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04-10-2020 , 10:47 AM
Hey,

When I am trying to configure SaT, the menu looks like this https://gyazo.com/af33a1ece27159488b163eea82a59c16 and make it impossible to configure because can't see anything. I can not change size or anything.

How do I proceed please ?

Thank you,
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04-10-2020 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M. DHN
Hey,

When I am trying to configure SaT, the menu looks like this https://gyazo.com/af33a1ece27159488b163eea82a59c16 and make it impossible to configure because can't see anything. I can not change size or anything.

How do I proceed please ?

Thank you,
yeah this problem is because you are on a high resolution monitor and SAT needs to be rebuilt specifically to support that.. this version 2.99.06e should fix it:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...tup-29906e.exe

also, save this following link as well, because you may need to do some of these solutions to get your sites set up properly:

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-10-fix
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04-10-2020 , 06:06 PM
Is there any auto timebank feature like the old days?? I haven't used in a while and I remember there being a timebank for ignition/bodog and now I either cannot find it or it has been removed. Thanks in advance
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04-10-2020 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BananaKendrick
Is there any auto timebank feature like the old days?? I haven't used in a while and I remember there being a timebank for ignition/bodog and now I either cannot find it or it has been removed. Thanks in advance
No there was never an auto timebank feature.. I am looking into if its possible for Bodog specifically.. its on the todo list but not available at the moment
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04-11-2020 , 06:36 AM
Hi,

I would like to use your programm together with party- & Starscaption. Is that possible, i.e if I use them for different tasks (Caption for Layout and Sizings and S&T for Hotkeys and table arrangement) won't there be any interference between the two programs?
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04-11-2020 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by krendipont
Hi,

I would like to use your programm together with party- & Starscaption. Is that possible, i.e if I use them for different tasks (Caption for Layout and Sizings and S&T for Hotkeys and table arrangement) won't there be any interference between the two programs?
Should be possible, I have some players who use both softwares, it would just be up to you to make sure that the configurations don't overlap. For example, you say you want to use Caption for "Layout", but then also say that you want to use SAT for "table arrangement". I don't know exactly what you mean by those two terms, but I would imagine that there would be some conflict there. One feature that SAT lacks is the automatic betsizings, so that may be one of the things you want to leave to Caption. It might be easier to look at it from that perspective, and only enable the things in Caption that SAT cannot provide
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04-11-2020 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Are you sure that SAT is correctly detecting when Action is Required on those other sites?

First thing to do is run this Test for each site:

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/hel...op-incorrectly

Let me know what you find
Ok so now it works perfect also in Party,
Still got some issues with winning network. If my table is pretty small it might be a problem? When I use the hotkey for fold it ticks the "call any" which is very dangerous haha. Thanks in advance!
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04-11-2020 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Try2Trick
Ok so now it works perfect also in Party,
Still got some issues with winning network. If my table is pretty small it might be a problem? When I use the hotkey for fold it ticks the "call any" which is very dangerous haha. Thanks in advance!
Can you click File->Current Layout, and paste me everything? Then I can see your settings and also see how small your WinningPoker tables are
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04-11-2020 , 10:36 PM
[settings]
table_width=503
table_height=389
total_slots=12
slot1x=62
slot1y=0
slot2x=62
slot2y=345
slot3x=62
slot3y=691
slot4x=513
slot4y=0
slot5x=513
slot5y=345
stack_slot=0
newtables_slot=grid
move_to_grid=never
oldtables_duration=5
oldtables_slot=0
scan_mode=DWM
play_mode=tile
slot6x=513
slot6y=691
slot7x=965
slot7y=0
slot8x=965
slot8y=345
slot9x=965
slot9y=691
slot10x=1417
slot10y=0
slot11x=1417
slot11y=345
slot12x=1417
slot12y=691
[general]
show_walkthru=0
gui_x=120
gui_y=496
last_tab=
filename=MAX.ini
is_reloading=0
version=2.99.06
win_ver=10.0.18363
v=fu
v29905_msg=0
dpi=96
[sites]
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_executable_path=C:\ Program Files (x86)\PokerStars.ES\PokerStars.exe
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_resized_table_width =503
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_resized_table_heigh t=375
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_fold_color=0xcdc3b2
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_call_color=0xcdc3b2
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_bet_color=0xcdc3b2
PokerStarsHyperSimple_included_scanmode=DWM
number_of_sites=6
included_sites=PokerStarsHyperSimple,GGNetworkNew, PartyPokerModern,Winamax_Small,888PokerNew_Small,W inningPoker_L
GGNetworkNew_included_executable_path=C:\Users\ori ha\AppData\Roaming\7XL\GGnet.exe
GGNetworkNew_included_resized_table_width=560
GGNetworkNew_included_resized_table_height=439
GGNetworkNew_included_fold_color=0x373aa6
GGNetworkNew_included_call_color=0x313399
GGNetworkNew_included_bet_color=0x36359f
GGNetworkNew_included_scanmode=DWM
PartyPokerModern_included_executable_path=C:\Progr ams\PartyGaming\PartyGaming.exe
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_width=503
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_height=374
PartyPokerModern_included_fold_color=0x545455
PartyPokerModern_included_call_color=0xd07725
PartyPokerModern_included_bet_color=0x317bed
PartyPokerModern_included_scanmode=DWM
Winamax_Small_included_executable_path=C:\Users\or iha\Winamax\Winamax Poker\Winamax Poker.exe
Winamax_Small_included_resized_table_width=503
Winamax_Small_included_resized_table_height=389
Winamax_Small_included_fold_color=0x50360
Winamax_Small_included_call_color=0x50360
Winamax_Small_included_bet_color=0x50360
Winamax_Small_included_scanmode=DWM
888PokerNew_Small_included_executable_path=C:\User s\oriha\AppData\Roaming\Poker\PacificPoker\bin\pok er.exe
888PokerNew_Small_included_resized_table_width=579
888PokerNew_Small_included_resized_table_height=46 1
888PokerNew_Small_included_fold_color=0x3f372b
888PokerNew_Small_included_call_color=0x2e3727
888PokerNew_Small_included_bet_color=0x28323a
888PokerNew_Small_included_playerpanel_color=0xffd 822
888PokerNew_Small_included_scanmode=DWM
WinningPoker_L_included_executable_path=C:\PokerNu ts\PokerNuts.exe
WinningPoker_L_included_resized_table_width=503
WinningPoker_L_included_resized_table_height=389
WinningPoker_L_included_fold_color=0x4747e4
WinningPoker_L_included_call_color=0x4747e4
WinningPoker_L_included_bet_color=0x2222a8
WinningPoker_L_included_scanmode=PW
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=1
hotkey1action=Fold
hotkey1key=~RButton
send_table_under_mouse=1
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04-11-2020 , 10:39 PM
Do you have the "Enable hotkeys for buttons" setting turned off inside WPN?

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/wpnoptions.png

If not, please turn it off, Remove and re-Include the site in SAT, and try again and let me know
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04-11-2020 , 10:44 PM
Yes I do have it already off..
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04-12-2020 , 12:21 AM
in case anyone else was wondering, Try2Trick above needed to change the right click hotkey to not pass the click through to the underlying windows.. apparently WPN shows a felt color popup option when you right click the table.. so "RButton" works fine, but "~RButton" fails
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04-12-2020 , 12:34 AM
Great software guys. If you were wondering (:

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04-13-2020 , 09:55 PM
Can your software convert $ into BB, and auto rebuy in cash game at Bodog/Ignition?
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04-14-2020 , 09:02 PM
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Can your software convert $ into BB, and auto rebuy in cash game at Bodog/Ignition?
No unfortunately it cannot
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04-16-2020 , 10:41 AM
Hey Greg,

I got some problems setting everything up correct. I might have some terms confused. I will try to tell you what I want to try and maybe you can tell me how to set this up. I play 10 tables and I want them all stacked in one slot and when I my action is required I want them to move into the grid and stay there as long as I am in the hand. I visulized the grid with 10 table slots. On the left screen which should be my main playing screen I have the stack slot 2, 3 and 4 in the top line and 5, 6 and 7 in the bottom line. On the right screen the stack slot 1 is in the right upper corner. On the left side is number 10 and underneath are 8 and 9. So basically
10 1 / 2 3 4
9 8 / 5 6 7
I want all tables with no action in slot 1. When I am playing and open a new table I want that table in slot 10. When a table in the stack slot (#1) needs my attention I want this table to fill up the spot from 2 on. So first table where I can decided if I want to raise or call or whatever preflop I want that table to move to slot #2 and stay there until I fold the hand. If in the meantime another table from the slot needs my attention I want that table automatically be moved to slot #3. And so on. If in th meantime I fold on the table on slot #2 this table gets back into the stack in slot #1. The next table that needs action goes into slot #2 since that slot is now free. In case slot 3 is still with a table the next table that needs attention is moving to slot #4.
I just played a little with the settings and for example on one site it is not working at all (888, go figure) and the other is doing at least some of the stuff. As for 888, whats the rule for auto steal focus, does it have to be activated or not on 888, cause it was not. On Stars it was working partially correct. Once I folded a hand on stars the tables would still stay in the grid and not move back into the stack but I just found advanced options and "sent tables to stack at End of Hand" and I guess this might do the trick. So I guess mainly I need some input on how to set up the layout correct and what to do with auto steal focus on those two sites (Stars/888).
Thanks for the help in advance...
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04-16-2020 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
Hey Greg,

I got some problems setting everything up correct. I might have some terms confused. I will try to tell you what I want to try and maybe you can tell me how to set this up. I play 10 tables and I want them all stacked in one slot and when I my action is required I want them to move into the grid and stay there as long as I am in the hand. I visulized the grid with 10 table slots. On the left screen which should be my main playing screen I have the stack slot 2, 3 and 4 in the top line and 5, 6 and 7 in the bottom line. On the right screen the stack slot 1 is in the right upper corner. On the left side is number 10 and underneath are 8 and 9. So basically
10 1 / 2 3 4
9 8 / 5 6 7
I want all tables with no action in slot 1. When I am playing and open a new table I want that table in slot 10. When a table in the stack slot (#1) needs my attention I want this table to fill up the spot from 2 on. So first table where I can decided if I want to raise or call or whatever preflop I want that table to move to slot #2 and stay there until I fold the hand. If in the meantime another table from the slot needs my attention I want that table automatically be moved to slot #3. And so on. If in th meantime I fold on the table on slot #2 this table gets back into the stack in slot #1. The next table that needs action goes into slot #2 since that slot is now free. In case slot 3 is still with a table the next table that needs attention is moving to slot #4.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. SAT should basically work like that right out of the box, with the exception of one setting, where you want to change "New Tables Slot" to slot #10 instead of 'grid'. Other than that, "Move To Grid = When Action Required" should accomplish what you're asking.

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but I just found advanced options and "sent tables to stack at End of Hand" and I guess this might do the trick.
I recommend not using that setting. Its just more overhead for not much benefit. That setting is just for automatically moving the table back to the stack when a hand is over via showdown or via you betting and everyone folds. However, in both of those scenarios, a new hand will be starting in a few seconds, and you'll have another decision soon anyway. So the table is only occupying a slot for a brief period. It also requires you to not use 4 color decks, and also to always sit in the same seat. If you do use that setting, then you'll need to Remove and re-Include your sites to grab more info

By default, SAT will move tables from the grid, back to the stack, when you click Fold with your mouse, or use a "Stack" hotkey such as "Fold+Stack" which is the most common

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I just played a little with the settings and for example on one site it is not working at all (888, go figure) and the other is doing at least some of the stuff. As for 888, whats the rule for auto steal focus, does it have to be activated or not on 888, cause it was not. On Stars it was working partially correct. Once I folded a hand on stars the tables would still stay in the grid and not move back into the stack
You should turn off each site's individual "pop up table when action required" setting inside each site's client options. You can usually find the settings that are needed for each site on the SAT help pages:
https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/supported-sites

If you are noticing that some tables aren't going back to the stack, even when using a "stack" hotkey, then likely there is a configuration problem, and you can test that with the test here:
https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/hel...op-incorrectly
To sum up that page, simply use the menu item for Help->Show Testing Info, and make sure the Action Required line changes from NO to YES to NO, when its your turn to act, and when not. If that is working fine, then you should be good to go. If its failing, such as always saying YES or always saying NO, then you have a problem, and some solutions are listed.

One common issue for that problem, I notice is that you said you have 2 monitors, usually that requires that both monitors use the same scaling % in Windows. Check this page for solutions:
https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-10-fix
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04-16-2020 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Thanks for the thorough explanation. SAT should basically work like that right out of the box, with the exception of one setting, where you want to change "New Tables Slot" to slot #10 instead of 'grid'. Other than that, "Move To Grid = When Action Required" should accomplish what you're asking.
Well...somehow I was expecting 888 to not work at all. Stars works fine but 888 I have issues. I did everything on your help pages for 888. Pop up the game window ist turned off and bet sliders are set like you said. Also I wasnt running stars helper and 888 caption at all to just make sure that it is running without them. First of all all 888 tables stayed at the new table slot and they also would not pop up in front when action is required. So they dont react at all besides getting moved to slot 10/new table slot. Then I used a hotkey for move table to stacked tables slot. At least that did work although I had to push the hotkey many times...it was not working at first. But once the tables were moved to the stacked slot nothing happened there as well. The 888 tables didnt come up front and Stars was working flawless. Is there some sort of log-file I can send.

Edit: I just started some 888 tables again and the hotkey F7/move table to stacked tables slot did work fine...but still the tables wont move and also dont come up front.

Edit2: I just uploaded a pic of my table theme...I am using a table mod I bought. https://imgur.com/a/AufhmHx

Last edited by Messenjupp; 04-16-2020 at 02:52 PM. Reason: Added a pic
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04-16-2020 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
First of all all 888 tables stayed at the new table slot and they also would not pop up in front when action is required. So they dont react at all besides getting moved to slot 10/new table slot. Then I used a hotkey for move table to stacked tables slot. At least that did work although I had to push the hotkey many times...it was not working at first. But once the tables were moved to the stacked slot nothing happened there as well. The 888 tables didnt come up front and Stars was working flawless. Is there some sort of log-file I can send.

Edit: I just started some 888 tables again and the hotkey F7/move table to stacked tables slot did work fine...but still the tables wont move and also dont come up front.

Edit2: I just uploaded a pic of my table theme...I am using a table mod I bought. https://imgur.com/a/AufhmHx
1. Yes you aren't meant to play out of the New Tables slot. You should be moving the tables out of there once you've taken your seat and bought in

2. There is a hotkey for "Stack table", is that what you're using? That hotkey should be moving the tables to Slot #1

3. Did you run the Help->Show Testing Info like I told you? What does it say for the 888 tables? Does it correctly change the Action Required status from NO to YES to NO?
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04-16-2020 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
1. Yes you aren't meant to play out of the New Tables slot. You should be moving the tables out of there once you've taken your seat and bought in

2. There is a hotkey for "Stack table", is that what you're using? That hotkey should be moving the tables to Slot #1

3. Did you run the Help->Show Testing Info like I told you? What does it say for the 888 tables? Does it correctly change the Action Required status from NO to YES to NO?
1. In your first post you told me "where you want to change "New Tables Slot" to slot #10 instead of 'grid'.". Thats what I did. I have 10 tables lots arranged like I told you. Stack slot is 1, new table slot 10 and old tables close and move to grid when action is required. I thought this meant that new tables get into slot 10 until the first hand is over and after that they are moved into slot 1. At least that what happened with the stars tables. For 888 I need hotkey F7 move to stack slot but at least that worked.

2. Yes...I just used that to see if its working and it was. So all good there.

3. I ran the test and the action required status did not change, it was always no. After that I removed the site and tried to add 888 again and know I cant add 888 anymore. The first step when pressing F9 and SaT is resizing the table....well....I get to the second step where I should press F10 and it should fold but yesterday when I added 888 successfully the first time I noticed that SaT was resizing the table a little. A couple of minutes ago when I did it again there was no resizing although I managed to get to the next step, pressing F10 when all 3 action buttons are there....but here SaT fails. It says that it cant find a call button and cant fold. Dont know what to do know cause I cant add 888 anymore and I changed nothing compared to yesterday.
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04-16-2020 , 07:25 PM
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1. In your first post you told me "where you want to change "New Tables Slot" to slot #10 instead of 'grid'.". Thats what I did. I have 10 tables lots arranged like I told you. Stack slot is 1, new table slot 10 and old tables close and move to grid when action is required. I thought this meant that new tables get into slot 10 until the first hand is over and after that they are moved into slot 1. At least that what happened with the stars tables. For 888 I need hotkey F7 move to stack slot but at least that worked.
Yes you can play out of the New Tables slot, but its not recommended


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3. I ran the test and the action required status did not change, it was always no. After that I removed the site and tried to add 888 again and know I cant add 888 anymore. The first step when pressing F9 and SaT is resizing the table....well....I get to the second step where I should press F10 and it should fold but yesterday when I added 888 successfully the first time I noticed that SaT was resizing the table a little. A couple of minutes ago when I did it again there was no resizing although I managed to get to the next step, pressing F10 when all 3 action buttons are there....but here SaT fails. It says that it cant find a call button and cant fold. Dont know what to do know cause I cant add 888 anymore and I changed nothing compared to yesterday.
Ok so if Action Required was always showing NO, then that was def the problem you were having with 888. I checked some of the logs and it looked like when you were pressing F10, you were sitting out and the checkbox was there for "Wait for BB". If this is incorrect, and you were indeed pressing F10 at the correct time, then that means that SAT is not able to scan the tables correctly.

What version of Windows are you on? I hope not win7. And how many monitors? Can you also click File->Current Layout, and paste me everything?
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04-17-2020 , 02:16 AM
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Yes you can play out of the New Tables slot, but its not recommended
So what is recommended for new tables? Just add them to the stack slot?

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Ok so if Action Required was always showing NO, then that was def the problem you were having with 888. I checked some of the logs and it looked like when you were pressing F10, you were sitting out and the checkbox was there for "Wait for BB". If this is incorrect, and you were indeed pressing F10 at the correct time, then that means that SAT is not able to scan the tables correctly.

What version of Windows are you on? I hope not win7. And how many monitors? Can you also click File->Current Layout, and paste me everything?
It is indeed my old desktop computer with Windows 7 Enterprise. Is this a big problem?
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04-17-2020 , 09:41 AM
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So what is recommended for new tables? Just add them to the stack slot?
Typically I recommend to use 'grid' which will move them to the next available grid slot. Then you can sit down, buy in, and then either play the table there or move the table back to the stack slot.

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It is indeed my old desktop computer with Windows 7 Enterprise. Is this a big problem?
Ahh. So yeah that's what I feared. Win7 has been causing problems for more and more sites lately, in that SAT isn't able to scan the tables correctly. You can test this yourself by using the SAT menu item for Help->Diagnostic->Take screenshot with GDIP. You can take a screenshot of the table, and you'll think its working. However, if you wait until the hand changes, or you get new cards, or you go from flop to turn, and then try to take ANOTHER screenshot, you would expect the screenshots to be different obviously, and the new screenshot to reflect the new table state, however on win7, you end up getting the same screenshot both (all) times. Its like win7 won't update the table in memory or something, and so SAT cannot see the changes as the table changes.

I'm guessing this is the issue you're facing. I've tried many many things to try to get around this problem, and I've found no solution yet, and I've simply had to recommend customers to upgrade to win10. Microsoft doesn't even support win7 anymore, they ended support this past January, and so win7 even poses security risks for users, so you really should be considering upgrading anyway.
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04-17-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Typically I recommend to use 'grid' which will move them to the next available grid slot. Then you can sit down, buy in, and then either play the table there or move the table back to the stack slot.


Ahh. So yeah that's what I feared. Win7 has been causing problems for more and more sites lately, in that SAT isn't able to scan the tables correctly. You can test this yourself by using the SAT menu item for Help->Diagnostic->Take screenshot with GDIP. You can take a screenshot of the table, and you'll think its working. However, if you wait until the hand changes, or you get new cards, or you go from flop to turn, and then try to take ANOTHER screenshot, you would expect the screenshots to be different obviously, and the new screenshot to reflect the new table state, however on win7, you end up getting the same screenshot both (all) times. Its like win7 won't update the table in memory or something, and so SAT cannot see the changes as the table changes.

I'm guessing this is the issue you're facing. I've tried many many things to try to get around this problem, and I've found no solution yet, and I've simply had to recommend customers to upgrade to win10. Microsoft doesn't even support win7 anymore, they ended support this past January, and so win7 even poses security risks for users, so you really should be considering upgrading anyway.
I know about Windows 7 not getting any updates anymore...I am just hesitant cause the computer is so old but still runs fine...I got a new laptop...maybe I will give it a shot there. I will let you know over the next two days...thanks so far, great support.
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04-17-2020 , 09:44 PM
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I know about Windows 7 not getting any updates anymore...I am just hesitant cause the computer is so old but still runs fine...I got a new laptop...maybe I will give it a shot there. I will let you know over the next two days...thanks so far, great support.
Ok yeah let me know. I think it should work much better with the Win10 machine and I'll be able to help you further if not
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