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11-22-2022 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
Ok most things are working fine and i have set new Tile layout on my dual monitor 4k and 2k

Adda52 tables are moving to tile properly on both monitor but PB tables are moving only to 4k tile slots and when PB table move to 2k slot it gives warning SAT tries to resize but its not working and want me to ignore

i want some PB tables on 2k so plz help why PB tables not moving there ?

Thanks
if you right click your desktop, and choose Display Settings, what scaling % are you using for each monitor?

if the scaling % is different for each, then that is whats likely causing the problem

you can confirm by using the SAT menu item for Help->Show Testing Info, and confirm that SAT is correctly detecting when ACTION REQUIRED for a PB table. test it on both monitors

if that is the issue, there are some solutions on this page:

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/hel...10-scaling-fix

let me know what you find
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11-23-2022 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
if you right click your desktop, and choose Display Settings, what scaling % are you using for each monitor?

if the scaling % is different for each, then that is whats likely causing the problem

you can confirm by using the SAT menu item for Help->Show Testing Info, and confirm that SAT is correctly detecting when ACTION REQUIRED for a PB table. test it on both monitors

if that is the issue, there are some solutions on this page:

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/hel...10-scaling-fix

let me know what you find
Main monitor is 4k with 150% and other if 2k with 100%

1. I tried step 1 with override DPI but it failed

2. If i take step 2 and scale 4k to 100% all text become too small to see

3. For step 3 if i reduce resolution of 4k to 2k then whats the use of having 4k monitor , i mean all display of 4k monitor will become 2k ?

What i dont understand if adda52 tables are working why there is problem with PB ?
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11-23-2022 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
Main monitor is 4k with 150% and other if 2k with 100%

1. I tried step 1 with override DPI but it failed

2. If i take step 2 and scale 4k to 100% all text become too small to see

3. For step 3 if i reduce resolution of 4k to 2k then whats the use of having 4k monitor , i mean all display of 4k monitor will become 2k ?

1. usually this works in most cases. its unfortunate if it doesnt work for your PB site

2. you could alternatively make the 2k screen 150% to match the 4k, but then text will likely be very large on that screen

3. yes. however you have to consider, if you are using 4k at 150% scaling, then effectively you are only at 2.6k resolution. so you could similarly say "whats the point". 4k at 200% scaling would be the same as 2k at 100%

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What i dont understand if adda52 tables are working why there is problem with PB ?
some sites just handle the scaling different, and it depends on how they code their software. but usually in almost all cases, when a user is using two different scaling on two different screens, you will have to use a solution from that page, and usually the easiest is to use solution #1. so if you dont plan on matching scaling on both screens, then i recommend keeping that turned on for PB and even for adda52


HOWEVER, i just realized one thing i forgot about after seeing your PB custom site profile that you pasted above. since it looks like that site is based on google chrome software, you should do this: Remove the PB site, and then re-Include it again. but this time, before pressing F9, first click the ... button and choose Scan Mode = PW, and then continue to Include the site normally. usually all chrome based sites require PW scan mode, and thats what the adda52 site also uses by default.

try that and let me know if that helps. you can test again using Help->Show Testing Info, and test with the table on both screens
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11-23-2022 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
. but this time, before pressing F9, first click the ... button and choose Scan Mode = PW, and then continue to Include the site normally. usually all chrome based sites require PW scan mode, and thats what the adda52 site also uses by default.

try that and let me know if that helps. you can test again using Help->Show Testing Info, and test with the table on both screens
Click which button and where and how to choose scan mode =PW ?
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11-23-2022 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
Click which button and where and how to choose scan mode =PW ?
click the Sites dropdown list, scroll to the bottom to find your PB custom site, and then click Include Site

while it says "Waiting for F9", there is a small text button link that says "..." which will expose more options, one of which is the Scan Mode option. choose PW, and then click a table and press F9
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11-23-2022 , 02:22 AM
Thanks i did but same issue
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11-23-2022 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
Thanks i did but same issue
damn. well can you try Solution #2 just to test and see if that solves? then at least we know that the scaling is definitely the issue or not
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11-23-2022 , 04:14 AM
I tried step 2 now adda52 tables are flikering

I guess this is because at 4k in 100% adda table open small ( size to tile 12 tables which i dont want) )and it get only bigger when i open 2 or more table and tile from adda app and then if i use F9 to get SAT collect data which it does and after that everything is normal but when i start SAT adda tables start flikering
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11-23-2022 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
1 but there is a hotkey for "Increase Bet" and "Decrease Bet" and you would set them to keynames "WheelUp" or "WheelDown"
Betsize hotkeys with mouse wheel not working for PB

is it because PB by default dont have that function and it has + and - only to increase and decrease
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11-23-2022 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
I tried step 2 now adda52 tables are flikering

I guess this is because at 4k in 100% adda table open small ( size to tile 12 tables which i dont want) )and it get only bigger when i open 2 or more table and tile from adda app and then if i use F9 to get SAT collect data which it does and after that everything is normal but when i start SAT adda tables start flikering
what do you mean by flickering? does SAT give you any error message?



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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
Betsize hotkeys with mouse wheel not working for PB

is it because PB by default dont have that function and it has + and - only to increase and decrease
you mean "Increase Bet" hotkeys right? not "Betsize hotkeys"?

here's how you can fix it:

1. Open your custom PB site file again in this folder:
C:/Program Files/StackAndTile/Sites/
2. Find the standard_table_width/height settings at the top
3. Open a single PB table, and then use SAT's menu for Help->Diagnostic->Resize Window. Input the width/height numbers from your custom site ini file as mentioned above.
4. Then use SaT's menu for Help->Diagnostic->Take screenshot with PW. Wait until its your turn to act and the +/- buttons are visible on the table. Click on the table, then press the hotkey to take the screenshot
5. Then find the screenshot file that you just saved, right click it, and choose "Edit". This will open up the file with MS Paint. Then at the bottom of MS Paint you will see x/y values as you move your mouse around. Find the x/y value in the center of the +/- button and add the numbers to these settings inside your PB custom site file:

Code:
increasebet_x_coord=
increasebet_y_coord=
decreasebet_x_coord=
decreasebet_y_coord=
Then save the custom site file.

6. use File -> Open Layout to go back to your normal SaT layout, and test the "Increase Bet" hotkeys
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11-23-2022 , 12:48 PM
1. I've seen some videos where people's stacks are shown in big blinds rather than chips on Ignition. It looks really natural, like the Ignition client is showing it that way, but my understanding is that this isn't an option in the client, and it's being produced by third party software. Is this accurate in your understanding, and is it a feature of SAT?

2. I see a lot of references and recommendations for Jurojin. There seems to be long-running skepticism of that software, stemming from them offering it free for years now, claiming they are just trying to get the tweaks out before charging. The majority of players seem to be comfortable with it, but it is indeed odd, given the time and work that is put into it, including personalized tech support in some cases, that it's been offered for free for so long. Is this a plausible explanation in your experience?
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11-23-2022 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tradenine
1. I've seen some videos where people's stacks are shown in big blinds rather than chips on Ignition. It looks really natural, like the Ignition client is showing it that way, but my understanding is that this isn't an option in the client, and it's being produced by third party software. Is this accurate in your understanding, and is it a feature of SAT?
if ignition doesn't offer it, then of course there is no other explanation that it must be a third party software. SAT does not handle this

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2. I see a lot of references and recommendations for Jurojin. There seems to be long-running skepticism of that software, stemming from them offering it free for years now, claiming they are just trying to get the tweaks out before charging. The majority of players seem to be comfortable with it, but it is indeed odd, given the time and work that is put into it, including personalized tech support in some cases, that it's been offered for free for so long. Is this a plausible explanation in your experience?
determining whether something is 'plausible' means you have to guess and judge at someones intentions. when a fish makes a bad play, and his explanation is full of bad logic, is his explanation 'plausible'?

why does this matter to you? if you are suspicious about the software, then dont use it. poker players have bankrolls at stake, many players here play for a living, this is their livelihood. you should not take any chances running some software that you do not trust
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11-25-2022 , 02:55 AM
I dont want SAT TO detect adda52 replayer so i put
table_exclude_title_text=**********|Play Online Poker\! Adda52\.com|Hand History Replayer

But it is still detecting and replayer is coming in grid

Also when i leave the adda52 table a msg pop up comes says "Leave site ?" this also comes in grid

Last edited by 5plus5=55; 11-25-2022 at 03:23 AM.
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11-25-2022 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
I dont want SAT TO detect adda52 replayer so i put
table_exclude_title_text=**********|Play Online Poker\! Adda52\.com|Hand History Replayer

But it is still detecting and replayer is coming in grid

Also when i leave the adda52 table a msg pop up comes says "Leave site ?" this also comes in grid
to confirm the title of the replayer window, you can use SAT's menu option for Help->Diagnostic->Get Window Title, sometimes what you see is different than what is really the title according to windows

if it is correct as is, perhaps you didnt save the file, and then completely close and reopen SAT. the custom site settings are imported on the first program launch

however, usually instead of trying to find all of the different windows to exclude (blacklist), what i usually do is to be more specific for which titles to include (whitelist). the internal adda52 site uses a simple include setting of "/" without the quotes, which is the blinds separator slash character. both the replayer and the close table popup probably do not include that / and so the windows would not be detected. so, as long as your PB tables also use the / character then that should work
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11-27-2022 , 03:39 AM
Thanks greg for all the help

Most things are working well

1. Want to know is there a way if we have tile layout and say if 1st slot is empty then grid adjust itself where 2nd slot moves to 1st and 3rd to 2nd and so on

2. I dont know why sometimes table is flickring i.e they are not stable and trying to resize . This happning only sometimes when i open sat after table is already opened

Do we have to open SAT first ?

Great software
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11-27-2022 , 04:25 AM
Also if we have 2 layout how can we switch during game ?
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11-27-2022 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
1. Want to know is there a way if we have tile layout and say if 1st slot is empty then grid adjust itself where 2nd slot moves to 1st and 3rd to 2nd and so on
There is a hotkey that you can set up called "Re-fill grid slots" and that will accomplish this

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2. I dont know why sometimes table is flickring i.e they are not stable and trying to resize . This happning only sometimes when i open sat after table is already opened

Do we have to open SAT first ?
it shouldn't matter whether or not you open SAT first. but yes SAT always needs to make sure a table is a certain size so that it can scan it properly. normally after 5 tries, it will fail and you'll get a big popup message. do all sites have this problem or only a certain one?


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Also if we have 2 layout how can we switch during game ?
yes there is a hotkey you can set up for "Change layout"
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12-02-2022 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice


it shouldn't matter whether or not you open SAT first. but yes SAT always needs to make sure a table is a certain size so that it can scan it properly. normally after 5 tries, it will fail and you'll get a big popup message. do all sites have this problem or only a certain one?
1. On 4k at 125% i have tile layout for adda52 which i have set using SAT F7 function
Now when i open table SAT is trying to resize continuously

But at 150% its working well , can you plz check why its happening

One thing i notice at 125% adda52 default table size is small and it doesnt get bigger , it get bigger only when i open 4 tables and tile them using adda52 tile function .

Now when i get this bigger table size i use SAT F7 and got width and hight

So does this mean we cant get this big size layout of 4 tables on SAT at 125% ?

2.How can we minimize table from grid to taskbar without using ignoring key because everytime we have to minimize we have to use first ignore key and then it get minimize

Thanks

Last edited by 5plus5=55; 12-02-2022 at 12:08 AM. Reason: edit
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12-02-2022 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
1. On 4k at 125% i have tile layout for adda52 which i have set using SAT F7 function
Now when i open table SAT is trying to resize continuously

But at 150% its working well , can you plz check why its happening
Have you re-Included the site? When you change scaling %, that might throw off the site's size proportions, and so Removing and re-Including the site will force SAT to re-grab the appropriate size for that scaling

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Originally Posted by 5plus5=55
One thing i notice at 125% adda52 default table size is small and it doesnt get bigger , it get bigger only when i open 4 tables and tile them using adda52 tile function .

Now when i get this bigger table size i use SAT F7 and got width and hight

So does this mean we cant get this big size layout of 4 tables on SAT at 125% ?
What is this SAT F7 function you are talking about? When creating a File->New Layout?

Usually if a site disallows you to resize a table larger or smaller with your mouse, then that means that SAT will also not be able to resize the table past those limits. The site is just blocking it.

It sounds very strange if the site blocks you from resizing the table larger with your mouse, but then allows itself to size larger when you try to tile 4 tables. But who knows how these sites write their code

But yeah if its not allowing SAT to resize the table to that larger size, there is not much that can be done

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2.How can we minimize table from grid to taskbar without using ignoring key because everytime we have to minimize we have to use first ignore key and then it get minimize
When a table is minimized, SAT is unable to scan its graphics and so its pointless because the table will never pop up again when action is required.

Why are you trying to minimize a table? What are you trying to accomplish? Hide the table? For what? Etc. Then maybe I can suggest an alternative
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12-02-2022 , 03:02 AM
SAT F7 for crating a File > New Layout Yes

So once we do this we have to include the site fresh correct ?

Reason i am trying to minimize tables because when i open table it comes in front but if i dont req currently but may join table later i need to use ignore ket and minimize everytime
so that it remain open without taking window space
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12-02-2022 , 10:50 AM
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So once we do this we have to include the site fresh correct ?
each time you change the scaling %, or change anything graphics related, its always a good idea to Remove and re-Include the site fresh. however, as part of that proccess, SAT will attempt to resize the table and you will see what size the table is going to end up being

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Reason i am trying to minimize tables because when i open table it comes in front but if i dont req currently but may join table later i need to use ignore ket and minimize everytime
so that it remain open without taking window space
ok... but if you did that, when would you decide to join the table later? if the table is minimized you won't be able to see any new players joining so how would you know when to potentially join?
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12-02-2022 , 01:42 PM
Just by keeping table open but not in front to free up space actually its easier to join as lobby remain open where we can see all those unwanted running tables

What actually can help a hotkey which can ignore + minimize
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12-02-2022 , 02:55 PM
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What actually can help a hotkey which can ignore + minimize
ok i just added this option

download this version 2.99.19c

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp...tup-29919c.exe

click File->Current Layout, add this line underneath [settings]:

Code:
[settings]
minimize_after_ignoring=1
save the file, completely close out SAT and reopen, then test the Ignore Table hotkey
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12-03-2022 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
ok i just added this option

download this version 2.99.19c

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp...tup-29919c.exe

click File->Current Layout, add this line underneath [settings]:

Code:
[settings]
minimize_after_ignoring=1
save the file, completely close out SAT and reopen, then test the Ignore Table hotkey
Its working good Thank you very much appreciate a lot

in v3.0 it says better support for high resolution screen whats that ?

for 4k resolution will v3.0 gets better ?

Last edited by 5plus5=55; 12-03-2022 at 01:27 AM. Reason: edit
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12-03-2022 , 03:40 PM
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Its working good Thank you very much appreciate a lot

in v3.0 it says better support for high resolution screen whats that ?

for 4k resolution will v3.0 gets better ?
nah, that just means that the SAT window itself won't be as squished. that version above is not the 'highDPI' version, but the next public release will have this new addition
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