the top of the stack?
Table breaking means everyone has left and I am the only one left sitting at the table. I don't know how it comes to the top. Maybe it doesn't "come" to the top of the stack, maybe it just ends up on top as a result of the others tiling out of the stack?

edit: I checked the ini file and the FTP fold color html code is a color that I dont have anywhere near the fold buton. It is a brown, and my buttons are blue. PokerStars and other clients' colors are correct in the ini file.

I deleted the site and went through set up again and got the same number. What is strange also is that it works!

Last edited by betweaver; 08-04-2010 at 02:06 AM.
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08-04-2010 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
ok, if you are certain that your coordinates in your PayNoRake.ini are correct, then lets try this. i dont know if it will work, but we'll see.

go through Include Site setup, at the end youre saying that it doesn't click Fold, so you click No when it asks. this time, just click Yes anyway and save. then when SaT pops back up just close it out. go to the SaT-new.ini file and change these settings:

Code:
PayNoRake_resized_table_width=816
PayNoRake_resized_table_height=571
to 816x598

then fire back up SaT and see if it works
I can get the software to fold now without issue, but it doesn't like to pop the tables out anymore. They stay in their stack. I've gone ino the software, and painted the fold button a solid yellow, then tried again with no luck.
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