Is there any good update for bodog/ignition?
I know about the graphic bug, so maybe there's some workaround available, like put the tables instead of stacked but in cascade.
I have a monitor free so I can put the waiting tables on that monitor and then, when a table that require action is triggered, your software can move it.
Do you think it is possible/easily implementable?

Cascading is not sufficient because a table can still end up completely hidden. consider a simple 3 table cascade, if you clicked on table 1, then 3, then table 2 would be completely hidden

from my quick tests, if the table is partially visible, then SAT (and bodog iself) can correctly scan. but if a table ends up completely hidden, then SAT (and bodog itself) cannot scan it

so really any layout which will keep tables partially visible at all times should work. SAT does not enforce the stack to always be locked to the stack slot. if you go to Advanced Options and turn off "Allow dragging out of the stack" on the General tab, then SAT will allow you to drag stack tables wherever you want, while still considering those tables "in the stack"

Can I make it as default? Set 4 tiled slots as my stack or I have to do that everytime?
I'm telling you this because my second monitor isn't actually a real one, I have a dongle that tricks Windows and let it believe I have another monitor while it isn't true. So it would be a pain to set it up every single time

never heard of this. whats the name of the dongle?

and how does it work? is it the same as if the tables were simply "off-screen"? are you certain that SAT can scan the tables when they are on this fake monitor?

I'm using Jurojin and Starscaption without any problem with the same setup I've described above so I guess it will work.

Tables aren't off screen, it's like a monitor connected to the computer but without power

https://www.amazon.com/4K-HDMI-Dummy.../dp/B07FB8GJ1Z

interesting. i've never seen one of these things. and so, any windows or tables on this external dummy monitor, you are of course unable to visually see. but windows will think they are visible and exist on-screen

how do you place slots in those other helper apps if you are unable to see or drag drop? do you just calculate the coordinates manually? does jurojin run into the same issue on bodog?


there would be some technical issues with this, because in SAT, the "stack slot" can hold unlimited amount of tables. so even if i created some way for you to automatically 'spread out' the stack slot into tiles which dont fully overlap, there would be an issue if you tried to stack more tables than you have tiles for

also what if for some reason something happens and a stack table gets stuck and doesnt pop onto your main screen?

just some obstacles popping up in my head as i try to figure out if this workaround is feasible

Juroin has the same issue... And regarding placing tables I just use OBS and grab the other screen, so I can see on my main monitor what happens in the other one


I didn't understand the question properly, but FYI I will be playing only on bodog, so I only playing on 4 tables, so if I manage to put the 4 tiled tabled somewhere by default they should always pop up since they will be always visible

ahh thats a good trick


if you are happy to just play 4 bodog tables completely tiled, then everything should work as far as tables popping up as long as the tiles are never completely covered

but i was under the impression that you wanted to do a Stack and Tile play style, where tables move out of the stack and into the next available grid slot... something like this:

https://imgur.com/CGizjHH

where, in this image, in reality inside SAT there will only be 5 slots, but the tables inside stack slot (slot1) will not be locked into slot1 position, but will be staggered (as slots 1,6,7,8 show in the image) off-screen on your fake monitor. since they are staggered, a portion of the table will always remain visible allowing SAT to scan them, and then when action is required, the table will pop into slots 2,3,4,5 (on your main monitor)

is that what you're looking for?

and the issue i was talking about is that normally, the stack slot can hold unlimited amounts of tables, and so as soon as more than 4 tables were put into the stack in this example, i dont know where tables 5,6,etc would go. and if they went on top of another table it would run into that bodog problem

Yes, but I would have only 2 pop up slots, would it work even on bodog?

i think so. let me see if i can figure this out tomorrow

ok please try this version 2.99.19k

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp...tup-29919k.exe

after install, click File->Current Layout, add this line:

save the file, close out SAT and then reopen

now whenever you move a table to the stack, SAT will cascade the whole stack. this should keep a portion of the table visible at all times. this was a quick build, there are many edge cases that are not accounted for, so please let me know how it works and if you run into any issues

Ty gonna try it out when I return from my end of the year trip

ok please let me know

Does Stack and Tile work well with 888caption / Starscaption / Partycaption? Currently have little bet button overlays and the I just click them and my bet gets automatically sent.

Example (below the timer). I just click one of the sizings and it sends.

Some players use both SAT and the Caption programs together. I don't see any reason why those betting overlays would interfere. Should be no issue

Appreciate it. The little bet boxes "auto send" the bet....and it's not moving the tables into the grid. I'll play with it. I can change my setup to send the bet to the betbox and then click the bet key and the table will move. I have 15 days to figure this out. Should be good.

Thanks! Was using jurojin before....but jurojin doesn't work as well with Party tables.

So if you click those caption buttons, then SAT will not be able to detect those clicks..

However, the tables should move to grid when its your turn to act, if SAT is detecting that correctly. You can confirm by using the menu item for Help->Show Testing Info. See if SAT is showing Action Required = YES, when it becomes your turn.

If instead, you are moving tables to grid "When entering pot", then SAT would either need to detect you pressing one of SAT's Call/Bet hotkeys, or detect a mouse click inside the Call/Bet buttons. I'm guessing this is the setup youre trying to achieve?

If you can be a little more specific then I can help you get set up properly

I got it sorted for now I appreciate your assistance. Have the tables going into the grid on action and set up a "fold and send back to stack" hotkey. Right now everything seems to be going smoothly. Tested a bunch of 2nl tables across a couple of sites today. I like it so far.

ok perfect. and if you want to avoid having to do two actions, you could try setting up SAT's "Bet Pot%" hotkeys as an alternative to those caption overlay buttons. but that would require some memorization

take it slow so you can gain confidence that the software is working as you expect, and then slowly add more tables. if you have any other config questions feel free to ask

does it support betonline?

yes, just choose the appropriate Chico theme that youre using and Include that

In the trial version it seems I need to size the tables before I set up the layout. But then when it's setup and I go to "visualize grid" it shows where the tables will be, but I can't resize them there. Is this available with the full version?

trial doesn't matter for this. each grid layout is defined by a set size for all slots... if you want to change the size of your slots, you need to create a File->New Layout.

Okay, thanks.

So even in the full version you need to do new layout to resize you tables?

yes.. but to be more precise, you are not resizing your tables, you are resizing the slot size. all slots must be the same size.

typically you are not resizing your slots often.. only in the beginning while you are experimenting with how many slots you want in your layout. once you have that, normally you are just grinding. some players use multiple layouts for different slot sizes and you can set up a hotkey to switch between them while playing